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ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) If they keep ZHill after this game I will be shocked.
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:38 PM) Philly gave us a worse ass whipping than Detroit gave Buffalo. only difference is we scored
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 09:42 PM) Im just wondering what manning will put up on our secondary? 70?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:12 PM) who cares about getting destroyed in a preseason game, especially the 4th one. Most of these guys won't even make the team
ganggreen2003 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:15 PM) Hill cut yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) FIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:21 PM) Yeah this game means nothing...except to Stephen Hill (who fumbled lol) and 115
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:23 PM) Hill is a bum, hes pretty much never shown much football skill. The Jets fucked up big time taking him over Alshon Jeffery.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:29 PM) I'm still pissed off about that
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:43 PM) Its not that Im worried about the preseason game itself. i could care less about that. Its the fact of how bad we got destroyed. And some of the guys will be on the team and others on the fringe so getting destroyed like that doesnt fill me with confidence
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:44 PM) It would be one thing if it was just the second half or 4th quarter but this was the whole game. especially getting destroyed in the 1st quarter and at least part of the 2nd where a lot of the guys will be on the team
ROBJETS Icon : (28 August 2014 - 10:48 PM) 2nd and 3rd stringers making the team had something to prove and even our 2nd stringers got owned so yes Im very concerned. The first stringers need breaks and also if some of them get injured they need to step up. So no after this performance start to finish Im very concerned
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:39 AM) Meh...you're reading too much into it
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 06:40 AM) Even in seasons where the Jets blew, I haven't seen anyone refer to the preseason to complain. Ever.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:15 AM) fire izdik http://theredzone.or...rs/Default.aspx
Jetsman05 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 11:17 AM) I picture Rob and 115 as real life friends
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 04:01 PM) Holmes can still play, problem is that hes also a cancer. He wore out his welcome with the Jets
ganggreen2003 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 08:23 PM) did Hill get cut?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:00 PM) Haven't seen anything yet
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 August 2014 - 09:06 PM) Whos ready for the season!!? WOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (30 August 2014 - 11:54 AM) Hill has been cut
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 August 2014 - 01:24 PM) Who wants to take bets he ends up in NE
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:18 PM) We'll I guess you guys are fools then in thinking im a fool for being concerned. Do any of you even know that in 2013 the Jets gave up the most passing yards in the franchise since 1986? And our secondary right now is worse than last year right now. To not be concerned is utterly foolish.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:19 PM) Unless our d-line has a monstrous year odds are the team will be eaten up in the pass. Every team will game plan to exploit the pass this year.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 02:56 PM) Patterson got cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:24 PM) Patterson must have been a huge cancer to get cut
flood555 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:26 PM) is there a midseason draft? we need a DB!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) Our week 1 starting CBs will be Antonio Allen and Darrin Walls... wow
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 03:58 PM) interesting that Simms and Boyd were released
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 04:00 PM) No more McIntyre
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:20 PM) Pretty sure some of these cuts like Simms and McIntyre were made for removing some more cap space to try to find some decent corners and maybe another reliable wr. Possibly get some players cheap. I'd say the current 53 roster will change a good bit in the next week.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:23 PM) I just hope Geno doesn't get hurt or we are horse f*cked. Vick sure as hell can't stay healthy for a full season. I guess the FO could also be think of picking up an old vet cut as 3rd qb. Simms is ok but I'd never trust him to win a regular season game if he was put in.
ROBJETS Icon : (30 August 2014 - 05:25 PM) Anyway it's going yo be an interesting week.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:18 PM) I doubt it was about freeing up money, considering we are way under. Like more than $20 mil, way more than enough to find some vet minimum CB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 August 2014 - 10:19 PM) it's more about the roster numbers. McIntyre was replaced by rookies. IK showed flashes when he played
bleedsgreen Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) McIntyre is a shock to me he was a solid backup and made some big plays
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) 1 week till we are 1-0
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) we need to annihilate the GAYders
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:28 PM) We claimed McFadden from the Browns. Knows the system should be able to contribute right away
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:29 PM) Watching the Browns game now. Playing all three CB spots. Looks OK. A little grabby although he has not been called for it
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:30 PM) Might be a little aggressive and get burnt over top
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:26 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 06:58 AM) ^^^ agreed
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Rex Ryan: Stephen Hill Not 'my Pick' For New York Jets

