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Great Article On The Defense Agree in part, dissent in part

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 11:44 AM

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Posted 06 September 2012 - 02:07 PM

Oh look...you posted a negative article on a part of the team that has been widely considered a potentially elite unit.

You're so intelligent...thank you for enlightening me!
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Posted 07 September 2012 - 03:35 AM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 06 September 2012 - 03:07 PM, said:

Oh look...you posted a negative article on a part of the team that has been widely considered a potentially elite unit.

You're so intelligent...thank you for enlightening me!

Not that there is any validity to the author's points... Keep your head buried in the sand, moron.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 06:12 PM

By watching today's game, I failed to see the validity in the author's points. Care to clarify them for us Camenzind? Spiller put up big numbers in the second half once Rex decided to let up for some unknown reason. He always does that when we're up double digits though. Especially when it's 41-14.

So how about you enlighten us like you were asked to do rather than just calling people moron or do you not have the intellectual capabilities to do so? Oh. That's right. We won today so we won't see you. Dickhead.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 06:20 PM

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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 11:04 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 09 September 2012 - 07:12 PM, said:

By watching today's game, I failed to see the validity in the author's points. Care to clarify them for us Camenzind? Spiller put up big numbers in the second half once Rex decided to let up for some unknown reason. He always does that when we're up double digits though. Especially when it's 41-14.

So how about you enlighten us like you were asked to do rather than just calling people moron or do you not have the intellectual capabilities to do so? Oh. That's right. We won today so we won't see you. Dickhead.

I'd be happy to ya big dummy. First of all gentlemen, let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet. It was the Bills. I have never been afraid of Fitzpatrick. Our secondary, when it mattered, played very well. Yet I did notice a few things. Not much of a push up front from our defensive line. I didn't see much of a pass rush. Even Maybin didn't do much from the edge. I will watch the game again to reassess. Just as Ray Lucas pointed out in the post game, "Great defenses step on the neck of other teams and break them when a team is up big."

Bart Scott was horrible yesterday. The first Spiller ridiculous video game run was partially his fault and he recognized that on the sideline. Sloppiness and laziness. The Jets D got lazy when they were up 41-14. They were flat footed and slow. After watching that game, are you any less concerned about covering Brady's tight ends when New England comes to town?

I am very happy about the win and very pleased with Sanchez, the offensive line and Steven Hill. Santonio Holmes acted like a little baby in the locker room with reporters. He makes me sick. Nonetheless, this article, and your childish attempt to provoke me, was about the defense. And unless you watched the game through rose colored lenses, you'll recognize that my concerns are valid. Talk to me after the Pittsburgh game. I do hope I am very wrong.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 11:12 AM

View PostCamenzind, on 10 September 2012 - 12:04 PM, said:

First of all gentlemen, let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet.


You used this analogy once already. It was considerably awkward then, and it's considerably awkward now.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 12:11 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 10 September 2012 - 12:12 PM, said:

You used this analogy once already. It was considerably awkward then, and it's considerably awkward now.

It is not an analogy. It is called an expression and one I will continue to use if so inclined. Focus on the points I evinced rather than misnomerizing my sentences. How's that for "considerably awkward."
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 12:57 PM

Ok, first of all, I don't worry too much about things that need to be fixed or tweaked concerning the defense. I saw some mistakes by Landry and Bell in their run support (their new to the scheme they'll get better) Seen some overpersuing from the safeties and I saw them not really maintain their gap integrity. Jimmy and Smitty have experience in the system and fit their respected gaps, you can see the learning curve.

Also, Pouha didn't play. We have a rookie in Quinton Coples and a 2nd year guy really getting his 1st real crack with the starters. So thankfully it's week 1, the Jets will correct their issues defending the run (a staple of a Rex Ryan defense) and this defense will only get better.

Same can be said for an offense that has new parts and a new O.C. Whats scary is we should be better in both phazes towards the end of the year when it matters.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 01:16 PM

View PostCamenzind, on 10 September 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

It is not an analogy. It is called an expression and one I will continue to use if so inclined. Focus on the points I evinced rather than misnomerizing my sentences. How's that for "considerably awkward."


I actually don't focus on anything you post, nor does the vast majority of the board. Yay I'm glad you know big words though.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 04:09 PM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 10 September 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

I actually don't focus on anything you post, nor does the vast majority of the board. Yay I'm glad you know big words though.


"Big" is a subjective term. I understand any word with more than two syllables might cause you some difficulties so I will work on that.

You don't focus on what I write because your maturity level rivals that of a 12-year old. You want to read only what you simply want to believe. The truth might get in the way.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 04:31 PM

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 05:53 PM

didn't read the article and yeah I noticed not much from the front 4 guys but than there was the 3 int's . I would rather have the int's every game with points than the other.
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 05:27 PM

I think the D played fine the first half other than a single run from Spiller. The second half showed the typical Rex Ryan approach of not wanting to literally embarrass the other team for some strange reason. You may want to watch the game again Camenzind and see that there were hardly any blitz packages being sent in the second half. I agree that it would have been nice to see them stay hungry for a full 60 minutes, but to post some garbage like you did and then knock REAL Jets fans for calling you out on your typical practice of always looking for something NEGATIVE to say about the team? No wonder everyone here thinks you're an asshole and a closet Patriot fan.
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:16 PM

View PostCamenzind, on 10 September 2012 - 01:11 PM, said:

It is not an analogy. It is called an expression and one I will continue to use if so inclined. Focus on the points I evinced rather than misnomerizing my sentences. How's that for "considerably awkward."


HOLY SHIT you're such a douche bag. Overcompensating much? One of the best pieces of advice you can give anyone is to keep things simple; the shortest and simplest way of saying something is almost always the best.

Plus, I'm pretty sure misnomerizing isn't a word...genius.
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:26 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 12 September 2012 - 08:16 PM, said:

Plus, I'm pretty sure misnomerizing isn't a word...genius.



You're correct. It's not a word. Then again I could just be misnomerizing myself.
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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.
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Posted 12 September 2012 - 07:30 PM

I'm looking forward to the day everyone stops feeding into his bullshit and completely ignores him. Sort of like that South Park episode where everyone ignores Cartman to the point where he thinks he died
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Posted 13 September 2012 - 12:06 PM

View PostCamenzind, on 07 September 2012 - 04:35 AM, said:

Not that there is any validity to the author's points... Keep your head buried in the sand, moron.

The article does point out some issues that will either have been as a result of a lopsided score or a problem. I was at the game and was a bit surprised that Spiller ran all over us. I was also surprised that we couldn't really pressure Fitzpatrick when it was obvious he had to throw. And I didn't see our offensive line opening big holes for our running game.

Having said that, I was blown away by Sanchez, Hill, Kerley and our defensive backs. So I would say if Parcells was our coach he would feast on the things we didn't do well in order to keep the team focused. But we have every reason to be ecstatic with the way the game went - especially as we really didn't blitz or give too much away.

I would venture a guess that 98% of Jet fans feel a lot better about the team now then they did last week at this time.

So trying to take everyone's enthusiasm away and then calling them morons for not wanting to focus on the negative is a sure way to deflect whatever point you were trying to make in favor of a release of your obvious frustrations.
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Posted 14 September 2012 - 08:27 AM

PSS - The title really displays an inappropriate use of the word dissent.

Dissent is, by definition, to differ in sentiment or opinion, especially from the majority.

The majority here would be that the Jets defense is going to be a great unit, yet you are "dissenting" from the guy who is saying the Jets defense will not be great...which is certainly not the majority.

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