NYJetsFan.com Forums: Jets Trade Wayne Hunter For Ot Jason Smith (Rams) - NYJetsFan.com Forums

Jump to content

Toggle shoutbox NYJETSFAN BANTER

Geno injured, IK cut, Amish Rifle starting - http://nyjetsfan.com...showtopic=38773
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2015 - 02:26 PM) I haven't heard about that
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2015 - 02:28 PM) I read how kerley has been uncover able one on one
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2015 - 02:57 PM) http://www.nj.com/je...ey_backups.html
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2015 - 02:57 PM) http://nypost.com/20...appearing-role/
Smedsthejet Icon : (19 August 2015 - 03:03 PM) Any news on how Shaq Evans is performing?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (20 August 2015 - 11:12 AM) http://nypost.com/20...ricks-of-trade/
Jetsfan115 Icon : (20 August 2015 - 11:12 AM) sounds like the jets think kerly is too small for what they want
Jetsfan115 Icon : (20 August 2015 - 11:13 AM) if enunwa is our 3rd WR that gives us 3 starting Wrs over 6-2. compared to the 5'7 kerly.
RetireChrebet Icon : (20 August 2015 - 11:32 PM) Hopefully enunwa pans out. The jets need to start catching talent in he late rounds like most successful teams do.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (21 August 2015 - 03:05 PM) MT did for us
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 August 2015 - 06:49 PM) Well it's only pre season but I don't enjoy watching them walk right over our defense
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 August 2015 - 07:20 PM) Looks like nothing has changed from the last 5 years. Our offense is still trash
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 August 2015 - 07:50 PM) Damn petty has a rocket arm!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 August 2015 - 07:54 PM) Kellen Davis sucks
Mr_Jet Icon : (22 August 2015 - 12:40 PM) Bryce Petty looked really good last night.
azjetfan Icon : (22 August 2015 - 04:56 PM) He took some big steps from week one. There is no question. If he continues to progress like that we may be chanting for him sooner than expected. I love his arm.
azjetfan Icon : (22 August 2015 - 06:56 PM) Sanchez looks like Drew Bree's today
MikeGangGree... Icon : (25 August 2015 - 01:24 PM) WOOOOOOOO Ric Flair!
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 August 2015 - 01:45 PM) The guy in the fantasy league who said we're scared of Santana... is clearly santana.
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 August 2015 - 01:45 PM) just sayin
Jetsman05 Icon : (26 August 2015 - 01:45 PM) im only half serious
santana Icon : (27 August 2015 - 09:30 AM) Also i suspect that santana
santana Icon : (27 August 2015 - 09:30 AM) might be santana
santana Icon : (27 August 2015 - 01:35 PM) Tough draw for Liverpool
Jetsman05 Icon : (27 August 2015 - 02:21 PM) Suarez second best in Europe... pretty good
SoReALSoJetS Icon : (29 August 2015 - 06:11 PM) anybody know a stream for it?
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:49 AM) WOOOOO
Smedsthejet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) Jets just announced first 12 players to be released:
Smedsthejet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) T. J. Graham, Saalim Hakim, Austin Hill, DeVier Posey, Jonathon Rumph (WRs), Matt LaCosse (TE), James Brewer, Dalton Freeman (OL), Bryan Johnson (LB), Javier Arenas, Curtis Brown, Keith Lewis (DBs)
Smedsthejet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:11 AM) A little surprised that Posey is gone in this first batch of moves, but then we did have a glut of WRs
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:50 PM) Any word on Leonard Williams injury?
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 11:49 PM) He will be ready week 1. Just a sprain
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 10:33 AM) so we whooped the giants ass pretty badly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 10:38 AM) bills cut fred jackson
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:29 PM) We got lucky with Williams
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:30 PM) Hes looked like a beast as well, so we need him healthy. Hes gonna be a future all pro
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:31 PM) Our offense can be competent this season
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:33 PM) Zac Stacy was a good add
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 01:46 PM) I'm surprised Freeman was cut, I thought he was a solid backup center. Guess they like Wesley Johnson better
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 01:58 PM) our offense is passable. we should put up 14-17 a game average
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 01:58 PM) should be enough for our Defense. our d-line is nasty with wilk, rich, snacks, and now williams
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 01:59 PM) out MLBs get picked on in coverage though. davis had a rough game
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 01:59 PM) our Cbs are way too good. cro revis and skrine. plus mcdougle looked solid. when milliner comes back, him being a dime back could be huge too
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 02:24 PM) 17 points a game is "passable"? If we average 17 a game this season, we won't win more than 5 ball games.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 02:24 PM) Needs to be 20+
Resize Shouts Area

