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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) jets werent fixing him
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:47 PM) King mo says he's ok, injury is minor
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 09:21 AM) As a guy who has been on this site since its inception and is still not a moderator which I guess is cause I'm not part of the rat pack who runs this joint I think GENO should still be the starter.
mgjetman Icon : (Today, 10:19 AM) We still could have won this game with the bad calls. Geno just sucks. All the pick six's, missing wide open receivers, bad throws when they are fought. Stupid trick plays because they don't trust him.
santana Icon : (Today, 10:31 AM) I don't get his decision making
santana Icon : (Today, 10:32 AM) There were another 2-3 ints the bears were gifted but were dropped
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) f***
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) I had a blast at the game... just sucks we lost
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) 1-3 when I go se them
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:32 AM) Refs fucked up the fumble for a TD. by calling it down the first time everyone in the stadium saw it as a fumble
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) they need to just let them plays play out because they now look at every turnover
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) If hes down they could just overturn it on the replay
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) f*** Holmes to
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) gg2003 you want to be a mod?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) You have to go through your initiation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) Gg03 would be a terrif
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) what is the "initiation"
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:47 PM) :zz:
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:53 PM) and no I will not say that Idzik needs to be canned cause he doesn't
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:54 PM) he just needs to find talent at the CB and WR positions while also improving in positions that are currently our strengths like DL and OL
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 01:30 PM) Fire idzik!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 01:45 PM) Best part of last night was Wayne Chrebet going onto the Ring of Honor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 02:04 PM) u think our oline is a strength? did u not see geno getting killed out there?
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Really....am I The Only Noticing Ferguson Is Horrid?

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Posted 27 August 2012 - 01:44 PM

Am I the only one that is pissed about Ferguson`s performance??? Has no one else noticed how bad he has been???

Ferguson has been terrible in every preseason game. I mentioned it before preseason game 3 that Ferguson had been playing bad and after game 3 when Howard looked good Ferguson stood out like a sore thumb. He was either beat or pushed back into Sanchez almost on every pass play so its a huge problem.

He even failed to block on a couple of run plays. On one running play last night the defender ran around Ferguson`s left outside shoulder with Ferg barely laying a hand on him. The defender ran a complete circle around Ferguson to actually get his hands on the feet of Greene on an inside running play. Greene was far enough inside that the defender should never have been able to touch Greene.

Hunter has been much worse but if anyone goes back and looks at the first two preseason games Sanchez has been getting pressure from the left side on almost every play. Its only been overshadowed because Hunter has even been worse.
The point is We all wanted Hunter out but Ferguson was a pro-bowler and now looks like total shit which is even worse. Hunter was never more than a backup and the coaches thought he was more than he was which was a a bad call on their part but from pro-bowl caliber to looking like total shit is way worse.

He obviously put little or no work in during the off season. I hope the coaches see it as a problem in the game film.I wouldn't be bothered with it if it was a one game problem but Ferguson has been a huge problem every preseason game and literally on almost every passing play.I'm utterly amazed no one else here is calling him out.

It being preseason doesn't give him a pass and isn't an excuse. One missed block can get your qb put on IR. Its happened many times in preseason to starting qb`s.The way I see it with Howard playing well Ferguson is now the weak link on the line. He doesn't deserve to get game 4 off. His lard ass needs to play the whole game and get whipped into shape. And again if he hadn't been a pro-bowler I wouldn't be so livid but to go from a pro-bowler to shit in only a year or two is unthinkable. Its nothing but laziness.

I wish I was part of a major news media. Id definitely ream him bad in an article.He needs called out publicly to put him on the microscope.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:27 PM

He has not been terrible in every preseason game, I haven't rewatched last nights game but I did rewatch him vs the Giants and he played a good game, besides letting up a coverage sack. But for the most part he was playing good and it was Wayne Hunter and the TEs getting destroyed.

I didn't rewatch him vs the Bengals, but I know that 1 sack people blamed him for was the TE Cumberland getting beat.

The media said he had a noticeable limp after last nights game, but he said he was fine.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 04:32 PM

I noticed in camp that he looks very skinny for an OL. I'd be shocked if he was over 290lbs.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:16 PM

He's been on a serious decline this year and last. Don't know whats up. Maybe he's losing a love for the game.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:22 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 27 August 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

He has not been terrible in every preseason game, I haven't rewatched last nights game but I did rewatch him vs the Giants and he played a good game, besides letting up a coverage sack. But for the most part he was playing good and it was Wayne Hunter and the TEs getting destroyed.

I didn't rewatch him vs the Bengals, but I know that 1 sack people blamed him for was the TE Cumberland getting beat.

The media said he had a noticeable limp after last nights game, but he said he was fine.

I may try to re-watch the first two preseason games. You could be right. It may not have been Brick missing all those blocks on the left side during the first two games. Truthfully it was hard to focus in on anyone else but Hunter because he looked like he was a high school or college lineman getting beat by an NFL all-pro. We were all focusing on Hunter. Maybe Woody was missing some too.

That said I do distinctly remember that Sanchez also had pressure on the left side of the line on almost every pass play. He wasn't getting hit every time or sacked every time from the left side because Hunter`s side was like it was a free rush so the right side of the rush almost always got their first.

With all that I do remember Brick missing some blocks in the first two games even though I wasn't focusing on him and also someone else on the forum had pointed out that Brick was also missing blocks.

Like I said I want to review those games again to see for sure who was missing their blocks on the left side. All that a side Ferguson was absolutely horrible in the 3rd game. To deny that is delusion.It was easy to focus in on Brick because Howard was doing a great job which is really amazing considering the Panthers strong side is the left side of their defense(our right side). The only one on the line getting consistently beat or pushed back in game three was Brick and anyone who didn't notice it should watch the game again and focus in on Ferguson.

And again even when Brick wasn't totally beat he was being pushed back into Sanchez. I cant stress this enough that this shouldn't be happening to a recent former Pro-bowl lineman. It causes stress to Sanchez seeing the lineman pushed into him and he cant focus on the throw as well or the receivers. That is a problem Ducasse has. When Ducasse isn't beat he is getting pushed back. Brick shouldn't have that problem.Brick being a pro-bowler should be able to hold his ground at the line 9 out 10 times unless hes is facing a beast. But Brick was getting beat or pushed back by everyone he was blocking. This means he is lacking strength somewhere(probably in his legs).

Whether you guys want to admit it or not this is a problem because Brick should not be getting pushed back like that. No pro-bowler should in most situations. Pro-bowlers mean the elite and Brick sure as hell has not been elite or anywhere close to it.


As Ive said before I like reviewing games more than once to catch things I missed during the game since I can focus in on each individuals job. I'm sure you pricks remember ragging me when I called it game film last year.I just like to do it to get an unbiased view of the players and their mechanics which you cant do very well during the game because you are all pumped up and focusing on the ball mostly. Watching the game again after its been decided gives you a chance to focus on what everyone is and isn't doing.While it may not be actual game film it is interesting to do it if you are in to analyzing the game within the game.

Anyway hopefully some others here will also review the first two games. It shouldn't really take long since the 1st team offense wasn't in that much.
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:28 PM

Oh believe me. It's not just you Rob that sees Bricks decline. A lot of the Jet faithful have noticed
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Posted 27 August 2012 - 06:46 PM

Brick had a foot injury last season that really didn't get much attention from the media, they slightly mentioned it towards the end of the season.

We need a good blocking TE, Josh Baker was making some nice blocks yesterday but unfortunately for him he blew out his knee from a cheap shot. Cumberland sucks and Keller can't block well either. I'm hoping they can pick up a guy like they did in 2009 with Ben Hartsock.
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