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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Today, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 05:50 PM

Considering how many times the Wildcat package was called today, is anyone else concerned that Sparano has some of Schotty's tendencies in him? It seems to me like it was being called just for the hell of it rather than at distinct points in the game. To me, it should be used as a tool to jump start the offense if its struggling or if we NEED something different. NOT in the middle of a sustained drive in which the Offense is clicking. Tebow got called for delay of game because of the Wildcat & his inability to have enough brain cells to look at a play clock that was no more than 30 feet in front of his face. Yes.....it was the team that got the flag for delay but I put that ENTIRELY on Tebow considering Rex was trying to call the time out from the sideline but was ignored.

The win today was good but the Wildcat is still being used wrong. At least in my opinion it is. Anyone agree?
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 06:10 PM

Agree with you completely. The Wildcat needs to be tamed. It killed me every time they marched out Tebow even though Sanchez was on fire today. Let the man do his thing. I'm worried that Sanchez is going to get hurt at WR when Tebow is playing QB. Tebow can come in if needed or he can go play special teams.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 06:11 PM

It was gaining 3-4 yards every time, basically instead of handing the ball off you do that. it adds another dimension to our offense.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 06:27 PM

I also think that we stuck to it today to actually get some game time action with it. Having the luxury of scoring some quick points gives more freedom for playcalling. I do hope that the coaching staff realizes that it was a little bit of a hinderance in some spots, maybe a snap earlier in the drive....
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 06:28 PM

The wildcat doesn't work anymore. Been saying that for awhile now. Tebow was not needed to or ever with this team. He recovered an onside kick but the game was already over. Hated seeing Sanchez get off the field after driving the team down the field. Let him finished what he started.

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Posted 09 September 2012 - 06:36 PM

I think that Sanchez and the offense get hurt as a whole with it. How many times under Scotty did we see drives start to build & move down field only to stall because Scotty wanted to get cute with the play calling? It literally KILLED our offense in the past. Yes.....we were lucky to get 3-4 yards each time today but what happens if a DB decides to take a shot jamming Sanchez at the line when he's lined up outside? Will it be worth it then? We all tore Scotty apart for drive killing play calling & now its being repeated with this damn wildcat. It was just successful against a team we typically are able to run against.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 07:44 PM

To say it didn't work today is wrong. It was successful but not a revelation. Pretty much what 0099 said.

I do agree though, I've always hated seeing Sanchez settling in and to see him run to the sideline. Annoying.
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Posted 09 September 2012 - 11:47 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 09 September 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

To say it didn't work today is wrong. It was successful but not a revelation. Pretty much what 0099 said.

I do agree though, I've always hated seeing Sanchez settling in and to see him run to the sideline. Annoying.


It just didn't really accomplish anything that a run wouldn't have, except force the team to switch out some guys. I don't think it was a positive or a negative, but it wasn't really applied with, seemingly, any strategy. I think the Jets will roll it out a certain amount of times per game to keep Tebowmaniacs happy, but unless the base offense struggles it looks like the wildtebow is just a money-play.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:03 AM

I'm not going to criticize or praise the wildcat with Tebow running it, but I will say that Sanchez's first times on the field during the regular season isn't the time to try that shit. If Sanchez is the starting QB like they're saying he is, then let the man work. He doesn't need to be split wide with Tebow taking a snap in an obvious call to run the ball.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:47 AM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 10 September 2012 - 08:03 AM, said:

I'm not going to criticize or praise the wildcat with Tebow running it, but I will say that Sanchez's first times on the field during the regular season isn't the time to try that shit. If Sanchez is the starting QB like they're saying he is, then let the man work. He doesn't need to be split wide with Tebow taking a snap in an obvious call to run the ball.


I agree! I wonder if we will see less of it with Sanchez looking a little more relaxed, and playing a littler better. (I know it is only 1 game) I wonder if it bothered Sanchez at all.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 10:36 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 09 September 2012 - 05:44 PM, said:

To say it didn't work today is wrong. It was successful but not a revelation. Pretty much what 0099 said.

I do agree though, I've always hated seeing Sanchez settling in and to see him run to the sideline. Annoying.


