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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 10:08 AM

1. Our OL blows.

This is a unit that was intact for what? 5 years now? The only one we were missing last night was Wayne Hunter. I'm not going to get on them for letting Sanchez get hit 5 times in 1Q because it looked like Keller and Powell both missed blocks on those 2 sacks... but the running game... man. No push up front whatsoever. We're not going to be anytype of ground and pound team if we can't drive back the DL. Greene isn't the most shifty back ever, but there's not much you can do when the DL gets their hands on you in the backfield.

2. Bart Scott is going to lose his starting job.

I heard all the hype about how much weight he lost and how much faster he looks. Well last night he looked like a car with 3 wheels. Anytime he was in coverage over the middle, the Bengals picked on him. Since the NFL is quickly becoming a 70-30 league in terms of pass-run, you can't even call him a 2 down LBer anymore. TEs and RBs are going to carve us up in the middle if Scott is left in one on one coverage. Honestly, between our move to the 4-3 and everything I saw last night, the only thing keeps Scott on this team is the fact that no one will pick up his contract.

3. Chaz Schilens is not the 2nd best WR on the team.

For all the feathers that Cro seemed to ruffle, this dude was the most vocal about it. Come game time? He was out played by Patrick Turner and Hill. When you get in front of the microphones, make sure you back it up. You were in the game against 2nd and 3rd stringers and couldn't get open for shit. 0 catches, one pass thrown your way. Sit your ass down at the end of the bench.

4. I hate to say this but... Tim Tebow is going to be a problem.

Unfortunately it looks like our offense this year will not be good. I don't know why, but at this point, it seems like we can't run the ball down people's throats and we can't keep the defenses out of our backfield. We've seen this in 10 but we blamed it on Greene and McKnight, we've seen this in 11 and we blamed it on Hunter and Sanchez, but it seems like every week, the pass rush gets there before the WR is open or before Greene gets to the hole. The premium this year is going to be on moving the chains. Forget everything else. We're goinng to go with whoever gives the defense the most rest and can get us into FG position. Last night, I saw Tebow create. He broke out of arm tackles and rushed for 34 yards on4 carries. That's pretty good. Considering none of those came from under shotgun, that's even better. Mark is the better QB, but unless our OL suddenly decides to pass protect and Greene starts seeing the holes and getting to them a step faster, Sanchez is going to lose more and more snaps to Tebow because Tebow can get to the 1st down marker in 3 tries and no other personnel package can seem to do that.

5. Shonn Greene is done.

I was a big apologist for him but the guy is just not a starter. He might have a nice career on a team like the Pats, or somewhere else where they pass first, but not on a ground and pound team. Then again, he can't catch either. Greene is a big body back but unlike the big body backs that carried teams, he just doesn't have the foot speed. It takes him 3 steps to accelerate and that's just not going to cut it. The pupu platter of McKnight/Powell/Ganaway is going to produce our next starter and unfortunately, it won't be anyone that's going to keep defenses up at night.

6. Defense.

I liked what I saw from Coples. Hopefully when the whole squad is in there, we'll see a truly dominating unit.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 10:56 AM

What I learned from this post: Nothing.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 11:00 AM

when bart got smoked on that one play i said damn he looks just as bad as last year. why wasnt davis in with the ones at all or maybe i missed it. I agree on your point pretty much but I just wanted to add that Coples looks like a monster
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 11:15 AM

View Post518-JeTS-FaN, on 11 August 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:

I just wanted to add that Coples looks like a monster


I liked what I saw from Coples... but did it strike as a little odd that he was basically about to pass out from exhaustion in the 4th Q? I get it, he played the longest... but he didn't play all game. He was in on maybe 5 plays in the 1st Q. It was a night game and this is a young kid. What's going on with his stamina? If he can barely make it through 75% of a preseason game at night, I don't really feel like he's going to come up with that big sack at 3:45PM in Miami. You know? Not nitpicking, but he looked gassed beyond belief. I found that very odd.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 11:23 AM

Guys its the first Pre-season game give them a break. Remember Offense will be very vanilla and you won;t see nearly as much as u will opening day. Remember Pre-season. These all won't matter in till we play game one. Pre-season for kinks and rookies.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 11:32 AM

View PostSoReALSoJetS, on 11 August 2012 - 12:23 PM, said:

Guys its the first Pre-season game give them a break. Remember Offense will be very vanilla and you won;t see nearly as much as u will opening day. Remember Pre-season. These all won't matter in till we play game one. Pre-season for kinks and rookies.


