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JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 06:47 AM) hahahaha, it isnt European Football!
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:04 AM) Ive seen a lot of videos. Most countries go psycho over their soccer teams. Ive seen some serious very bloody beat downs. Fans stabbing the players and refs,etc. And they say we are bad in the U.S. not even close to that.
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:06 AM) I think one was in Africa....a fan stormed the field and was knifing everyone in sight after his team lost
ROBJETS Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:08 AM) Hell even in mma when the Brits come over they are all cocky as hell. Big time cocky like they are going to easily destroy everyone they face cocky.
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:36 AM) hahahaha
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:36 AM) damn Europeans!
JSOTF Icon : (26 March 2015 - 07:37 AM) They havent fucked with a disgruntled, lifelong Jets fan!!!
Smedsthejet Icon : (26 March 2015 - 02:49 PM) Got my tickets from Ticketmaster the day they went on general sale
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:33 AM) You guys get Bellator in London? http://www.bellator.com/schedule its on Spike tv free regular cable channel. in the U.S. and the prelims are free on http://www.spike.com/
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:37 AM) London is 4 hours ahead of east coast U.S. Bellator prelims are 7pm Friday night U.S. East Coast time and the main card is 9pm So just add 4 hours to that if you can catch either. Im sure you can catch a stream or use a U.S. VPN if you dont have access to Spike.com. You guys might get Bellator on another channel their just like with the UFC.
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:47 AM) Anyway only reason I mentioned it was because of your sense of humor. The last Bellator 134 was called the British Invasion. If you watch mma Might want to add this site to your favorites http://www.mmauk.net...y/bellatornews/
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:55 AM) There was one of those hour long shows about the upcoming event featuring the fighters the prior week to Bellator 134 and all 4 of the Brits were cocky as hell. Yelling "The British are coming!!!!"
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 02:57 AM) By the way 135 is tonight if you are interested. I used to watch pretty much all the televised mma now I stick with Bellator and UFC only
ROBJETS Icon : (27 March 2015 - 03:07 AM) that last link is a UK mma site. Only reason i added it. http://www.sherdog.com/ is pretty much the best mma site on the net for everything mma
JSOTF Icon : (27 March 2015 - 07:08 AM) I actually live in Germany
azjetfan Icon : (27 March 2015 - 09:08 PM) Just got done sitting in traffic for 3 hours in Louisville KY.
azjetfan Icon : (27 March 2015 - 09:09 PM) Unbelievably poor planning by the DOT.
santana Icon : (28 March 2015 - 05:48 PM) Favre on my TV selling shaving razors so I bought a years supply
azjetfan Icon : (30 March 2015 - 02:12 PM) Soooo has anyone had any experience with the new Sling Tv?
azjetfan Icon : (30 March 2015 - 02:13 PM) $20 a month gets you ESPN and 15 other channels.
azjetfan Icon : (30 March 2015 - 02:18 PM) All streamed.
santana Icon : (30 March 2015 - 02:57 PM) negative
santana Icon : (30 March 2015 - 02:58 PM) I'm a fan of the apple tv though. I just use a clients fios tv account to access the different services like watch espn
santana Icon : (30 March 2015 - 02:59 PM) i also have hbo go netflix amazon prime. with hd antennas i get the local channels as well.
azjetfan Icon : (30 March 2015 - 03:00 PM) I tried the watch ESPN ap but since I cancelled my DTV it said I needed a provider.
santana Icon : (30 March 2015 - 03:10 PM) yep need an account
santana Icon : (30 March 2015 - 03:11 PM) nbc sports app also works really well I airplay that to the appletv
azjetfan Icon : (30 March 2015 - 09:01 PM) Alright signed up for the sling TV bit.
azjetfan Icon : (30 March 2015 - 09:01 PM) Pretty cool so far.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 12:56 AM) mock drafts have mariota going to the jets and the rest seem to have no clue
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:25 AM) I think he will be gone before that
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:25 AM) Either someone will trade up or he will be taken by Titans or Redskins
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:58 PM) JEts are going to remain at florham park for training camp
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:58 PM) no cortland or hofstra
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:12 PM) Unless you guys are looking for internet tv alternatives to cable or satellite tv You are better off just buying a slingbox http://www.slingbox.com/
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:15 PM) I like Directv better but ine thing Dishnetwork has is an integrated slinbox into the Genie so it is far better receiver than Directv`s
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:18 PM) With a slingbox you can just login to Slingbox and you can watch every single channel you have at home with the same guide and remote. A Slingbox basically makes it as if you have a receiver anywhere in the world you have internet access. So you get every single channel that you get at home with all the functions. setting recordings, watch recorded shows,etc.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) Its not the same thing as Directv ans cable companies giving you access to certain channels by logging in our going to websites by logging in. You literally get every single channel from home anywhere as long as you have wifi or wired net. My cousin has a Slingbox hooked to his Directv receiver. Actually I mean hopper.....duhhhh Directv has the Genie. The Hopper has the integrated Slingbox...and thats hats the one cool thing about the Hopper not having to shell out the extra cash for a seaparate slingbox since its integrated with the Hopper
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:28 PM) Slingboxes are nice just not cheap
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 08:50 PM) :thud:
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:08 PM) I did away with paying over a hundred bucks a month. My DTV bill was crazy and even after I lowered my package to the minimum I was still paying way too much for something we really didn't use much
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) i do NetFlix and Sling TV.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) i was doing Hulu too but cancelled it
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 09:10 PM) I have $30 a month into my tv now. Locals with an HD antenna
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 11:46 PM) Word Hd antenna is real nice when you live close to a city. Here in nola everything comes in crisp and clear for a $6 antenna
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Young Qb Trend and why it is happening