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 03:22 PM

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Rex Ryan: Stephen Hill not 'my pick' for New York Jets

The New York Jets used their second-round draft pick in the 2012 NFL Draft, the No. 43 overall pick, on Georgia Tech wide receiver Stephen Hill. But if it were up to head coach Rex Ryan, the Jets would have gone in a different direction.

"Well, nothing told me he would (contribute)," Ryan told Don Banks of Sports Illustrated. "Nothing. When I saw the tape (of his collegiate play) I was concerned. But (Jets general manager) Mike Tannenbaum and (senior personnel executive) Terry Brady and all our scouts were adamant about this guy. They were adamant that this guy can do it.

"He can run all these routes, he had good hands and he's got 4.2 speed at 6-foot-5. He was the guy they all wanted, but honestly, when it came down to it, a wideout? Not my dream pick. But now that we have him, of course, I want to claim him: 'Oh, that was my pick.' But it really wasn't."

Part of Ryan's hesitation might have been due to Hill playing in a triple-option offense in college. The run-heavy offense limited Hill to just 49 catches for 1,248 yards and nine touchdowns in his 38-game career.

Coming from that offense actually makes Hill a perfect fit with the Jets -- which Ryan seems to acknowledge by wanting to claim Hill as his own selection -- which are planning to a be a run-first offense under Tony Sparano and should benefit from Hill's exceptional blocking ability.


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Posted 01 September 2012 - 03:26 PM

Rex Ryan is a f***ing moron. Anyone defending this sad excuse for a coach needs to wake up.
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 04:37 PM

I preferred Alshon Jeffery, as long he kept in shape. He was a hands catcher, not a body catcher and had big production in the SEC with a awful QB.
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 05:58 PM

I appreciate the honesty
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 06:33 PM

Take it easy champ. Maybe you should stop talking for a while.
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 10:45 PM

All he said was he didn't want to take a receiver but he's happy we have him

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Posted 01 September 2012 - 10:50 PM

so overtalk and over praise about everyone else on the roster except the guy that is being counted on to be a big part of the offense
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Posted 01 September 2012 - 11:43 PM

Did anyone actually bother to read the quotes or just the title? He's actually praising Hill.
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Posted 02 September 2012 - 08:37 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 02 September 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

Did anyone actually bother to read the quotes or just the title? He's actually praising Hill.


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Posted 02 September 2012 - 09:28 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 01 September 2012 - 11:45 PM, said:

All he said was he didn't want to take a receiver but he's happy we have him

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He also said there was nothing in Hill's college game tape that said he was going to be good.
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Posted 02 September 2012 - 04:53 PM

If that's how he feels that's how feels. It's not a big deal.

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Posted 02 September 2012 - 06:10 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 02 September 2012 - 12:43 AM, said:

Did anyone actually bother to read the quotes or just the title? He's actually praising Hill.


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Posted 02 September 2012 - 06:52 PM

Ryan always says he loves his players-he always said he wanted Hunter starting and Schotty to come back. He doesn't always say he didn't want a guy around.

Were I Hill I would be pissed my HC is talking about being overridden about taking me and worried I was going to be cut considering the last player Ryan said nice things about.
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Posted 03 September 2012 - 02:09 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 02 September 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

Ryan always says he loves his players-he always said he wanted Hunter starting and Schotty to come back. He doesn't always say he didn't want a guy around.

Were I Hill I would be pissed my HC is talking about being overridden about taking me and worried I was going to be cut considering the last player Ryan said nice things about.

I know you aren't really into the bravado type of coaches and that is cool because we are all different. Some people like the quiet coaches.

I like Rex because he has a way with his words that makes most people want to see what he has next. Honestly Rex is the whole reason Hard Knocks Jets was the best Hard Knocks ever. Everyone couldn't wait to see what Rex said next Jets fans or not. He could be a good comedian if he wanted to.

