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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:57 AM) GET RIVERS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Well This Is Great News... Jets scale back Quinton Coples workload

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 12:32 PM

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Jets scale back Quinton Coples workload

When the Jets drafted defensive end Quinton Coples with the 16th overall pick in April, he was immediately dubbed a starter by coach Rex Ryan.

With the first week of training camp in the books, the Jets have moved Coples out of the starting lineup. Defensive coordinator Mike Pettine said that the team will use him in pass rushing situations for the time being after seeing his play slow down as a result of how much he’s trying to learn on the fly.

“We’ll work it from back to front,” Pettine said, via Jenny Vrentas of the Newark Star-Ledger. “He’ll be a third-down guy, similar to [Aaron] Maybin. Get him out there in passing situations and then work him into the base defense. Let him be a back-up for the guys in base, but keep his plate small.”

The move isn’t being sold as a demotion, as Pettine said Coples could still play between 50 and 80 percent of the snaps depending on the opposition. The idea is to have him do comfortable things first and then start feeding him more challenging things as the year goes along. It’s a similar approach to the one they took with 2010 first-round pick Muhammad Wilkerson, who is currently starting at defensive end with Mike DeVito taking the spot once reserved for Coples.

If Coples can help the Jets pass rush improve on last season’s results, there won’t be any complaints about keeping him in that role. If he doesn’t, though, the pre-draft doubts that helped someone of his athletic gifts drop to the 16th pick will crop up again.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 01:23 PM

its fine. we have devito and wilk. can't expect every rookie to play every down immediatly. JPP was cramping all through his 1st camp and only played situationally and look how good he has become.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 01:35 PM

All this means is they are taking him off of the base 3-4 defense, having Devito play that role instead. Sometimes its better to slow it down for a rookie, because when they have too much on their plate they can too tentative with thinking instead of just playing. If Coples can help our pass rush, I will be happy.

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Right now, incumbent DE Mike DeVito is starting ahead of Coples in the 3-4 front. Coples is starting in the 4-3 and in the sub package.

"DeVito is a damn good football player -- he's had a lot of quality reps in this league -- and we're not going to push him to the bench because we drafted Q," Pettine said. "On our defense, you have to earn stuff. As the install got bigger, it got a little overwhelming for him. You could see the gears grinding a little bit."

So they decided to cut back his reps.

"He's almost relieved that more has been taken off his plate and he can play a little faster," Pettine said. "Q is where we expected him to be. We have a plan for him in place."

After drafting him in the first round, Rex Ryan said he expected Coples to start. But the Jets are a multiple-front defense, so the lineup will vary. Here's a look at the current depth chart, based on the different fronts:

• 3-4 Front -- DE DeVito, NT Sione Pouha, DE Muhammad Wilkerson

• 4-3 Front -- DE Coples, DT DeVito, DT Pouha, DE Wilkerson

• 4-man sub front -- DE Aaron Maybin, DT Coples, DT Wilkerson, DE Calvin Pace

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 05:13 PM

cough gholston cough
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 05:48 PM

View PostClemens11, on 02 August 2012 - 05:13 PM, said:

cough gholston cough


Wow.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 06:15 PM

View PostClemens11, on 02 August 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

cough gholston cough


Seriously man, it seems like you never have a positive thing to say. You're some kind of super Jet troll, like a Camenzind junior...
"I thought he was good?!? If he prays when he scores. Everyone knew him for praying. That only can mean he scores :)"

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Posted 02 August 2012 - 07:46 PM

View PostClemens11, on 02 August 2012 - 06:13 PM, said:

cough gholston cough


I disagree. There is no harm or worry in this move.
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Posted 02 August 2012 - 08:22 PM

JPP didn't start his first year either. I guess he's Gholston as well.
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Posted 03 August 2012 - 12:10 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 02 August 2012 - 09:22 PM, said:

JPP didn't start his first year either. I guess he's Gholston as well.


no JPP could do 13 straight back handsprings.
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Posted 03 August 2012 - 12:13 AM

View PostMlorinczJ, on 02 August 2012 - 07:15 PM, said:

Seriously man, it seems like you never have a positive thing to say. You're some kind of super Jet troll, like a Camenzind junior...


Cus i didnt praise the pick of Jordan White, unfortunately he got hurt, or say how i loved the trade for Tebow, or liked the Chaz Schielins signing. your right. never have anything positive to say.

if i have a bunch of negative things to say, its because there are a lot of negative happenings going on with the team. i don't play, coach, or manage the team so i can't take the blame for pointing out something i have no control over. I'm just venting which is healthy :)
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Posted 03 August 2012 - 06:38 PM

View Postsexyrexy, on 02 August 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

Wow.


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Posted 03 August 2012 - 07:47 PM

View PostClemens11, on 03 August 2012 - 01:13 AM, said:

Cus i didnt praise the pick of Jordan White, unfortunately he got hurt, or say how i loved the trade for Tebow, or liked the Chaz Schielins signing. your right. never have anything positive to say.

if i have a bunch of negative things to say, its because there are a lot of negative happenings going on with the team. i don't play, coach, or manage the team so i can't take the blame for pointing out something i have no control over. I'm just venting which is healthy :)

White is healthy and practicing now.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:11 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 03 August 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

White is healthy and practicing now.

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