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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Today, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 08:57 PM

Anyone else kinda feeling like we should pay Revis?



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"Are you OK?" he said, trying to keep calm. "Are you OK?"
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 09:22 PM

HAHAHAHA

Me and my buddy text throughout the games and I told him in the 2nd Q "Revis is making his money this game. Tanny sees that our Top 5 defense is barely Top 20 without him".

BTW, a fried of mine was at Bounce (a pretty popular sports bar in NYC) during the game and Revis was there. He smoked up in the basement and then was hollarin at bitches. Like a BAWSE.
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 09:33 PM

View Postbluelinecop, on 16 September 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

Anyone else kinda feeling like we should pay Revis?



Soon?


Give him WHATEVER HE WANTS!!!
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 09:43 PM

View Postbluelinecop, on 16 September 2012 - 09:57 PM, said:

Anyone else kinda feeling like we should pay Revis?



Soon?



Well after today there is no doubt that the price just went up.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 10:16 PM

I always felt like we should pay Revis, hes our best player and changes everything on defense.
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 10:23 PM

My facebook lit up with "Pay Revis". Pretty funny.
Fifteen years ago after an especially disappointing loss to Miami, Esiason, then the Jets' quarterback, was making the seven-mile drive from the Meadowlands back to Manhattan.
While he was slogging through stop-and-go traffic at the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel, the car next to him was violently rear-ended. The quarterback threw his car into park, hopped out and ran to the woman whose car had been hit. She was wearing, of all things, an Esiason jersey, and was utterly shocked when he tapped on her window to check on her.
"Are you OK?" he said, trying to keep calm. "Are you OK?"
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Posted 16 September 2012 - 11:07 PM

I just wonder if Jets fans will feel the same way we feel right now next summer if there is a holdout. I can hear the "make the greedy bastard retire" comments already.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 12:24 AM

my whole twitter line was flooded wit this... even Roethlisberger was tryna be modest and give Cro some cred but u kno what he really wanted to say lol...
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 08:40 AM

I've never heard of a guy earning money when he's injured but yes please. After watching him play for the past few years, damn the pass D was atrocious yesterday.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 09:33 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 16 September 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

BTW, a fried of mine was at Bounce (a pretty popular sports bar in NYC) during the game and Revis was there. He smoked up in the basement and then was hollarin at bitches. Like a BAWSE.



Your friend is a lier - no way is Revis is at a bar smoking up in public during the Jets game.
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Posted 17 September 2012 - 03:18 PM

I missed the second half of the game yesterday and it looked like it was a good thing I did. (Had to take the wife out to dinner for our anniversary.)
Considering next year is the last year of his contract as long as he doesn't hold out, then yes, we pay the man. He'd be a complete IDIOT to hold out in the offseason. If he holds out, he's on the line for another 3 years. If he doesn't he's a free agent. There's no way he holds out.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 02:44 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 16 September 2012 - 10:22 PM, said:

HAHAHAHA
Tanny sees that our Top 5 defense is barely Top 20 without him".


I disagree with this 110% I dont know what game you were watching. The defense played really good. The defense pretty much shut down the run and the only reason the Steelers passing succeeded at all is because the jets pass rushers weren't able to bring Rapelesburger down. Its not like the the defense wasn't getting to him. He has always been hard to bring down and because of that he was able to extend the plays. Pretty much any decent qb can find an open receiver if the defense fails to bring the qb down no matter how good the secondary is.
The defense was getting to Ben and coverage was pretty good for the most part. If they weren't getting to Ben at all with no pass rush (like last years defensive line)then Id agree with you 110%.

Revis or not I still say we have a top ten defense.Revis isnt the whole defense and its not like Wilson was picked on all night so I dont understand the logic. Ben was throwing the ball everywhere.

Whether Revis was playing or not it wouldn't have made much of a difference if any. The core of any good defense is first the defensive line an second the ability of lb penetration the secondary is the last piece. You can have an average or shitty secondary but if the qb is under constant pressure,hits,and sack.

Roethlesbburger does take a lot of sacks but he is also maybe the best in the league at extending plays by slipping sack attemps.

Matt Ryan did the same thing tonight. He was under a lot of pressure all night but what makes him steller but is he is smart enough to know when to roll out and extend plays.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 07:01 AM

Ben vs our defense when Revis played in 2010

264 yards 52% 1 TD 0 INT 78 QB rating

133 yards 52% 0 TD 2 INT 35 QB rating


Without Revis this year

275 yards 77% 2 TD 0 INT 125 QB rating


Revis changes our coverage with his ability to take out a teams #1 WR by himself. If Revis was covering Wallace, that TD wouldn't have happened.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 08:18 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 18 September 2012 - 08:01 AM, said:

Ben vs our defense when Revis played in 2010

264 yards 52% 1 TD 0 INT 78 QB rating

133 yards 52% 0 TD 2 INT 35 QB rating


Without Revis this year

275 yards 77% 2 TD 0 INT 125 QB rating


Revis changes our coverage with his ability to take out a teams #1 WR by himself. If Revis was covering Wallace, that TD wouldn't have happened.