I'm kind of in between on the topic. I like talkers that are about the team (especially the ones that are humble and only talk to pump the team up) but I cant stand the ones that talk about themselves(especially the ones that are such a**holes that they refer to themselves in the 3rd person).

I guess from my end its all about the charisma of the person who is talking. I couldn't stand to hear Cowher but kind of liked Gruden.


On another matter I'm not really sure why you and a few others think Rex is a bad head coach?? Two out of three years AFC Championship appearance. That`s a pretty good resume for a first 3 years(especially with a rookie qb who had the deer in the headlights look in most games his first two years)and no matter what happens this year the defense looks like it will be solid which it wasn't last year.As average as the offense was last year if we wouldn't have had so many weak areas on defense the Jets would have easily made the playoffs last year. We had no pass rush and other than Revis and Cro we were weak in pretty much every other defensive area. It was amazing the defense finished in the rank it did with all the problems.

The offense is what needs work now. If the offense still sucks by the end of the 2013 season Id say then it would be time to question him as a coach. I just think its far to early to call him a bad coach. Hell I think Mark is a terrible qb but I do have at least some belief that he could finally break out this year.

Cowher took 15 years to win a Superbowl and they had some pretty bad offenses over that period.Honestly I think the only reason he finally got his rings was only because of Roethlesburger. That was the difference in my mind. They finally had a franchise qb. Andy Reed has never won one as a head coach.

As far as Rex blowing smoke up his players a**es that is logically just media talk. You almost never see any head coach talk bad about their players. I'm quite sure Rex thought Gholston was sh*t but you would never see him say that in the media. As you know any time a coach makes a mistake and says or does something bad the media eats it up and blows it out of proportion.I mean hell we have commercials with stupid things some of the retired coaches have said.I`m just saying I wouldn't take it to heart when Rex or any coach says they have belief in a player because they know more than we do who on the team sucks and who doesn't. They just cant say it.

Just my take on it all.
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Posted 04 September 2012 - 10:32 AM

  • Rex took over a team that had a winning record and, had Favre not gotten hurt, would have made the playoffs and been one of the favorites to win a SB. The fact is, before Ryan took over we were an injury away from being able to make a playoff run.
  • The Jets are one of the worst prepared teams in the league under Ryan. We are constantly playing from behind and have had to ask Sanchez to win games in the 4th way too often and have our defense try to make desperate stands too much. This is largely because the Jets in the first quarter generally look like they didn't get ready for the game, either mentally and/or in studying. Offensively the team rarely took advantage of weak points on offense.
  • Our drafts have not been great. Sanchez and Greene have been okay, but our picks on the offensive line have been terrible and while our defensive line picks look to have promise, Wilson has been a major bust.
  • All the stuff about players "loving" to play for Ryan is obviously, at best, no more than partially true. The team has looked listless as much as impassioned, especially over the last season and a half (including this preseason). Ryan admits he lost the pulse of the team, something absurd for a coach his player-relationship reputation.
  • Ryan has repeatedly acted in a manner that doesn't represent the team well. Cussing, giving the finger, etc. Some people might feel this doesn't matter, but I think the number of fans that don't appreciate these antics shows that enough care that he should act like an adult.
  • Likewise, his press conferences are an embarrassment. He acts like he has no clue what he is doing, regularly stumbling through answers and, of course, crying. Really, if the Jets are winning Ryan looks like a pathetic buffoon who has never had to deal with losing in his life (not to be petty, but this almost certainly stems from the nepotism involved with being Buddy's son and not having to have proven himself on his own merits).
  • The Jets, and Ryan, did a horrible job with Sanchez his first season, constantly using publicly-acknowledged stunts (green-light/red-light passing situations and the sliding crap among others) to "help" him that just made him sound like an infant unable to learn like other players.


It isn't just that Ryan is a terrible coach, he is probably just average or below average, but when you act a fool and your team isn't winning, you just look like a fool.
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