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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 05:35 PM



Good evening Jets fans! Here's my Season Preview for you guys!

Enjoy!

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:21 PM

So you have the Jets finishing LAST in the AFC East? Not gunna happen lol. No way Bills and Dolphins will be better than us this year. It will be between Jets and Pats again like always to see who comes in 1st.
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 07:34 PM

4th in the AFC East? Seriously? For the most part I like you bro but you just lost me. Maybe you had an off day, lost some sleep, went out drinking beforehand, i dont know. But how you can legitametly say that the Fish(dolphins) a team no FA wants to go to, except Ochocinco but he was running out of options, is going to finish above the Jets is beyond lunacy. I mean you could make some kind of arguement that the "qb contraversy" makes the Jets unstable and the let the Bills surpass them since the Bills have been steadily getting better and better each year and now have Mario Williams, but to say the Jets will finish dead last and the floundering fish are going to do better? Comon man, that's not even a good joke . . .
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:00 PM

I honestly think that the Jets & Dolphins are essentially the same ball club..

1. Both have capable but questionable QBs
2. Both have 1 Playmaking WR & TE the rest of the WR corps have question marks
3. Both OLs & DLs are talented
4. Both LB corps are very solid
5. Both secondaries are very good..although a slight edge go to the Jets
7. Both are built to run the ball and play good defense
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Posted 19 June 2012 - 09:16 PM

View PostEmDiggy, on 19 June 2012 - 08:00 PM, said:

I honestly think that the Jets & Dolphins are essentially the same ball club..

1. Both have capable but questionable QBs
2. Both have 1 Playmaking WR & TE the rest of the WR corps have question marks
3. Both OLs & DLs are talented
4. Both LB corps are very solid
5. Both secondaries are very good..although a slight edge go to the Jets
7. Both are built to run the ball and play good defense


One area to correct

1. Our base is going to be a 4-3 this year.

4th? I would bet you a jersey of winners choice we will not finish 4th. 4th!? Is that one of those shock jock things? Trying to get a reaction? Miami is in a full rebuild mode. 4th!? The Bills are well The Bills. We finished 2nd and had a horrid year. 4th!? We secured our safety concerns and added a great LBer prospect and a pass rusher. Our 2 areas of concern last year. 4th!?Are you really comparing the Phins secondary to the Jets? Come on man. Get your fish goggles off. Bad report.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 07:55 AM

View Postazjetfan, on 19 June 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

4th!?Are you really comparing the Phins secondary to the Jets? Come on man. Get your fish goggles off. Bad report.


Saints fans aren't used to paying attention to the secondary. We all know that. Thats why he said a statement like that.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 10:40 AM

View PostEmDiggy, on 19 June 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

I honestly think that the Jets & Dolphins are essentially the same ball club..

1. Both have capable but questionable QBs


Yea right. Even with his down year, there isn't a GM that would take Matt Moore over Sanchez.

View PostEmDiggy, on 19 June 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

2. Both have 1 Playmaking WR & TE the rest of the WR corps have question marks


Ummm... their 1 playmaking WR is Bess who had 537 yard last year. For all his faults, Holmes is light years ahead of Bess. Last year he loafed and still posted better numbers. Who this "playmaking TE" on the Fins is, I don't know. I know they have Fasano... who had a whopping 450 yards last season, and Keller almost doubled that.

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3. Both OLs & DLs are talented
4. Both LB corps are very solid


Even with Wayne Hunter, the Jets OL is head and shoulders above the Fins. They're starting a rookie C who is probably a G.

View PostEmDiggy, on 19 June 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

5. Both secondaries are very good..although a slight edge go to the Jets


Our #2 Cb is better than their #1 and our #1 is Revis. I'd call that more than slight.

View PostEmDiggy, on 19 June 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

7. Both are built to run the ball and play good defense


Who are the Fins going to run the ball with? Bush? He's a scat back who can't stay healthy.
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 12:03 PM

Lets put it like this. From a distance there are some similarities. Both teams don't have bonafide QB's, both will likely run heavy due to that fact. Both will play pretty solid defense so essentially I see the similarities.