Totally Stupid comparison.
This isn't 2010 when the Jets were 11-5 with a top 3 running game and top 2 defense together.

You might as well just come up with stats from any year the defense was good if you are going to try to compare stats for 2012 to a totally different team.There were a lot of different players on the defense in 2010. Like only 4 to 5 starters at most from 2010 to now.

Jets were 17th in defense in 2011.No damn way Revis being in there is going magically a totally different defense become the top 2 defense in the NFL.You are taking to much stock in the Buffalo game.


And once again in 2011 Jets were 0-4 against teams with winning records
2 wins 3 losses against .500 teams
and 6 and 2 against sub .500 teams
All this equals a bad team in 2011 since the jets were only good against sub .500 teams.

Jets haven't proven shit yet except that they are better than most of the below .500 teams. Until they look at least halfway decent against a team with a winning record this year they aren't proving shit yet. Beating up on two shitty teams like Miami and Buffalo only proves the Jets aren't as bad as they are.Buffalo and Miami will probably be 6 win teams again this year. Once the Jets face the 49rs,Texans and Patriots we will see where the Jets really are.

I'm holding my judgement on this years team until I see the Jets play known good teams. Yeah there were drops against the Steelers but a measly 129 yards passing doesn't instill very much confidence in me.

Looking a lot like last year so far....

Against the four winning teams the jets faced in 2011 Jets scored
17,21,16,14

Against five .500 teams Jets scored
27,24,27,13,19

Basically To get past the 20 point mark the Jets need to face a .500 team and against a shitty team they put up 30+ last year......Same pattern so far in 2012
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 12:11 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 18 September 2012 - 02:44 AM, said:

Whether Revis was playing or not it wouldn't have made much of a difference if any. The core of any good defense is first the defensive line an second the ability of lb penetration the secondary is the last piece. You can have an average or shitty secondary but if the qb is under constant pressure,hits,and sack.


That's all well and good... except for the small fact that the Jets defense is built around the concept of Revis shutting down half of the field. Safeties could have rolled coverage to other players, an extra defender could be brought on the blitz, etc.

Saying he wouldn't have made much of a difference seems pretty far out there.


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Posted 18 September 2012 - 01:09 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 18 September 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

Totally Stupid comparison.
This isn't 2010 when the Jets were 11-5 with a top 3 running game and top 2 defense together.

You might as well just come up with stats from any year the defense was good if you are going to try to compare stats for 2012 to a totally different team.There were a lot of different players on the defense in 2010. Like only 4 to 5 starters at most from 2010 to now.

Jets were 17th in defense in 2011.No damn way Revis being in there is going magically a totally different defense become the top 2 defense in the NFL.You are taking to much stock in the Buffalo game.


And once again in 2011 Jets were 0-4 against teams with winning records
2 wins 3 losses against .500 teams
and 6 and 2 against sub .500 teams
All this equals a bad team in 2011 since the jets were only good against sub .500 teams.

Jets haven't proven shit yet except that they are better than most of the below .500 teams. Until they look at least halfway decent against a team with a winning record this year they aren't proving shit yet. Beating up on two shitty teams like Miami and Buffalo only proves the Jets aren't as bad as they are.Buffalo and Miami will probably be 6 win teams again this year. Once the Jets face the 49rs,Texans and Patriots we will see where the Jets really are.

I'm holding my judgement on this years team until I see the Jets play known good teams. Yeah there were drops against the Steelers but a measly 129 yards passing doesn't instill very much confidence in me.

Looking a lot like last year so far....

Against the four winning teams the jets faced in 2011 Jets scored
17,21,16,14

Against five .500 teams Jets scored
27,24,27,13,19

Basically To get past the 20 point mark the Jets need to face a .500 team and against a shitty team they put up 30+ last year......Same pattern so far in 2012



Yeah our defense isn't better without Revis... His ability to shutdown a teams top WR by himself, doesn't allow them to shift coverage to help others which in returns helps the entire defense. We don't have a great pass rusher, so we need to have excellent coverage from our DBs. Our defense couldn't get off the field vs the Steelers, they gave up way too many 3rd down conversions, despite shutting down the run, Steelers only had a 2.4 YPC average. Wallace and Brown had good games.

I don't know why you are bringing up the Bills game, no one else did. And if you don't want to base anything on previous seasons, why are you calling the Bills a trash team? They are 1-1 in 2012, we don't know who the top teams are yet if you want to base everything on this season. And what a waste of time it is to only care what we do vs teams over .500, first off we won't know who is above .500 after the season, some of our wins last season were when teams were above .500 but then fell to .500 or under after the season. I will enjoy each and every win, the Patriots had one win vs a team over .500 last season and that came in the playoffs, they also made it to the SB.

