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SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:25 PM) I've read a ton of articles and all had him as the favorite
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:25 PM) Who was the favorite then?
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:27 PM) "Smith was already going to be on most Heisman preseason lists, but a 407-yard, 6-TD performance in the Orange Bowl win over Clemson only solidified him as an elite passer. He can make every throw on the field and has a plethora of talented receivers coming back. Since this team will likely be playing in the Big 12, which has had the uncanny knack for inflating quarterback numbers recently, Smith and head coach Dana Holgorsen are going to leave opposing defenses charred and crippled on most Saturdays."
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:27 PM) That's from a Jan 2012 article
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:27 PM) You can google shit from 14 months ago and find a f*** ton of these
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:29 PM) http://news.yahoo.com/top-10-heisman-trophy-candidates-2012-heading-season-150300441--ncaaf.html
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:31 PM) http://newyork.sbnation.com/2012/8/17/3249284/heisman-trophy-watchlist-2012-las-vegas-betting-odds-line-matt-barkley-montee-ball-denard-robinson
SecondHandJets Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:32 PM) He was 4th according to Vegas odds in April 2012
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:53 PM) 4th makes him the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:53 PM) you said he was the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:53 PM) he wasn't anything near the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:54 PM) he reached his pinnacle in the heisman race in the early part of last season
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:54 PM) at that point he was the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (24 May 2013 - 09:56 PM) also, what a basketball game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 May 2013 - 10:21 PM) 4 point game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 May 2013 - 10:21 PM) maybe the pacers are that good
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 12:36 AM) I said that his time last year, he was the favorite. I misspoke. He was 3rd or 4th. He certainly wasn't "not even in the 2nd tier" like you claimed
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 12:36 AM) Take your medicine Matty
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 12:36 AM) Maybe you should watch more college football instead of talking about watching college football
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:46 AM) No he wasn't 3rd or 4th
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:47 AM) He was the 4th favorite in vegas, making him no where near the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:47 AM) Barkley had 3/2 odds, Geno was 9-1
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:48 AM) It's whatever
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 AM) Manish leaving jets beat
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 AM) About time
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 11:22 AM) Was he "not even in the 2nd tier"? No. STFU
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:25 AM) Was he the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:26 AM) Or even close to the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:27 AM) Nice Manish leaving? Good shit
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 AM) SHJ, your boy EJ leads a very sad life
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:57 AM) haha why do you say that
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:03 PM) I'm friends with SHJ on Facebook and I replied "TEH KNICKS" then EJ recognized my name and started commenting saying shit
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:04 PM) He then goes "yeah and f*** the Knicks" I wanted to tell him he doesn't know what that joke is because he's banned
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:05 PM) haha
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:05 PM) what a dick
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 01:55 PM) Yea i saw that about an hour after
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 01:55 PM) Very cringy
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 01:56 PM) He didn't bring anything to the table
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:38 PM) how can you say that? you supported the f*** out of him
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:40 PM) I like him when hes not off his rocking chair which is rare
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:49 PM) THE RANGERS
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Really....am I The Only Noticing Ferguson Is Horrid?

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 01:44 PM

Am I the only one that is pissed about Ferguson`s performance??? Has no one else noticed how bad he has been???

Ferguson has been terrible in every preseason game. I mentioned it before preseason game 3 that Ferguson had been playing bad and after game 3 when Howard looked good Ferguson stood out like a sore thumb. He was either beat or pushed back into Sanchez almost on every pass play so its a huge problem.

He even failed to block on a couple of run plays. On one running play last night the defender ran around Ferguson`s left outside shoulder with Ferg barely laying a hand on him. The defender ran a complete circle around Ferguson to actually get his hands on the feet of Greene on an inside running play. Greene was far enough inside that the defender should never have been able to touch Greene.

Hunter has been much worse but if anyone goes back and looks at the first two preseason games Sanchez has been getting pressure from the left side on almost every play. Its only been overshadowed because Hunter has even been worse.
The point is We all wanted Hunter out but Ferguson was a pro-bowler and now looks like total shit which is even worse. Hunter was never more than a backup and the coaches thought he was more than he was which was a a bad call on their part but from pro-bowl caliber to looking like total shit is way worse.

He obviously put little or no work in during the off season. I hope the coaches see it as a problem in the game film.I wouldn't be bothered with it if it was a one game problem but Ferguson has been a huge problem every preseason game and literally on almost every passing play.I'm utterly amazed no one else here is calling him out.