  • (2 Pages)
  • +
  • 1
  • 2

Jets Trade Wayne Hunter For Ot Jason Smith (Rams)

#1 User is offline   Jetsfan0099 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 17,121
  • Joined: 30-July 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Jersey

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:18 PM

Quote

@RichCimini
Filed to ESPN: #Jets close to finalizing deal for Rams RT Jason Smith, league sources. RT Wayne Hunter part of deal. Smith, No. 2 pick '09.



Posted Image
Posted Image
0

#2 User is offline   Chaos Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Admin
  • Posts: 3,176
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male

Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:27 PM

His Combine profile:

Quote

OVERVIEW
Smith is still learning to play on the offensive line after starting his Baylor career at tight end (six catches for 70 yards and one touchdown as a redshirt freshman). But after flashing exciting potential as a sophomore and junior, Smith's play ascended to another level in 2008. He started on the right side as a sophomore in 2006 and missed time at left tackle in 2007 with a strained MCL. He was named honorable mention All-Big 12 as a junior. Smith's play earned him All-American honors in 2008 -- the first BU offensive lineman to be so honored since 1980. Smith is a raw prospect at this time compared to some of the other left tackles in this draft. If he is impressive in postseason all-star games, workouts and interviews, Smith has the upside to vault to the top of the class. Had an arm span of 33 3/4 inches and a hand span of 9 3/4 inches at the combine.

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS Positives: Tall, athletic left tackle prospect. ... Excellent straight-line speed and hustle, getting downfield on screens and long runs. ... Can pull and trap, running smoothly and adjusting to oncoming defenders. ... Moves to the second level quickly, using good angles to keep linebackers out of the play. ... Should work well in zone-blocking schemes with his ability to lock onto defenders and move. ... Gets down quickly to cut block despite his height. ... Adjusts well to outside blitzers. ... Willing to throw his man to the ground and keep him there. ... Has made significant improvement in terms of technique and strength over the past two years at left tackle. Negatives: Typically operates out of a two-point stance for Baylor. ... Raw in his pass-set technique, standing a bit upright and backpedaling instead of sliding to mirror his man. ... Locks onto his man at first, but eventually loses his balance and grip due to his average upper-body strength and footwork. ... Does not have much of a punch in pass protection. ... Can lose the hands battle on the line. ... Could use a bit more bulk in the lower body to be more effective as a drive blocker. ... Could be moved inside to left guard for a zone-blocking team.


http://www.nfl.com/c...-smith?id=71471
0

#3 User is offline   Chaos Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Admin
  • Posts: 3,176
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male

Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:28 PM

And his blurb from wiki:

Quote

On July 30, 2009 the Rams agreed to terms with Smith on a six-year contract with $33 million in guarantees. The maximum value of the deal is $61 million. The sixth year is voidable, which would leave Smith with $6.6 million per year over five years.

Currently, Smith is the starting right tackle for the Rams. Though drafted as a left tackle he has been beaten out by 2010 Rams rookie Rodger Saffold.[13] As a rookie, in 2009, Smith played mostly right tackle, although he played some left tackle—the position for which he was drafted. In his rookie season Smith suffered a serious concussion November 22, 2009. "My situation was real serious," Smith related and it caused him to miss the remainder of his rookie season.[14]


http://en.wikipedia....rican_football)
0

#4 User is offline   Chaos Icon

  • D Coordinator
  • Icon
  • Group: Admin
  • Posts: 3,176
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male

Posted 27 August 2012 - 07:37 PM

Salary info:

Quote

4/21/2012: Signed a two-year, $16.5 million contract. The deal contains $4 million guaranteed -- Smith's 2012 base salary. 2012: $4 million (+ $500,000 roster bonus), 2013: $750,000 (+ $11.25 million roster bonus), 2014: Free Agent


http://www.rotoworld...218/jason-smith
0

#5 User is offline   SecondHandJets Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7,492
  • Joined: 28-November 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:28 PM

Is this for real?! Tanny executive of the year!
0

#6 User is offline   Jetsfan0099 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 17,121
  • Joined: 30-July 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Jersey

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:36 PM

Quote

@JennyVrentas
Jets' plans are for Howard to stay the starter and Smith to fill Hunter's role as jumbo TE, source says


Quote

@DWAZ73
Source familiar with deal says #Jets had no intention of trading Hunter _ but then the #Rams called

Posted Image
0

#7 User is offline   SecondHandJets Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7,492
  • Joined: 28-November 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 27 August 2012 - 08:46 PM

What do we know about Jason Smith? Obviously he's a huge bust to be drafted #2 overall and then get traded for Hunter... but how bad is he? Is he serviceable as a starter or is he depth?
0

#8 User is offline   ROBJETS Icon

  • LB Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,470
  • Joined: 29-September 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:31 PM

I wouldn't praise Tanny over this yet. That is a huge contract to take on if this guy is a bust and no better or worse than Hunter. We still have Ducasse and we dont need another like him.

Hopefully this guy pans out.

If not Tanny screwed us. Id rather pay out 2.4m this year for a has-been then get stuck with a 16.5m contract for a bust.Not to mention that is a big contract for a backup.
0

#9 User is offline   SecondHandJets Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7,492
  • Joined: 28-November 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 27 August 2012 - 09:59 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 27 August 2012 - 10:31 PM, said:

I wouldn't praise Tanny over this yet. That is a huge contract to take on if this guy is a bust and no better or worse than Hunter. We still have Ducasse and we dont need another like him.

Hopefully this guy pans out.

If not Tanny screwed us. Id rather pay out 2.4m this year for a has-been then get stuck with a 16.5m contract for a bust.Not to mention that is a big contract for a backup.


From what I'm reading, he's owed $4M guaranteed.
0

#10 User is offline   Jetsfan0099 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 17,121
  • Joined: 30-July 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Jersey

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 27 August 2012 - 11:35 PM

The Jets are only paying $1.5 mil more for Smith.
Posted Image
0

#11 User is offline   MikeGangGreenFan2 Icon

  • THE KNICKS
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 2,727
  • Joined: 08-April 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Florida.used to live in NY.
  • Interests:playing football
    watching the yankees WIN
    playing video games
    and a shit load of other things.

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 28 August 2012 - 01:04 AM

So now we have 3 of the top 11 picks from the 09 draft
0

#12 User is offline   bluelinecop Icon

  • 04 L.F. Award/05 Best Mod Award/06 Best Sig Award
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 4,139
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Jersey - Home of New York Jets Football.

  • NFL Team:

Posted 28 August 2012 - 09:24 AM

Don't kid yoursevles. Smith sucks ass. He's horrible.
Fifteen years ago after an especially disappointing loss to Miami, Esiason, then the Jets' quarterback, was making the seven-mile drive from the Meadowlands back to Manhattan.
While he was slogging through stop-and-go traffic at the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel, the car next to him was violently rear-ended. The quarterback threw his car into park, hopped out and ran to the woman whose car had been hit. She was wearing, of all things, an Esiason jersey, and was utterly shocked when he tapped on her window to check on her.
"Are you OK?" he said, trying to keep calm. "Are you OK?"
"Boomer? Is that you?" she asked the Good Samaritan, sounding disoriented. "I think I'm OK, but . ... "
But what?
"But you guys sucked."
Welcome to the New York Jets, Tim Tebow.

http://modernworldphotography.com/
http://fineartameric...dos-santos.html
0

#13 User is online   Smedsthejet Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 8,283
  • Joined: 10-April 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London, England

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:26 AM

View Postbluelinecop, on 28 August 2012 - 03:24 PM, said:

Don't kid yoursevles. Smith sucks ass. He's horrible.


