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ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:36 PM) If someone calls me an idiot or moron or stupid over a football debate it doesn't bother me in the slightest. But when you make things personal like with racist things or family crap its a whole different level
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:36 PM) I felt my FLiHi remark was as "harmless" as you did calling another person a Moron and stupid because they didn't agree with your opinion
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:38 PM) my friends and I call each other morons and stupid an laugh at each other when we do something stupid like when we are drinking. It means nothing. and we laugh about it because its harmless. I'm trying to tell you this is a big difference between what you say to people and what others do.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:40 PM) Heck 115 rags me a lot and it doesnt bother me in the least. i rag him too. Same with GG2003 and SHJ. There is a difference between friendly banter and disagreements and crossing the line
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:44 PM) So your opinion of the line is right and my opinion is wrong? Is that what your saying? I don't know you. I'm not a drinking buddy of yours. Maybe you should learn some social tact.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) you felt it was harmless but you were the only one. Everyone else understood why I got was extremely offended about it the first time because you cross the line with what you say to people. Apparently you realized it enough to send me a long pm apologizing and having communication problems that get you in trouble sometimes. But now you cant understand the difference?
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:48 PM) I understand why. What I'm saying is if you take a jab people will jab back. Have you heard that saying " dont throw rocks when you live in a glass house?"
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:49 PM) The way you understand things if I call you an idiot about not wanting to trade for a high end qb its no different from me disrespecting your family. Thats what Im getting from you. So the way you see things everything is equally personal
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:50 PM) From complete strangers on an Internet forum? Yes. Man up
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:51 PM) Nod the debate was if he is a "high end" player. I thought he was well above average but not worth a 6th overall pick
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:55 PM) Not worth my time to even acknowledge anymore. Just going to ignore you like I do Mr. Jet. You have a lot of mental growing up to do.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) That's funny coming from a guy who went butt f*** crazy a couple hours ago
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) Meanwhile you can't seem to respect that others opinions are different than yours
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:59 PM) You are emotionally weak. You went through some serious shit growing up and you can't adjust. You take it out on your keyboard.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) When someone challenges your immaturity you have a complete crazy freak out and act like a girl on her first period
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) Hence the "go wipe your pussy and man up comment
Mr_Jet Icon : (15 April 2015 - 10:16 PM) Please Rob, leave my name out of your little bitchfest.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 11:46 PM) My bad. You have been respecting my request to you I had a while backI made to you by us not commenting to each other to keep peace between us. I was totally in the wrong for bringing your name up at all and into an argument with member that has issues. I got furious furious with a child. I should've just ignored him like I do the other immature kids on some game forums and sites I belong to. Wont happen again. My apologies for bringing your name into it Mr. Jet.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:04 AM) Dude.... Get back on your meds.
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:47 AM) WTF? Really???
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:48 AM) Now back to our regular scheduled program......
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 08:08 AM) Lol that escalated quickly
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:24 AM) Rex is chirping again.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) He said he is going to try and kick the Shit out of the Jets
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) http://sports.yahoo....l8xBHNlYwNzcg--
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) I still like the guy. He's entertaining
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:25 PM) i miss rex. love his demeanor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:26 PM) i'd be happy if he kicks the shit out of miami and NE every year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) I
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) I'm excited for the new coaching staff
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) Rex wsa fun, but he was too much with the defense instead of the entire football team
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:57 PM) also he didn't always hold players accountable. I think Bowles will make the team more disciplined.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:50 AM) I don't have any faith in bowles
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:15 AM) “San Diego Chargers will ultimately make a deal with the Tennessee Titans for the number two overall pick. As part of that trade, the Chargers will send the number 17 overall pick and Philip Rivers, just as a start, for the number two pick.”
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:15 AM) Damn... Who called it? This guy.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:16 AM) http://national.sunt...s-mariota-trade
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:13 AM) So we would now lose out on maroita and rivers
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:13 AM) Ain't that super
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:39 PM) do we make a trade for AP?
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:41 PM) I believe the rivers stuff is all speculation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:38 PM) So a top ten qb and the 17th pick for the 2nd overall as a start? Makes sense
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:39 PM) So Many smokescreens this time of year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:08 PM) only 2 more weeks before we find out. draft day will be exciting
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:09 PM) my money is we'll take a pass rushing OLB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:08 PM) Yup, unless they trade up.
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Tebow And " The Gimmick"

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 12:02 AM

Are they really going to play a downhill power running game out of the wilcat or "single wing" with Tebow? I mean in order to really reap what the scheme can bring you need to be able to run AND pass out of it. Therefore Tebow would be ran like Ricky and Ronnie. Thing about those 2 backs is they really punished the defense. When that wildcat was clicking with Miami it beat us up by the 4th. Not just us though. Any team they played. By the 4th the defense is beaten down to a pulp. Thats the way that system works best and of course that element of the pass.

I'm just gonna have to wait and see how they deploy it.

I mean come on. Something crazy is gonna go down with this team this year. Tebow, Sparano who basically exploded the wildcat on the scene. Things are going to get real interesting come September. I mean look at how monsterous this Austin Howard kid is. The Jets are going to be a serious smash mouth running team.
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 04:44 PM

You don't need to be able to pass out of the formation, period. Ronnie Brown attempted six passes in 2009. Smith attempted 3 in 2010. There isn't even always an actual receiver on the field in the Wild-whatever.

The formation creates two issues. It overloads a side of the line and has a fake hand off. So either the back taking the ball passes it off to the guy in motion or he runs into a pile and hopes for a hole. Miami did a great job giving Brown room to run. I want to know who is going to be the back in motion (cause I don't believe Greene can fill that role and McKnight needs to show he can take a hit) and I want to see our OLine get stuff done.

Zero faith in this team resurrecting a gimmick offense a team used well for a year because they didn't have the ability to run an NFL offense 100% of the time.
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 05:12 PM

the problem with the thought process in this thread thus far is that it is way too narrow minded. Saying Tebow is running the wildcat doesn't just mean that we are only going to run a traditional wildcat. we can come out in a wildcat formation, or even a regular formation, and run some variation of the option. There is no way that the Jets are going to limit themselves to just jet sweep, read, and power. Triple option, speed option, inside zone option, option with wide receiver bubbles used as the "pitch man," all these are under the realm of possibilities and what I have though are def options the Jets will explore when using Tebow. The best part is Tebow might not be a great passer but he is way better at throwing the ball than Brad Smith is, so we can line up in a wildcat and fake it and throw a bomb to Hill or over the middle to Keller, or fake Triple or speed option and have him pull up and pass. there are SO many things that the Jets can do but the media and fans are so hung up on the word "Wildcat" and what it has meant in recent history, that they are ignoring the fact that basically what the Jets are going to do with Tebow is run a college spread option-like offense, with wildcat formation as an intricate part of that package.

What I am expecting is some wildcat and some more stuff along the lines of this:






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Posted 14 August 2012 - 05:21 PM

When Miami unleashed the wildcat it was wild. Pennington used to get the ball also in the exchange to throw deep. I can see Soprano playing the power game forcing the opponent to put another defender in the box and then go for a big pass play. The Jets had no long plays from scrimmage last year. Tis will drastically change this year.
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Posted 14 August 2012 - 05:29 PM

The problem with the thought process in this thread is Clemens11 getting involved.

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Posted 15 August 2012 - 10:10 AM

Typical A1, nothing of value to add and always getting off topic. there isn't even a clemens11 post in this thread Posted Image
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