It being preseason doesn't give him a pass and isn't an excuse. One missed block can get your qb put on IR. Its happened many times in preseason to starting qb`s.The way I see it with Howard playing well Ferguson is now the weak link on the line. He doesn't deserve to get game 4 off. His lard ass needs to play the whole game and get whipped into shape. And again if he hadn't been a pro-bowler I wouldn't be so livid but to go from a pro-bowler to shit in only a year or two is unthinkable. Its nothing but laziness.

I wish I was part of a major news media. Id definitely ream him bad in an article.He needs called out publicly to put him on the microscope.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:27 PM

He has not been terrible in every preseason game, I haven't rewatched last nights game but I did rewatch him vs the Giants and he played a good game, besides letting up a coverage sack. But for the most part he was playing good and it was Wayne Hunter and the TEs getting destroyed.

I didn't rewatch him vs the Bengals, but I know that 1 sack people blamed him for was the TE Cumberland getting beat.

The media said he had a noticeable limp after last nights game, but he said he was fine.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:32 PM

I noticed in camp that he looks very skinny for an OL. I'd be shocked if he was over 290lbs.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:16 PM

He's been on a serious decline this year and last. Don't know whats up. Maybe he's losing a love for the game.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 27 August 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

He has not been terrible in every preseason game, I haven't rewatched last nights game but I did rewatch him vs the Giants and he played a good game, besides letting up a coverage sack. But for the most part he was playing good and it was Wayne Hunter and the TEs getting destroyed.

I didn't rewatch him vs the Bengals, but I know that 1 sack people blamed him for was the TE Cumberland getting beat.

The media said he had a noticeable limp after last nights game, but he said he was fine.

I may try to re-watch the first two preseason games. You could be right. It may not have been Brick missing all those blocks on the left side during the first two games. Truthfully it was hard to focus in on anyone else but Hunter because he looked like he was a high school or college lineman getting beat by an NFL all-pro. We were all focusing on Hunter. Maybe Woody was missing some too.

That said I do distinctly remember that Sanchez also had pressure on the left side of the line on almost every pass play. He wasn't getting hit every time or sacked every time from the left side because Hunter`s side was like it was a free rush so the right side of the rush almost always got their first.

With all that I do remember Brick missing some blocks in the first two games even though I wasn't focusing on him and also someone else on the forum had pointed out that Brick was also missing blocks.

Like I said I want to review those games again to see for sure who was missing their blocks on the left side. All that a side Ferguson was absolutely horrible in the 3rd game. To deny that is delusion.It was easy to focus in on Brick because Howard was doing a great job which is really amazing considering the Panthers strong side is the left side of their defense(our right side). The only one on the line getting consistently beat or pushed back in game three was Brick and anyone who didn't notice it should watch the game again and focus in on Ferguson.

And again even when Brick wasn't totally beat he was being pushed back into Sanchez. I cant stress this enough that this shouldn't be happening to a recent former Pro-bowl lineman. It causes stress to Sanchez seeing the lineman pushed into him and he cant focus on the throw as well or the receivers. That is a problem Ducasse has. When Ducasse isn't beat he is getting pushed back. Brick shouldn't have that problem.Brick being a pro-bowler should be able to hold his ground at the line 9 out 10 times unless hes is facing a beast. But Brick was getting beat or pushed back by everyone he was blocking. This means he is lacking strength somewhere(probably in his legs).

Whether you guys want to admit it or not this is a problem because Brick should not be getting pushed back like that. No pro-bowler should in most situations. Pro-bowlers mean the elite and Brick sure as hell has not been elite or anywhere close to it.


As Ive said before I like reviewing games more than once to catch things I missed during the game since I can focus in on each individuals job. I'm sure you pricks remember ragging me when I called it game film last year.I just like to do it to get an unbiased view of the players and their mechanics which you cant do very well during the game because you are all pumped up and focusing on the ball mostly. Watching the game again after its been decided gives you a chance to focus on what everyone is and isn't doing.While it may not be actual game film it is interesting to do it if you are in to analyzing the game within the game.

Anyway hopefully some others here will also review the first two games. It shouldn't really take long since the 1st team offense wasn't in that much.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:28 PM

Oh believe me. It's not just you Rob that sees Bricks decline. A lot of the Jet faithful have noticed
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:46 PM

Brick had a foot injury last season that really didn't get much attention from the media, they slightly mentioned it towards the end of the season.

We need a good blocking TE, Josh Baker was making some nice blocks yesterday but unfortunately for him he blew out his knee from a cheap shot. Cumberland sucks and Keller can't block well either. I'm hoping they can pick up a guy like they did in 2009 with Ben Hartsock.
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