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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
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Rex Ryan: Stephen Hill Not 'my Pick' For New York Jets

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 03:22 PM

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Rex Ryan: Stephen Hill not 'my pick' for New York Jets

The New York Jets used their second-round draft pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the No. 43 overall pick, on Georgia Tech wide receiver Stephen Hill. But if it were up to head coach Rex Ryan, the Jets would have gone in a different direction.

"Well, nothing told me he would (contribute)," Ryan told Don Banks of Sports Illustrated. "Nothing. When I saw the tape (of his collegiate play) I was concerned. But (Jets general manager) Mike Tannenbaum and (senior personnel executive) Terry Brady and all our scouts were adamant about this guy. They were adamant that this guy can do it.

"He can run all these routes, he had good hands and he's got 4.2 speed at 6-foot-5. He was the guy they all wanted, but honestly, when it came down to it, a wideout? Not my dream pick. But now that we have him, of course, I want to claim him: 'Oh, that was my pick.' But it really wasn't."

Part of Ryan's hesitation might have been due to Hill playing in a triple-option offense in college. The run-heavy offense limited Hill to just 49 catches for 1,248 yards and nine touchdowns in his 38-game career.

Coming from that offense actually makes Hill a perfect fit with the Jets -- which Ryan seems to acknowledge by wanting to claim Hill as his own selection -- which are planning to a be a run-first offense under Tony Sparano and should benefit from Hill's exceptional blocking ability.


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Posted 01 September 2012 - 03:26 PM

Rex Ryan is a f***ing moron. Anyone defending this sad excuse for a coach needs to wake up.
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 04:37 PM

I preferred Alshon Jeffery, as long he kept in shape. He was a hands catcher, not a body catcher and had big production in the SEC with a awful QB.
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 05:58 PM

I appreciate the honesty
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 06:33 PM

Take it easy champ. Maybe you should stop talking for a while.
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 10:45 PM

All he said was he didn't want to take a receiver but he's happy we have him

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 10:50 PM

so overtalk and over praise about everyone else on the roster except the guy that is being counted on to be a big part of the offense
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:43 PM

Did anyone actually bother to read the quotes or just the title? He's actually praising Hill.
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Posted 02 September 2012 - 08:37 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 02 September 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

Did anyone actually bother to read the quotes or just the title? He's actually praising Hill.


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Posted 02 September 2012 - 09:28 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 01 September 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

All he said was he didn't want to take a receiver but he's happy we have him

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He also said there was nothing in Hill's college game tape that said he was going to be good.
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Posted 02 September 2012 - 04:53 PM

If that's how he feels that's how feels. It's not a big deal.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 06:10 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 02 September 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

Did anyone actually bother to read the quotes or just the title? He's actually praising Hill.


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Posted 02 September 2012 - 06:52 PM

Ryan always says he loves his players-he always said he wanted Hunter starting and Schotty to come back. He doesn't always say he didn't want a guy around.

Were I Hill I would be pissed my HC is talking about being overridden about taking me and worried I was going to be cut considering the last player Ryan said nice things about.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 02:09 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 02 September 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

Ryan always says he loves his players-he always said he wanted Hunter starting and Schotty to come back. He doesn't always say he didn't want a guy around.

Were I Hill I would be pissed my HC is talking about being overridden about taking me and worried I was going to be cut considering the last player Ryan said nice things about.

I know you aren't really into the bravado type of coaches and that is cool because we are all different. Some people like the quiet coaches.

I like Rex because he has a way with his words that makes most people want to see what he has next. Honestly Rex is the whole reason Hard Knocks Jets was the best Hard Knocks ever. Everyone couldn't wait to see what Rex said next Jets fans or not. He could be a good comedian if he wanted to.

I'm kind of in between on the topic. I like talkers that are about the team (especially the ones that are humble and only talk to pump the team up) but I cant stand the ones that talk about themselves(especially the ones that are such a**holes that they refer to themselves in the 3rd person).

I guess from my end its all about the charisma of the person who is talking. I couldn't stand to hear Cowher but kind of liked Gruden.


On another matter I'm not really sure why you and a few others think Rex is a bad head coach?? Two out of three years AFC Championship appearance. That`s a pretty good resume for a first 3 years(especially with a rookie qb who had the deer in the headlights look in most games his first two years)and no matter what happens this year the defense looks like it will be solid which it wasn't last year.As average as the offense was last year if we wouldn't have had so many weak areas on defense the Jets would have easily made the playoffs last year. We had no pass rush and other than Revis and Cro we were weak in pretty much every other defensive area. It was amazing the defense finished in the rank it did with all the problems.

The offense is what needs work now. If the offense still sucks by the end of the 2013 season Id say then it would be time to question him as a coach. I just think its far to early to call him a bad coach. Hell I think Mark is a terrible qb but I do have at least some belief that he could finally break out this year.

Cowher took 15 years to win a Superbowl and they had some pretty bad offenses over that period.Honestly I think the only reason he finally got his rings was only because of Roethlesburger. That was the difference in my mind. They finally had a franchise qb. Andy Reed has never won one as a head coach.

As far as Rex blowing smoke up his players a**es that is logically just media talk. You almost never see any head coach talk bad about their players. I'm quite sure Rex thought Gholston was sh*t but you would never see him say that in the media. As you know any time a coach makes a mistake and says or does something bad the media eats it up and blows it out of proportion.I mean hell we have commercials with stupid things some of the retired coaches have said.I`m just saying I wouldn't take it to heart when Rex or any coach says they have belief in a player because they know more than we do who on the team sucks and who doesn't. They just cant say it.

Just my take on it all.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:32 AM

  • Rex took over a team that had a winning record and, had Favre not gotten hurt, would have made the playoffs and been one of the favorites to win a SB. The fact is, before Ryan took over we were an injury away from being able to make a playoff run.
  • The Jets are one of the worst prepared teams in the league under Ryan. We are constantly playing from behind and have had to ask Sanchez to win games in the 4th way too often and have our defense try to make desperate stands too much. This is largely because the Jets in the first quarter generally look like they didn't get ready for the game, either mentally and/or in studying. Offensively the team rarely took advantage of weak points on offense.
  • Our drafts have not been great. Sanchez and Greene have been okay, but our picks on the offensive line have been terrible and while our defensive line picks look to have promise, Wilson has been a major bust.
  • All the stuff about players "loving" to play for Ryan is obviously, at best, no more than partially true. The team has looked listless as much as impassioned, especially over the last season and a half (including this preseason). Ryan admits he lost the pulse of the team, something absurd for a coach his player-relationship reputation.
  • Ryan has repeatedly acted in a manner that doesn't represent the team well. Cussing, giving the finger, etc. Some people might feel this doesn't matter, but I think the number of fans that don't appreciate these antics shows that enough care that he should act like an adult.
  • Likewise, his press conferences are an embarrassment. He acts like he has no clue what he is doing, regularly stumbling through answers and, of course, crying. Really, if the Jets are winning Ryan looks like a pathetic buffoon who has never had to deal with losing in his life (not to be petty, but this almost certainly stems from the nepotism involved with being Buddy's son and not having to have proven himself on his own merits).
  • The Jets, and Ryan, did a horrible job with Sanchez his first season, constantly using publicly-acknowledged stunts (green-light/red-light passing situations and the sliding crap among others) to "help" him that just made him sound like an infant unable to learn like other players.


It isn't just that Ryan is a terrible coach, he is probably just average or below average, but when you act a fool and your team isn't winning, you just look like a fool.
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