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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 02:56 PM

Per MMehtaNYDN @ Twitter Jets tried to sign Vernon Carey in the offseason. Couple that with the trade attempt with Carolina and the effort has been there. carey decided to retire and coach HS football.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 03:38 PM

Thats good to know but Kareem is still out there
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:16 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 19 August 2012 - 02:56 PM, said:

Per MMehtaNYDN @ Twitter Jets tried to sign Vernon Carey in the offseason. Couple that with the trade attempt with Carolina and the effort has been there. carey decided to retire and coach HS football.

Trying isn't good enough. The offense will stink until we get our offensive line problems solved. They aren't going to score many points getting 3 yards running or the famous 5 yard pass that a lot of us blamed on the coaching. Either fix the line or find a couple receivers who can get open 20 yards downfield in under a second which is obviously a joke!
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:41 PM

View PostThe Reverend, on 19 August 2012 - 04:38 PM, said:

Thats good to know but Kareem is still out there

And he wants to play still, just that people think hes done. He might be slowed down, but will he get embarrassed like Hunter? I doubt since hes been a starter a long time in this league.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:50 PM

Leave no stone unturned!

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 08:07 PM

He could have drafted one. This was a huge glaring hole and we didn't address it. Not putting a band aid on a paper cut is OK, not getting treatment for third degree burns is stupid.
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 08:39 AM

Tanny and the coaching staff have had A LOT of faith in Hunter. I think the staff thought last year may have been due to the fact there was no training camp. He did get a little better as the year went on. The fact that they have tried now means they are convinced he is not the answer. Unfortunately we may be stuck with him if someone better doesn't get cut by week one. At this point who could be worse. Look at this:

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 08:41 AM

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He could have drafted one. This was a huge glaring hole and we didn't address it. Not putting a band aid on a paper cut is OK, not getting treatment for third degree burns is stupid.


Last season showed how little depth we had along the entire offensive line, especially after Rob Turner went down in the preseason. We had no ready replacement for Mangold when he was injured, while Hunter had to play since the only other real option was Vlad Ducasse.
And there were some good tackles to be had in the second roundthis year too. I know it would have upset 115 if we hadn't have taken Stephen Hill, but we could have stayed put, rather than trade up with the Seahawks, and selected Mike Adams. Where we did end up that round, we were one slot away from having Jonathan Martin of Stanford available, and he went to the Dolphins.
Two years ago, rather than project Ducasse, we could have went with Jared Veldheer who has been a dependable starter with Oakland.
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:14 AM

We had a glaring need at multiple spots. RT, Pass Rusher Safety and WR. All with little cap room. He filled all but one. I am not saying he is the best ever but some credit is due. The coaching staff and FO thought Hunter would pan out. They were wrong. Now is the time when Tanny needs to say the Jets made a mistake and make a move.
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 03:30 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 20 August 2012 - 11:14 AM, said:

We had a glaring need at multiple spots. RT, Pass Rusher Safety and WR. All with little cap room. He filled all but one. I am not saying he is the best ever but some credit is due. The coaching staff and FO thought Hunter would pan out. They were wrong. Now is the time when Tanny needs to say the Jets made a mistake and make a move.


Our defense didn't need nearly as much help as RT. Coples is a luxury pick that Ryan pushed through. The Jets didn't need a miscellaneous defensive linemen like they do a guy who is capable of blocking anything at all.
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 03:38 PM

I don't see Coples as a luxury pick, our defense needed to add a pass rusher. We were giving QBs all day to throw vs us.

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The Jets ignored RT and a #2 TE. A good blocking TE can help in protection, Cumberland looks awful in run and pass blocking. Also, I thought that Conley would have been released a long time ago, he shanks too many punts.
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