The Jets haven't proven shit yet? No kidding, its only been 2 weeks into the season. Idk what most of this has to do with Revis, which is what the topic is about. You make a comment about it not being 2010 anymore, but brought a lot about 2011 up. Fact is our pass defense is clearly better when Revis is on the field.
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Posted 18 September 2012 - 08:14 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 18 September 2012 - 02:09 PM, said:

You make a comment about it not being 2010 anymore, but brought a lot about 2011 up. Fact is our pass defense is clearly better when Revis is on the field.
Point taken.
First thing.... I never said the defense isn't better with Revis. That is a given. Revis is arguably the best defender in the NFL and if not he is definitely the best corner in the NFL by a mile. All Jets fans agree with this.

Next to clarify.. the only reason I brought up 2011 as a comparison is because most of the starters from 2011 are still starting in 2012 except for the safeties. Couples isn't an every down player yet so I'm not including him. After 2010 to 2011 a lot of starters were different.

Also I'm not saying the defense is bad either. I really think we have a top ten defense. I truly believe that the Jets shut down the defense in the Bills game and totally believe that is the only reason the Bills scored 28 and Spiller torched us. Also as I said in the other post I think the Jets defense played well against the Steelers and again I say the only reason Ben torched us was because we couldn't bring him down. If the majority of those hands laid on Ben resulted in sacks the game would have been a lot closer.

It wasn't the secondary or the linebackers getting torched which is why I dont think the game would have made a lot of difference with Revis in the game. There was a lot of one on one coverage and Wilson did pretty well. Ben was throwing the ball all over the field and Revis cant cover everyone. Not to mention a lot of the Steeler receptions were stellar catches.

Basically we may not have a stellar pass rush this year but we finally do have one and its been the first time in years (since Ellis started to degrade and Jenkins went down). The last two years we couldn't get to the opposing qb to save our asses and we had to pray the corners were shut down. I believed in the potential of the young defensive line from last year and figured they would be a lot better this year and now it is showing. The d-line just needs to make sure that the hands they lay on the qb result in sacks.

Ben is an anomaly with his body strength.He is the hardest qb in the league to bring down. If the d-line can pressure most qbs like that have the past two weeks then this defense will be nasty all year.

On the other side of the argument....The first two weeks the Jets give up 28 and 27 points. This has to stop. If our offense cant put up those kind of points consistently that is going to be a major problem.

Also I'm not blaming Sanchez for this game. I thought he did ok. Id like to review the game again to see if he was throwing the ball late but at first glance during the game I thought he played pretty well. Honestly as shitty as the offense was and with Mark only passing for 129 yards and one td I say he looked better in that bad loss than any game game win or loss last year. He looked pretty decisive to me and for me.

I'm one of the biggest (if not the biggest) critics of mark on the site because of the major flaws Ive seen in his game over the years but I really saw major improvement against the Steelers that I haven't seen from him before.

Basically I just say the offense just self destructed as a whole. No sense in pointing fingers at anyone on offense.

Even so with all that said our offense needs to look good against playoff teams from last year. Jets play five games this year against playoff teams from 2011.Im just throwing the Steelers game out as a whole team f*ck up. I'm totally looking past the Miami game totally no matter what happens. I do think the Jets have potential this year because of the defense being better but I'm reserving judgment until I see the jets play the other 3 playoff teams.

Theoretically the Jets could go 11-5 if they lost all five games to the four playoff teams from 2011 and won against all the other teams that fell short but I for one wouldn't feel very confident if the Jets went 11-5 and only won against teams with losing records.

I want to see more from this team to silence to questions to prove to everyone that we have a good team.
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 04:51 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 18 September 2012 - 02:44 AM, said:

I disagree with this 110% I dont know what game you were watching. The defense played really good. The defense pretty much shut down the run and the only reason the Steelers passing succeeded at all is because the jets pass rushers weren't able to bring Rapelesburger down. Its not like the the defense wasn't getting to him. He has always been hard to bring down and because of that he was able to extend the plays. Pretty much any decent qb can find an open receiver if the defense fails to bring the qb down no matter how good the secondary is.
The defense was getting to Ben and coverage was pretty good for the most part. If they weren't getting to Ben at all with no pass rush (like last years defensive line)then Id agree with you 110%.

Revis or not I still say we have a top ten defense.Revis isnt the whole defense and its not like Wilson was picked on all night so I dont understand the logic. Ben was throwing the ball everywhere.

Whether Revis was playing or not it wouldn't have made much of a difference if any. The core of any good defense is first the defensive line an second the ability of lb penetration the secondary is the last piece. You can have an average or shitty secondary but if the qb is under constant pressure,hits,and sack.

Roethlesbburger does take a lot of sacks but he is also maybe the best in the league at extending plays by slipping sack attemps.

Matt Ryan did the same thing tonight. He was under a lot of pressure all night but what makes him steller but is he is smart enough to know when to roll out and extend plays.

agree and also Rex has abandon the blitz which he must learn that he must still be Rex even with the horses we now have although young
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Posted 23 September 2012 - 09:07 PM

It may not matter now! I am no expert, but his knee injury didnt look good at all.
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