True but how much did you love seeing hill flying around the field? :beach:
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 12:19 PM

Interesting blurb from an article:

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If Sanchez comes off the field for any of Tebow’s wildcat-type plays, Sparano instructed him to treat those snaps as extra timeouts — just like Pennington did in 2008, when the Dolphins rolled out the wildcat.

http://www.nj.com/je..._has_built.html

The Jets scored 2 touchdowns after plays that Tebow ran. Maybe it's helping?
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 01:06 PM

View PostChaos, on 10 September 2012 - 01:19 PM, said:

Interesting blurb from an article:


http://www.nj.com/je..._has_built.html

The Jets scored 2 touchdowns after plays that Tebow ran. Maybe it's helping?


That is very interesting. Gives him time to talk some things over with Sparano and make mental adjustments. Very interesting.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 02:30 PM

View PostJetsfan115, on 10 September 2012 - 11:36 AM, said:

True but how much did you love seeing hill flying around the field? :beach:


Looked very good. Hope he continues to progress because lord knows with that physical ability we could have an All-Pro on our hands.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 03:04 PM

View PostChaos, on 10 September 2012 - 01:19 PM, said:

Interesting blurb from an article:


http://www.nj.com/je..._has_built.html

The Jets scored 2 touchdowns after plays that Tebow ran. Maybe it's helping?



I feel like the wild cat packages do serve a purpose, just because there wasn't huge gains yesterday doesn't mean it was a failure. I'll take 3-4 yards a carry running the ball, not every run is going to be a big gain. As long as these packages are used right. Sparano seemed to have a good flow to the game for the most part yesterday, even had a nice play action call at the end when they were stuffing the run and we really needed a first down to ice the game, Sanchez hitting Holmes for a 25 yard gainer.


Sanchez had his highest YPA for his CAREER yesterday (besides the Bengals playoff game where he only threw 15 passes). We saw things we didn't see at all last season, there is reason to be optimistic even if it was the Bills (who really isn't that bad).
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 04:05 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 10 September 2012 - 12:30 PM, said:

Looked very good. Hope he continues to progress because lord knows with that physical ability we could have an All-Pro on our hands.


he can make some nice adjustments too. he knows how to fight for a ball. he just drops the easy ones sometimes, but hey victor cruz dropped like 5 in teh giants opener and he is a beast. i'd take him on the jets anyday. But I love hill for his flat out scary speed. DBs play 10 yards off of him most plays. if they don't its becuase they have help. his speed makes defenses show their hand. no DB is gonna jam him if they don't have safety help.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 04:32 PM

View PostChaos, on 10 September 2012 - 01:19 PM, said:

Interesting blurb from an article:


http://www.nj.com/je..._has_built.html

The Jets scored 2 touchdowns after plays that Tebow ran. Maybe it's helping?


Really. You think after Tebow got off the field the defense was shook enough to let in 2 TDs. :hysterical:

Jets would of scored if Tebow never got in the game. It was just one of those games that almost everything they did work. Tebow was a non factor. I'm not even gonna give him credit for that onside kick recovery. Jets would of recover anyways.

At the rate the jets were scoring I would of never display the wildcat sunday. That's something you save for a close game. Now the book is out. I know they wanna rush to show it but sunday wasn't the day.

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 05:46 PM

the Jets are trying to invent a new style of offense with Tebow and Sanchez so until or if it starts to pay with points on the board its going to look clumsy at first but they are young guys and they can learn to make it work .
Not that I am for it but you have to give them a chance to make it mesh . I would rather see Tim play H back or even TE in the red zone.
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Posted 10 September 2012 - 08:27 PM

View Postreg83ny, on 10 September 2012 - 05:32 PM, said:

Really. You think after Tebow got off the field the defense was shook enough to let in 2 TDs. :hysterical:

Jets would of scored if Tebow never got in the game. It was just one of those games that almost everything they did work. Tebow was a non factor. I'm not even gonna give him credit for that onside kick recovery. Jets would of recover anyways.

At the rate the jets were scoring I would of never display the wildcat sunday. That's something you save for a close game. Now the book is out. I know they wanna rush to show it but sunday wasn't the day.


Not saying that the defense got scared. I'm saying that Tebow going in gave Sanchez and Sporano a extra minute to look over plays and figure what the next move way. If Tebow made a big gain or score? Great. If not, Sanchez got a breather, came out with a play, and did his thing.

It's a running theory, but the only excuse I can find that makes me deal with watching our starting QB run to the sidelines while he was balling on the field because the coaches want to play Jesus.
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Posted 11 September 2012 - 03:39 AM

So Sanchez what are your thoughts on the wildcat?

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