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Posted 11 September 2012 - 12:52 PM

There is a lot of hype lately about all the young QBs in the league right now. A lot of it is because the most rookies ever started week one, but about half the teams in the league are starting QBs who are in the first four years of their career. I find a lot of the discussion to be less than credible as it centers around the idea teams are turning to younger QBs because that is what they want. Five or seix years ago there was a lot of talk about how the league needed an injection of talent at the position. Here are the top twenty-nine passers (attempts) in 2007:

Brees
Brady
Palmer
Hasselbeck
Kitna
Favre
Eli
Derek Anderson
Romo
Peyton
McNabb
Cutler
Rivers
Warner
Campbell
Roethlisburger
Young
Bulger
harrington
Huard
Garcia
Garrard
Cleo Lemon
Tavaris Jackson
Schuab
Boller
Edwards
Griese
Pennington

So, I bolded those guys who are still starting. That is a third of the list who still has a job. I also put in red those guys who are still playing. That is sixteen guys. That leaves thirteen players who aren't in the league anymore, and I'd say outside of Garcia, Pennington, Favre, Kitna and Warner the rest could still be considered playing age (maybe Garrard). What I take from this is that in 2007, there were a lot of shitty QBs in the NFL and now teams have turned to either better young QBs or the new shitty QB. Note that Leinart isn't on that list, as the Cardinals had already given up on him but should be thought of when considering bad QBs the league was leaning on at the time.
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Here is a blurb from Cleo Lemon's Wikipedia page:

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After a career as a backup, Lemon started the first regular season game of his career in the season finale against the Indianapolis Colts on December 31. Lemon played fairly well against the eventual Super Bowl champions, completing 18 of 36 passes for 210 yards, a touchdown and an interception. He also led the team to 10 fourth-quarter points as the Dolphins fell just short, losing 27-22.Lemon, who was a restricted free agent in the 2007 offseason, was tendered a one-year, $1.3 million contract by the Dolphins on March 3. He signed the tender on May 29. New head coachCam Cameron was offensive coordinator for the Chargers during Lemon's entire tenure there.


With Joey Harrington moving on to the Atlanta Falcons, Lemon became backup to the newly acquired Trent Green. With an injury to Green in Week 5, Lemon was named the starter for the Dolphins' away game against Cleveland. After shaking off some early rust, Lemon led the Dolphins to near victory against the Browns with several successful drives (including a drive where the Dolphins lost 20 yards on penalties that was capped with a 4th and 1 touchdown). Showing amazing determination, Lemon brought victory within their grasp, with his two touchdown rushes, two touchdown passes, and an impressive 107.3 QB rating, but the Dolphins' defense could not stop the Browns. His next start was in Miami's 49-28 loss to New England, going 24 for 37, with 1 rushing touchdown and 236 passing yards. But in Week 11, Lemon was replaced by rookie quarterback John Beck. Lemon was renamed the Dolphins' starting Quarterback in Week 15 against the Ravens. He threw a game-winning touchdown to Greg Camarillo in overtime to beat Baltimore 22-16, giving Miami their first (and only) win of the season.



I assume this was written by his mom, since "playing fairly well" is a 65 QB rating and he showed "amazing determination" in a loss against the Browns.
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Posted 11 September 2012 - 02:14 PM

I was blessed that my first live NFL experience was a titanic QB duel between Cleo Lemon and Eli Manning!

If you look at the list of QBs playing where those out the league used to start, it's remarkable how many are first rounders - Stafford, Ponder, Weeden, Gabbert, Ryan, Tannehill, Freeman, Sanchez, Flacco, Ryan, Bradford, Newton, Locker, Griffin, Luck... Add to that Tim Tebow, who was starter in Denver most of last season.
There seems to be a greater trend in favour of throwing first round picks in at the deep end, rather than have them sit and learn behind a steady veteran (your Jason Campbell-type QBs). You could argue that it's paid off to varying degrees for the Lions, Falcons, Ravens and Jets. The Bengals' even gambled on starting Dalton from the outset - it resulted in them reaching the playoffs last year, but was certainly a risk - while Russell Wilson is starting for the Seahawks over Matt Flynn, who was being tipped as the next Matt Schaub.
Teams certainly seem more willing to reach for a QB too, with players such as Ponder, Gabbert, Tannehill, Weeden and Locker all selected above where they arguably should have been.

One prediction I would make without looking at the evidence is that teams are no longer as interested in having a veteran backup, preferring instead to go with second or third year pros who were mid round selections. Can't be bothered to compare depth charts from this year and back in 2007 though!
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Posted 11 September 2012 - 02:43 PM

I think the trend in throwing guys out there is that a lot of the guys starting in the early part of the decades were scrubs. Harrington? Lemon? Huard? There isn't a lot of guys on that list that retired jest because of age. Favre, McNabb, Garcia, Warner. But mostly, the guys teams had starting before they started turning to younger guys were bums and busts. I really think teams have been forced into starting younger guys because a lot of guys taken before that were busts.

Its subjective, but I think if you compared the bust rate of QBs taken in the first round (or two) in the mid to late nineties and early part of this decade it is disproportional to the history of the NFL in general.
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