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MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) How many starters are back from last year?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:23 PM) They had to let defensive players go too. And that's why they refused to pay Chancellor. They don't have the money
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:24 PM) Most of the Defense is back from last season.. who besides the 2nd CB do they not have?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:24 PM) I don't know how many starters. I didn't look through the whole active roster from last year to this year. But I know they let a good many starters go too
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:25 PM) Anyway we need them to win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:26 PM) it puts us in a 4 way tie for the WC
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:26 PM) Maybe Hou can win the division
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:26 PM) They had to let a corner and safety go from the defense and some dline from the starting line up. And some players on the online too
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:27 PM) That's why Russel isn't getting protection and Lynch is having a down year
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:28 PM) Yeah but you need to chr
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:29 PM) check my list of tiebreakers we are down in division and conference games. If the Jets don't beat the Bills and win most of the conference games no playoffs
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:31 PM) Plus we are down in schedule strength to everyone in the hunt for the playoffs except Houston but they have the win and tiebreaker against the Jets
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:32 PM) Oh and also the Bills are below us in schedule strength but have a win against us so have tiebreaker for now
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:33 PM) Chiefs have the easy schedule in the league got the rest of the season so chances of them not getting in are slim
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:35 PM) Chiefs and Stelers are in the drivers seat
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) Right but there is a lot of games to go still
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) who knows maybe we beat Tenn NYG Dal and Buf
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) 10-6?? Maybe
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) 1 game at a time I agree
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:36 PM) KC and Oakland have to play each other twice
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:38 PM) Pitt Still has to play Cinn and Denver
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:39 PM) Who they may beat.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) We just need Sea to win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) Game over
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) Hawks win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:42 PM) Well if they make the PAT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:42 PM) My bad I thought Pitt had 0 timeouts left
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:46 PM) I don't trust Denver against any good team with their backup qb in. I except the Chiefs to overtake the division. They really don't trust him either since an injured Manning is the #2 qb. He barely won last week
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:47 PM) Ben is hurt now
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:47 PM) Don't think its anything big tho
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 07:48 PM) But Steelers losing today and if they lose against the Bengals would help
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:55 PM) Ben has a possible concussion
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 08:08 PM) And Pitt plays Indy next week
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 08:09 PM) If Pittsburgh lose it help if indy lose Houston might be in 1st and have a tie breaker over indy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 08:16 PM) I just can't wait for Sunday. Me and my brother are going to the game. He's a giants fan. So somebody is going home mad
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Where is frosty??.and his MIGHTY DOLPHINS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) Marshall is 70 yards away from being our 1st 1000 yard receiver since cotch in 07
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:03 AM) f*** new England!! And gronk is hurt
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 12:04 AM) Nice to see the Pats won't have an undefeated season. That said the wheat her made the difference. Brady is accurate as heck and the snow affected the pass timing with the wr's
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 12:06 AM) Without the snow I couldn't see the Broncos winning that game. But again great to see the Pats chance at a perfect season go down the tubes
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 02:21 PM) Brandon Marshall is the best WR I've seen on the Jets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 02:23 PM) How bad is Marcus Williams injury?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 02:23 PM) I like how this guy has 5 INTs in limited playing time, he reminds me of Asante Samuel
Mr_Jet Icon : (Today, 04:14 PM) After both losses to the Jets this year Miami fired some coaches. LOL
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 01:34 PM


New York Jets' Rex Ryan will win a Super Bowl -- one day
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Rex Ryan is the perfect coach to lead the New York Jets to their first Super Bowl title since the days of "Broadway" Joe Namath. I've never been more convinced of this.

You read that correctly.

Brace yourselves, haters.

He is polarizing. He can be lovable and loathsome, depending on which team you root for. But when you get past the bluster, you have to respect Rex Ryan as a winner.

He's George Steinbrenner, Barney Rubble, Barnum and Bailey and Bill Belichick rolled into one, a combination that takes some talent to pull off. He will rub you the wrong way, trying to win while making sure his team simultaneously dominates the back pages in New York and gets plenty of national exposure. He's a cartoon character, a true showman and genuine ringmaster for the Jets' big-top circus.

But don't overlook the comparison to Belichick; he's also a great defensive-minded head coach. Players love playing for him. He is fueled and motivated by the epic collapse that killed the Jets' playoff hopes in 2011. The key is that he's smart enough to implement the changes he needs to while staying true to his core beliefs.

I spoke at length with Ryan on a hot Friday morning at training camp in Cortland, N.Y., for an interview on SiriusXM NFL Radio. He was literally and figuratively different than he's been before. He's lost 100 pounds. He is healthier, sharper, more energized. He was also humbled. That's not a characteristic one would ever have associated with the loudmouth in the past.

Ryan called last season "embarrassing, frustrating, and humbling," and meant every single word. He learned a valuable lesson while losing the pulse of the Jets, who bickered and bumbled their way to an 8-8 finish by dropping three straight to the Philadelphia Eagles, New York Giants and Miami Dolphins. The Jets missed the playoffs for the first time in Ryan's three years coaching in New York. He vowed they wouldn't miss the postseason again.

