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ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
bleedsgreen Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) McIntyre is a shock to me he was a solid backup and made some big plays
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) 1 week till we are 1-0
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) we need to annihilate the GAYders
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:28 PM) We claimed McFadden from the Browns. Knows the system should be able to contribute right away
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:29 PM) Watching the Browns game now. Playing all three CB spots. Looks OK. A little grabby although he has not been called for it
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:30 PM) Might be a little aggressive and get burnt over top
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:26 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) ^^^ agreed
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:25 PM) all the admins on this page should be fired
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:25 PM) for being assclowns
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Tebow And " The Gimmick"

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 12:02 AM

Are they really going to play a downhill power running game out of the wilcat or "single wing" with Tebow? I mean in order to really reap what the scheme can bring you need to be able to run AND pass out of it. Therefore Tebow would be ran like Ricky and Ronnie. Thing about those 2 backs is they really punished the defense. When that wildcat was clicking with Miami it beat us up by the 4th. Not just us though. Any team they played. By the 4th the defense is beaten down to a pulp. Thats the way that system works best and of course that element of the pass.

I'm just gonna have to wait and see how they deploy it.

I mean come on. Something crazy is gonna go down with this team this year. Tebow, Sparano who basically exploded the wildcat on the scene. Things are going to get real interesting come September. I mean look at how monsterous this Austin Howard kid is. The Jets are going to be a serious smash mouth running team.
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 04:44 PM

You don't need to be able to pass out of the formation, period. Ronnie Brown attempted six passes in 2009. Smith attempted 3 in 2010. There isn't even always an actual receiver on the field in the Wild-whatever.

The formation creates two issues. It overloads a side of the line and has a fake hand off. So either the back taking the ball passes it off to the guy in motion or he runs into a pile and hopes for a hole. Miami did a great job giving Brown room to run. I want to know who is going to be the back in motion (cause I don't believe Greene can fill that role and McKnight needs to show he can take a hit) and I want to see our OLine get stuff done.

Zero faith in this team resurrecting a gimmick offense a team used well for a year because they didn't have the ability to run an NFL offense 100% of the time.
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 05:12 PM

the problem with the thought process in this thread thus far is that it is way too narrow minded. Saying Tebow is running the wildcat doesn't just mean that we are only going to run a traditional wildcat. we can come out in a wildcat formation, or even a regular formation, and run some variation of the option. There is no way that the Jets are going to limit themselves to just jet sweep, read, and power. Triple option, speed option, inside zone option, option with wide receiver bubbles used as the "pitch man," all these are under the realm of possibilities and what I have though are def options the Jets will explore when using Tebow. The best part is Tebow might not be a great passer but he is way better at throwing the ball than Brad Smith is, so we can line up in a wildcat and fake it and throw a bomb to Hill or over the middle to Keller, or fake Triple or speed option and have him pull up and pass. there are SO many things that the Jets can do but the media and fans are so hung up on the word "Wildcat" and what it has meant in recent history, that they are ignoring the fact that basically what the Jets are going to do with Tebow is run a college spread option-like offense, with wildcat formation as an intricate part of that package.

What I am expecting is some wildcat and some more stuff along the lines of this:






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Posted 14 August 2012 - 05:21 PM

When Miami unleashed the wildcat it was wild. Pennington used to get the ball also in the exchange to throw deep. I can see Soprano playing the power game forcing the opponent to put another defender in the box and then go for a big pass play. The Jets had no long plays from scrimmage last year. Tis will drastically change this year.
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 05:29 PM

The problem with the thought process in this thread is Clemens11 getting involved.

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 10:10 AM

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