However this Jets defense this year (I'm predicting) is going to be stingy. Really stingy. Like 09 stingy. Now IF the Jets got their man in Coples. Maybin looks like a man possessed, putting on serious mass this offseason. I'm telling you this defense is going to be flat out boss. Like top 1-2 in the league. Especially with Rex implementing the 46. I just think that this defense is going to pretty awesome this season and with Mark "God damn" Sanchez in his 4th year as opposed to Gerrard (a yr off and nothing really special to begin with) and with emphasis on the ground and pound and sprinkled in with some Tebow Gadgetry. I think as always it will be.

Pats
Jets
Bills
Fish

Also I disagree about Tebow being starting Talent. He's definitely not a starter in this league or in todays NFL. Once teams figure out the gadgetry like they always do he'll have hell to deal with.

and yo Em. Feeling a lot of Jet heat though my guy. :tongue:
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Posted 20 June 2012 - 02:44 PM

I disagree with a few things.

I don't believe there is this QB controversy, they know who their starting QB is. Mark Sanchez. I disagree that if you have Sanchez you can't run the ball, either QB the offense will be about running the ball more. Even with running the ball, you need to be able to pass. Sanchez gives you a better chance as hes clearly the better passer.


I disagree with the Jets being last in the division. The Dolphins are changing to a fast tempo spread system, so its different than ours. Their WRs have little talent. Their defense isn't as good as ours, their secondary is far from ours. Darrelle Revis and Antonio Cromartie are the best CB tandem in football IMO. If Laron Landry stays healthy, which is a big if, I think he'll be a beast in this defense. Yeremiah Bell has been one of the better SS in the game. Rex Ryan is a better defensive coach than the Dolphins have.

I see this defense as having the "potential" to be the best defense we have had with Rex. I think there is more potential with our pass rushers than we have had. I think Aaron Maybin may have found his game, just one of those guys that needed a new environment, landed with a top defensive coach that utilizes him better. I hope Quinton Coples turns out to be a stud, people are coming away impressed with him so far. And Wilkerson is prime for a breakout, he has always had tons of talent and Pettine has said hes been the best player on defense this spring outside of Revis.

Looking at our schedule, we don't play a lot of great offenses this year so I think that is more in our favor to having a top 3-5 defense.

I like that our offense has a clear identity now, something they didn't have with Schotty. It always seemed like they didn't know what they wanted to do under Schotty. Sparano is bringing much needed discipline to our offense.
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 03:21 AM

View PostEmDiggy, on 19 June 2012 - 09:00 PM, said:

I honestly think that the Jets & Dolphins are essentially the same ball club..

1. Both have capable but questionable QBs
2. Both have 1 Playmaking WR & TE the rest of the WR corps have question marks
3. Both OLs & DLs are talented
4. Both LB corps are very solid
5. Both secondaries are very good..although a slight edge go to the Jets
7. Both are built to run the ball and play good defense



I know a lot of guys in here gave you flack for these, but I honestly can't argue too much with those statements. 2ndhand has enjoyed throwing around stats but those don't mean that the potential and talent isn't their for Bess and Fasano. Fasano used to beast on us but last year the whole team was in a wierd place so no one did well. Bess still has some of the best hands in the game and is shifty to boot. So throw last year out as far as stats go. Your other points are pretty spot on as well. I will give that to you.


However, the dolphins have a new coach, they have very low morale, and they are still in rebuild mode. On top of that, the fish have a REAL qb competition going on so they aren't even set there yet. The Jets may have a qb controversy if Sanchez falters early in the season, which is almost inevitable, but as you put it Tebow is also a starter and he did a similar thing in Denver and took his team to the playoffs so why couldn't he put a similar performance with the Jets? And to beat your prediction he doesn't even need to get us to the playoffs just keep us out of the basement.



I am not trying to say the Fish won't play the Jets tough, they always do. But to say a team who is on life support, is rebuilding, and doesn't know who their starting qb is yet is going to finish over the Jets over the course of a 16 game season, along with the Bills, who have yet to put it together all 16 games, is still pretty far fetched.