"I build teams," Ryan said. "I trusted our team last year. We were coming off of back-to-back AFC title games. I assumed we had the chemistry. We didn't have the chemistry. We didn't go to Cortland last year with the lockout. We lost control. And of course, the Super Bowl guarantee thing."

Ah, yes. The "Super Bowl guarantee" thing.

Last year, at the NFL Scouting Combine, with an NFL Network camera following him into the interview room, Ryan walked to the interview stage like a WWE wrestler before declaring the Jets would win the big one. Remember, this was February of 2011, just weeks before labor Armageddon ground the offseason to a halt. Everyone in the room knew the free-agency period wasn't going to start on time. Ryan didn't know who was going to be on his team. As I watched the scene unfold, my jaw dropped to the floor. Ryan had officially jumped the shark, securing his future as the boy who cried Super Bowl.

Ryan said he's learned since then. And there's good reason to believe him. Perhaps you haven't noticed -- thanks to the insanity surrounding the addition of Tim Tebow -- but there have been no guarantees this year.

The "new Rex" has been seriously tested this offseason. Santonio Holmes has put forth nonsense on a seemingly daily basis, but Ryan has handled the receiver's comments with aplomb. Ryan had a ripe opportunity to gin up controversy when President Obama recently offered his take on Tebow, Mark Sanchez and the Jets' quarterback situation, creating headlines that screamed for an appearance by the old Rex. Can't you just imagine the back pages of the New York tabloids? Would he talk politics? Would he challenge the president to a fight -- or a football game -- on the White House lawn? Instead, Ryan refused to comment on the matter. It was a rather significant turning point.

Most recently, Ryan has had to deal with some attention-grabbing fist-fights erupting during practices. Ryan broke up Monday's brawl, then forced the team to run laps after a pair of skirmishes interrupted Tuesday's workouts. He's sending a clear message that he won't tolerate anything but a disciplined approach.

In addition to changing his appearance and his ways, Ryan has changed his coaching staff. Brian Schottenheimer is a good offensive coordinator. He just wasn't a mirror image of Rex Ryan. Exit Schottenheimer and enter Tony Sparano. Ryan raved about the incredible energy Sparano has brought to the team since he was hired. Ryan stumbled as a head coach by trusting Schottenheimer with the offense in 2011, failing to ensure he would implement the team's signature "ground-and-pound" approach. There will be no such problems with Sparano. Ryan took similar steps to address the Jets' sporadic pass rush, hiring defensive-line coach Karl Dunbar, who maximized the abilities of Jared Allen with the Minnesota Vikings. Watch second-year pro Muhammad Wilkerson thrive under Dunbar.

Here's the key. Ryan has attempted to be less controversial, but he remains super confident, recently saying he's the best defensive mind in the NFL. OK, he's not Belichick or Dick LeBeau, but I'd put Ryan next on that list. His body of work speaks for itself. He works hand-in-hand with coordinator -- and longtime friend -- Mike Pettine to coach the defense, but Ryan calls the plays, and he's taking ownership. With Sparano implementing Ryan's offensive plan, he can focus more intensely on defense and on improving his in-game management.

Ryan was livid that his defense finished fifth last year, though frankly, if you watched the Jets play, you wondered how they ranked that high. The Jets showed poor tackling fundamentals and struggled in the fourth quarter, and it made Ryan sick. He vowed that his defense wouldn't finish that low again. He has the fire. He has the résumé. He has player support; as linebacker David Harris said, "We refuse to let him down again."

Please don't misinterpret my point. The New England Patriots are the team to beat in the AFC, let alone the AFC East, and an improved Buffalo Bills squad will only make the division tougher. But Ryan has transformed a squad that had the life sucked out of it by his predecessor, Eric Mangini. Ryan has given the Jets a chance to win big every year since he took over.

The Jets will make the playoffs in 2012 and take their postseason swings. They also have a good core for the future, and should be able to add talent as needed, because free agents like playing for Rex Ryan. Finally, the Jets organization believes in him.

He doesn't do it like Belichick, or, for that matter, New York Giants coach Tom Coughlin, Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin or Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy. Ryan has learned and grown while staying true to himself. It will help the Jets win the Super Bowl one day. And once they do, he won't ever stop talking.

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Posted 07 August 2012 - 01:42 PM

I don't know if Rex will ever win a SB, I hope he does with us but its really tough. I'm behind Rex though, I think hes a good coach.
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Posted 07 August 2012 - 01:45 PM

Nice to see the belief and enthusiasm.Most of us have it engraved in us for the point of breakdown like its set in stone to happen at some point every season.

I really hope I live to see at least one. I was born in December of 69 so like most of us here hasn't even got to see the Jets in a Superbowl. So many playoff appearances and always coming up short.

Reminds me of the Red Sox curse. I just want to see one Jets Superbowl win in my lifetime. Hell Id be happy just to see them in one for that matter.

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