It does come across as a trade of the Jets' underachieving, overpaid tackle for the Rams' underachieving, even more overpaid tackle. I guess what we get is Smith's remaining 'upside', while the Rams cut costs and pick up a player their new offensive coordinator is familiar with. It wouldn't be a newsworthy deal if Hunter had not attracted so much attention for his woeful play and Smith had not been taken number two overall.
0

#14 User is offline   jetfan4life12 Icon

  • LB Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,140
  • Joined: 04-April 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Boca Raton, FL

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:50 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 27 August 2012 - 07:18 PM, said:

Posted Image

Was he 2nd overall or just a second round pick? He can't possibly be worse than Hunter; that's for sure. If the jets over payed to get him, it's their own fault for letting what every football fan could see with their eyes closed. Ever since Damien Woody left, the offense stunk. If you can't control the line of scrimmage, you aren't gonna win much.
0

#15 User is offline   S-Dubb Icon

  • 2008 Best Insider Award
  • Icon
  • View blog
  • Group: Assistant Admin
  • Posts: 31,145
  • Joined: 02-May 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:---
  • Interests:Hardcore Jets & Knicks fan - Gym rat - health and nutrition - family man and proud father.

    Twitter: @NYJETSFANCOM

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 28 August 2012 - 11:53 AM

Jets to Rams. " we'll trade our garbage RT for yours. "
0

#16 User is offline   Jetsfan115 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Assistant Admin
  • Posts: 23,770
  • Joined: 30-March 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cali

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:17 PM

anything that gets hunter off the team is fine by me. howard did a nice job and this guy can't be worse then hunter
0

#17 User is offline   Jetsfan0099 Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Moderator
  • Posts: 17,121
  • Joined: 30-July 05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:New Jersey

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 28 August 2012 - 12:44 PM

View Postjetfan4life12, on 28 August 2012 - 12:50 PM, said:

Was he 2nd overall or just a second round pick? He can't possibly be worse than Hunter; that's for sure. If the jets over payed to get him, it's their own fault for letting what every football fan could see with their eyes closed. Ever since Damien Woody left, the offense stunk. If you can't control the line of scrimmage, you aren't gonna win much.

He was the 2nd overall pick
Posted Image
0

#18 User is offline   SecondHandJets Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7,492
  • Joined: 28-November 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 28 August 2012 - 03:53 PM

View Postbluelinecop, on 28 August 2012 - 10:24 AM, said:

Don't kid yoursevles. Smith sucks ass. He's horrible.


He's "horrible" because the Rams are horrible. He was actually pretty average according to PFF. It's just that the rest of the OL was garbage and any time you have 2 average players and 3 awful ones, the entire product looks like a giant mud bowl of shit. Compound that with the fact that this kid was the #2 overall pick, and he's their Gholston except if Gholston was injury prone and averaged 4 sacks per year (which would be average for his position).

Wayne Hunter was the worst OT in football last year (seriously, per PFF statistics). Nuff said.
0

#19 User is offline   A1elbow Icon

  • LB Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 1,890
  • Joined: 07-October 09

  • NFL Team:

Posted 28 August 2012 - 04:20 PM

So the Jets got rid of him after they talked about how much they liked him and after it became so apparent that there was a problem that every media outlet and fan was going crazy about how they could be keeping him...


...sound familiar?

Posted Image

Posted Image


Exterminate all rational thought, that is the conclusion I have come to
0

#20 User is offline   SecondHandJets Icon

  • Assistant Head Coach
  • Icon
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 7,492
  • Joined: 28-November 05
  • Gender:Male

  • NFL Team:

  • MLB:

Posted 28 August 2012 - 04:24 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 28 August 2012 - 05:20 PM, said:

So the Jets got rid of him after they talked about how much they liked him and after it became so apparent that there was a problem that every media outlet and fan was going crazy about how they could be keeping him...


...sound familiar?

Posted Image


The Jets didn't outright fire Schotty, they let him "resign". Figure he owed Tanny a solid for this one so he took Hunter off our hands. He turned out to be a pretty good guy afterall.
0

  • (2 Pages)
  • +
  • 1
  • 2


Fast Reply

  

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users