The funniest part of the video is the way you were talking up the Jets I was expecting nothing less than a prediction of contending with the Pats, not necessarily overtaking, but contending. If you like them so much, how could you say they would finish dead last in their division? I don't know what a team you didn't like would look like finishing in your opinion.
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 04:19 PM

View PostClemens11, on 21 June 2012 - 04:21 AM, said:

I know a lot of guys in here gave you flack for these, but I honestly can't argue too much with those statements. 2ndhand has enjoyed throwing around stats but those don't mean that the potential and talent isn't their for Bess and Fasano.


I dont know what you're talking about when you say "potential". Fasano is a 6 year vet. He's going into his 7th season... he has never eclipsed 530 yards in a single season. In fact, he only reached 500 yards once, two years ago. He is what he is, I wouldn't even go as far as to call him a good red zone target because his career high in TDs is 7. He's a blocking back who can get you 450 yards per season in reception. I'm not a huge Keller fan but from a production standpoint, Keller runs laps around Fasano and it's not even close.

Bess is a good player. But now he's entering the spot light. Brandon Marshall's crazy ass is gone. Now Bess gets to run with the big dogs and pee in the tall grass. How's he going to fare against #1 CBs? He has good quickness, but no real speed. He doesn't have the short area ability that Welker has. Bess is probably the best slot WR in the NFL, but the Fish are making him the #1. To top that off, his running mate is Chad Ochocinco who hasn't been productive in 3 years and should probably have been out of football by now. Compare Bess, the artist formerly knows and Chad, Legedu Naane and whatever pupu platter emerges out of camp to Holmes, Stephen Hill (who hasn't done jack shit but at this point will be harder to cover than Chad simply because he can run), Kerly and our pupu platter and I don't think the two cores are similar at all.
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Posted 21 June 2012 - 10:19 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 21 June 2012 - 05:19 PM, said:

I dont know what you're talking about when you say "potential". Fasano is a 6 year vet. He's going into his 7th season... he has never eclipsed 530 yards in a single season. In fact, he only reached 500 yards once, two years ago. He is what he is, I wouldn't even go as far as to call him a good red zone target because his career high in TDs is 7. He's a blocking back who can get you 450 yards per season in reception. I'm not a huge Keller fan but from a production standpoint, Keller runs laps around Fasano and it's not even close.

Bess is a good player. But now he's entering the spot light. Brandon Marshall's crazy ass is gone. Now Bess gets to run with the big dogs and pee in the tall grass. How's he going to fare against #1 CBs? He has good quickness, but no real speed. He doesn't have the short area ability that Welker has. Bess is probably the best slot WR in the NFL, but the Fish are making him the #1. To top that off, his running mate is Chad Ochocinco who hasn't been productive in 3 years and should probably have been out of football by now. Compare Bess, the artist formerly knows and Chad, Legedu Naane and whatever pupu platter emerges out of camp to Holmes, Stephen Hill (who hasn't done jack shit but at this point will be harder to cover than Chad simply because he can run), Kerly and our pupu platter and I don't think the two cores are similar at all.


Fasano makes plays, thats what you don't understand cus u just look at stat lines. And Bess isn't entering the spotlight because he just got Eclipsed by Chad Johnson, the wide receiver formerly known as Ochocinco. You dont need big stats to be a playmaker, you just need to make big plays when called upon and both players can do that. Anything else you want to be wrong about?
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Posted 24 June 2012 - 11:12 AM

View PostClemens11, on 21 June 2012 - 11:19 PM, said:

Fasano makes plays, thats what you don't understand cus u just look at stat lines. And Bess isn't entering the spotlight because he just got Eclipsed by Chad Johnson, the wide receiver formerly known as Ochocinco. You dont need big stats to be a playmaker, you just need to make big plays when called upon and both players can do that. Anything else you want to be wrong about?


You're so stupid, I'm surprised you don't fall down more.
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