I hear you, which is why none of what I said is dire... except that preseason or not, our OL can't block, especially at the edges. We got Buffalo in less than a month. Do you feel confident with our line against theirs?
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 11:35 AM

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:27 PM

First offensive play of the game
Sanchez pa fake roll out throws to the Fb Connor for zero gain.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:49 PM

looks like same vanilla conservative O
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 01:01 PM

View Post518-JeTS-FaN, on 11 August 2012 - 05:00 PM, said:

when bart got smoked on that one play i said damn he looks just as bad as last year. why wasnt davis in with the ones at all or maybe i missed it. I agree on your point pretty much but I just wanted to add that Coples looks like a monster


To be fair it wasn't just Bart out of the LB corps who gave up quite big pass plays to the Bengals. But it wasn't exactly a performance from which many positives can be taken. Coples did look good, his play against the run improving as the game wore on and Demario Davis appeared to get to the ballcarrier often be it on defence or special teams.
The rest? Meh.
Saying that the Bengals offense only put 10 points as they caught a huge break with the blocked punt that was returned for a TD. A pretty standard, boring preseason game to be honest.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 02:34 PM

Tannehill looked decent.

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 02:34 PM

View Postsantana, on 11 August 2012 - 01:27 PM, said:

First offensive play of the game
Sanchez pa fake roll out throws to the Fb Connor for zero gain.


That's the Sanchez I know. Just check it down. He's been "schottyfied" for life.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 02:52 PM

First thing's first.

1. 1st game under Sparano. No Holmes, the WR core is young and inexperienced. Never really expected much.

2. The OL is horrible bottom line. At the end of the day Sanchez isn't going to see 16 games. This pass pro is disgusting, the run blocking was shameful. There is a lot of work to do upfront. A LOT.

3. Sanchez needs to be more lively out there. When Tebow was in the energy level of the offense spikes. Sanchez just has a "bah-humbug" kinda look to him. Kinda pisses me off a little. He needs to get fired up. He's got to be tired of looking like a sack of sh*t all the time.

4. On Bart Scott: Jets were experimenting with sets. I'm not concerned about Bart. Bart can't, hasn't been and will never be able cover. I don't expect him to be asked to cover much. Not worried about the defense. Rex will have that unit humming by September.

5. Never was a big Shonn Greene fan. He's a #2 back. He's a guy that should be in a 2 back system. Not the lone guy to tote the rock. Jets think Shonn is some beast. The guy is nothing special.

6. Coples is going to be a superstud. He's big, he's mean and he plays the run very well and disrupts. Mo.Wilk, Maybin and Coples are going to be a damn nuisance this year.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 02:53 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 11 August 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

That's the Sanchez I know. Just check it down. He's been "schottyfied" for life.


He got hit 5 times in 1Q in a game where the starters are going half speed. He's got David Carr syndrome at this point.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 03:58 PM

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 07:03 PM

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I'm hoping to god that post wasn't supposed to mean that you think Teblow is better than Sanchez. If you think that, then PLEASE put down whatever the hell it is that you're smoking. I don't want a repeat of 1995. That's exactly what we'd have if he was our QB.

As for last night's game......the O-line wasn't absolutely terrible as a whole. Griffin & Campbell were the knuckleheads. Austin Howard actually looked pretty decent on the Left side. The right side is where our problem is.

Our receivers? Who knows honestly. Sanchez never had time to throw and Teblow CAN'T so we never had the chance to find out.


Defense......there's no doubt that the player of the night was big 6'6" #98. Coples is going to be something special if the boy can get his stamina right. He was involved again & again last night. Let's just hope that wasn't only because of it being against 2nd & 3rd stringers. He looked good and he looked hungry. We've been missing that for a long time. We need him to become that beast that he can be.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 09:11 PM

I learned little from last nights game other than it was the first preseason game and they have stuff to work on still. The OL is learning a new blocking scheme and they had miss blocks. I don't see what more Sanchez could have done, its not like he played much.

Shonn Greene is mediocre, its pretty clear watching him the last 3 years that hes just not a very talented RB. Hes usually at his best during the later months as well, he'll get you 3-4 yards a carry, but hes not a guy that will make something out of nothing and isn't explosive.


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