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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 02:51 PM

Was listening to Beningo and Roberst today (they were on instead of Boomer and Carton) and they has Peter Schwartz call in from OTAs. He said some very interesting stuff:

-On QB controversy: "It's totally made up. It's something the media is creating. It would take nothing short of a Sanchez injury for Tebow to start at QB... and some feel that if something should happen to Sanchez, McIlroy would get the nod. There's absolutely no one within the organization that thinks that Sanchez will not start."

-On Revis: "I keep flopping on this and if you were to ask me last week, I would say that he'd be in camp... but I spoke to him yesterday and he's adamant that a new deal be done. He feels as if the Jets made the 'band aid deal' two years ago with a promise to rework the contract this summer. Unfortunately, I think we'll see a third hold out from Revis". He went on to say that Revis "doesn't care what the fans think. He says 'it's my contract situation and it doesn't involve anyone else'".

-Stephen Hill has an injured hammy and does not practice. He does individual drills.

-Rex is talking up Ducasse, saying he's in the best shape and most improved thus far. Schwartz isn't buying it.

-Coples looks very good so far.

-Word around the league is that in 3 year, our 3rd pick (Davis) is going to be the best player we got in this draft.

-Ellis started his jail sentence today.
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 02:53 PM

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-Word around the league is that in 3 year, our 3rd pick (Davis) is going to be the best player we got in this draft.


I don't know if that's either very good, or very bad
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 02:58 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 15 June 2012 - 12:53 PM, said:

I don't know if that's either very good, or very bad


we all know it'll be stephen hill :saythat:
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 03:07 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 15 June 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

I don't know if that's either very good, or very bad


They meant that as a positive. They're saying that he has tremendous athletecism, is not as raw as people said and he's a natural leader.
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 03:30 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 15 June 2012 - 01:07 PM, said:

They meant that as a positive. They're saying that he has tremendous athletecism, is not as raw as people said and he's a natural leader.


I think we drafted for athleticism. we got the most athletic DE, LBer, and WR in the draft with our 1st 3 picks
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 03:40 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 15 June 2012 - 04:30 PM, said:

I think we drafted for athleticism. we got the most athletic DE, LBer, and WR in the draft with our 1st 3 picks


No I think we drafted BPA.
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 04:09 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 15 June 2012 - 01:40 PM, said:

No I think we drafted BPA.


I could agree with coples and hill but not davis. he was projected as a 4th or 5th rounder but since we had none of those we took him with a 3rd. most would consider him a reach.
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 06:34 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 15 June 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:

-Rex is talking up Ducasse, saying he's in the best shape and most improved thus far. Schwartz isn't buying it.



So basically Rex is saying we shouldn't believe our lying eyes. I'll be very surprised if he's anywhere where he needs to be to be a starter.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 15 June 2012 - 07:49 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 15 June 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

I could agree with coples and hill but not davis. he was projected as a 4th or 5th rounder but since we had none of those we took him with a 3rd. most would consider him a reach.


Teams boards are different, we have no idea where the Jets ranked him. Not a lot of people knew about him because he didn't play at a top school, doesn't mean he won't be great. The Jets obviously loved him.



Also, its been obvious that Sanchez is a better QB than Tebow and will be the teams starter. If Sanchez goes down, I doubt McElroy would start, it would be Tebow but as a passer he can't compare with Sanchez.

I keep hearing how impressive Quinton Coples has been, but one thing to remember is that in OTAs and minicamps, the OL can't do much vs the DL.

This was on Cimini's chat today

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What is your prediction for Quinton Coples career in NY? Will he live up to his first round status? Or be another flop like Vernon Gholston?
Rich Cimini (1:41 PM)

I can guarantee this: he won't be another Gholston. He's already done more than Gholston ever did. Will he be great? I don't know. He has the physical tools. In preseason, we'll find out about the passion.



I hope he ends up being a stud, I would be happy to be wrong.
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Posted 16 June 2012 - 08:28 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 15 June 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

I could agree with coples and hill but not davis. he was projected as a 4th or 5th rounder but since we had none of those we took him with a 3rd. most would consider him a reach.


You still really don't understand how the board works bud.
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Posted 16 June 2012 - 10:24 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 16 June 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

You still really don't understand how the board works bud.


Remember our bet pretty boy. You said Davis won't start for the next 2 years, or you'll leave the board. Hows your HBD team doing?
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Posted 16 June 2012 - 10:45 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 16 June 2012 - 11:24 AM, said:

Remember our bet pretty boy. You said Davis won't start for the next 2 years, or you'll leave the board. Hows your HBD team doing?


I stand by the Davis thing but I'm definitely happy he's impressing. Still not sure what his position is.

16-9 right now. Just lost a big bat for awhile but we'll survive. My top 2 haven't even pitched that well yet.
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Posted 16 June 2012 - 03:28 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 16 June 2012 - 06:28 AM, said:

You still really don't understand how the board works bud.


teams boards are just fans way of making excuses for bad picks. everyones boards are very similar for the 1st 3 rounds or so
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Posted 16 June 2012 - 03:42 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 16 June 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

teams boards are just fans way of making excuses for bad picks. everyones boards are very similar for the 1st 3 rounds or so


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Posted 18 June 2012 - 01:38 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 16 June 2012 - 04:28 PM, said:

everyones boards are very similar for the 1st 3 rounds or so


Really?
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Posted 18 June 2012 - 02:08 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 June 2012 - 11:38 AM, said:

Really?


Yup pretty much
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Posted 18 June 2012 - 06:49 PM

I think he means first 3 players.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:09 AM

View PostEliteJets, on 18 June 2012 - 04:05 PM, said:

you dont really believe that 115 do you?


Yup. the reason the draft differs is alot of teams reach for their biggest needs instead of taking the BPA, and then will try and say the pick was their BPA. I'm not saying the players are 100% the same but i'd say within 3-4 spots of each other. no teams had luck as a 2nd rounder. none of them had him past 2 on their board. most scouts see the same things in the same players
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:23 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 15 June 2012 - 03:51 PM, said:

Revis "doesn't care what the fans think. He says 'it's my contract situation and it doesn't involve anyone else'".


So f***ing disappointing. f***ing guy has the chance to be loved by this fan base and he just doesn't care.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 01:52 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 19 June 2012 - 10:09 AM, said:

Yup. the reason the draft differs is alot of teams reach for their biggest needs instead of taking the BPA, and then will try and say the pick was their BPA. I'm not saying the players are 100% the same but i'd say within 3-4 spots of each other. no teams had luck as a 2nd rounder. none of them had him past 2 on their board. most scouts see the same things in the same players


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