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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 03:34 PM

I have been out of the loop all week and kind of wanted to put all my thoughts togther in one post. So here goes, hope I dont bore the f*** out of all of you.

Jets, week 1. Defense looked really good when it mattered. Obviously I would have liked to see some better tackling in the second half, but overall, 3 takeaways that lead to scores is always a positive. I thought Sanchez looked SHARP. He made a brain fart (actually 2) on his flip off the shoulder pad that was picked. But he looked comfortable with the offense. He was desisive with the ball, and made good reads of the defense. I was not particularly happy about the excessive ammount of Tebow snaps, but all in all, I thought it was a good gameplan that was executed well. On to the Steelers.....

I thought the Jets didnt play all that poorly. Yes, there was some bad tackling of Ben, but overall not bad considering Revis was out. I gotta say this though, we couldnt get our defense off the field in the second half. Our D made 2 stops and forced Pit to go 3 and out, but otherwise, that last 14 play drive, was horrnedous. The Jets defense was holding and holding and then 1st down. all the way through the drive. If we could have tackled Ben on our 5 or 6 shots at him, we may have had a better chance. Also, there was the run, where Landry I believe ripped the ball out of the RB, was challenged and not reversed (actually thought he did rip it out, but his knee was down for a 3 yard loss prior to that play. I thought the refs missed both calls there)

I was a little pissed off though at our lack of confidence of our offense at the end of the half. We had a decent kick return, to the Jets 32, 2 timeouts, and we ran once, and then we took a knee to run out the half. I am not going to say that caused us the game, but I do believe that was an opportunity to at least even bring in Tebow, maybe try a type of run/pass to see if we can catch Pit sleeping. It almost seems like in the first game, the use of Tebow was somewhat of a hinderence to Sanchez good play, but in the second game, where it may have been helpfull (I believe there were 2 plays with Tebow at QB) one was that long run and the other was a 9 yard run I believe. (I am not calling for Tebow to come in and play in place of Sanchez, and I understand that hindsite is always easier than real time)

Now on Sanchez's behalf, I thought the recievers dropped about 4 or 5 balls. I believe the deep pass to Hill, should have been caught, I think as Hill gets his feeling for the NFL defenders better, he can realize he could outjump the cb or safety that came over and caused him to drop it. (There was contact before the catch, Hills hand was smacked by the defender) Point being, it could have easily been a score. Holmes dropped a few, and the TE (Cumberland I think) didnt pick up on Sanchezs autible an a 3rd down, where maybe Keller does and we get a first down. But he did not make those bonehead throws that he did very frequently under Shitty.

So, all in all, I think we are a better team than all these 'analysts' are giving us credit for. You add Revis to the mix, he probably takes 100 passing yards away from the Steelers alone. The interior D held the Steelers Run game to a 2.4 YPC, not bad at all, and a huge improvement from the run D in week 1.

So, fire away!
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Posted 19 September 2012 - 04:49 PM

I know its early in the week and betting line movements aren't nearly as accurate this early in the season, put already 72% of public on jets. Jets started at -3 and the line has already fallen to -1. Prepare your self, with that kind of line movement this early...not looking good. And if thats the case, prepare for more of these analysts to crap on the jets. Dammit dammit....week 3 loss to the dolphins for first place would be terrible.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 12:26 AM

View PostJSOTF, on 19 September 2012 - 03:34 PM, said:

I have been out of the loop all week and kind of wanted to put all my thoughts togther in one post. So here goes, hope I dont bore the f*** out of all of you.

Jets, week 1. Defense looked really good when it mattered. Obviously I would have liked to see some better tackling in the second half, but overall, 3 takeaways that lead to scores is always a positive. I thought Sanchez looked SHARP. He made a brain fart (actually 2) on his flip off the shoulder pad that was picked. But he looked comfortable with the offense. He was desisive with the ball, and made good reads of the defense. I was not particularly happy about the excessive ammount of Tebow snaps, but all in all, I thought it was a good gameplan that was executed well. On to the Steelers.....

I thought the Jets didnt play all that poorly. Yes, there was some bad tackling of Ben, but overall not bad considering Revis was out. I gotta say this though, we couldnt get our defense off the field in the second half. Our D made 2 stops and forced Pit to go 3 and out, but otherwise, that last 14 play drive, was horrnedous. The Jets defense was holding and holding and then 1st down. all the way through the drive. If we could have tackled Ben on our 5 or 6 shots at him, we may have had a better chance. Also, there was the run, where Landry I believe ripped the ball out of the RB, was challenged and not reversed (actually thought he did rip it out, but his knee was down for a 3 yard loss prior to that play. I thought the refs missed both calls there)

I was a little pissed off though at our lack of confidence of our offense at the end of the half. We had a decent kick return, to the Jets 32, 2 timeouts, and we ran once, and then we took a knee to run out the half. I am not going to say that caused us the game, but I do believe that was an opportunity to at least even bring in Tebow, maybe try a type of run/pass to see if we can catch Pit sleeping. It almost seems like in the first game, the use of Tebow was somewhat of a hinderence to Sanchez good play, but in the second game, where it may have been helpfull (I believe there were 2 plays with Tebow at QB) one was that long run and the other was a 9 yard run I believe. (I am not calling for Tebow to come in and play in place of Sanchez, and I understand that hindsite is always easier than real time)

Now on Sanchez's behalf, I thought the recievers dropped about 4 or 5 balls. I believe the deep pass to Hill, should have been caught, I think as Hill gets his feeling for the NFL defenders better, he can realize he could outjump the cb or safety that came over and caused him to drop it. (There was contact before the catch, Hills hand was smacked by the defender) Point being, it could have easily been a score. Holmes dropped a few, and the TE (Cumberland I think) didnt pick up on Sanchezs autible an a 3rd down, where maybe Keller does and we get a first down. But he did not make those bonehead throws that he did very frequently under Shitty.

So, all in all, I think we are a better team than all these 'analysts' are giving us credit for. You add Revis to the mix, he probably takes 100 passing yards away from the Steelers alone. The interior D held the Steelers Run game to a 2.4 YPC, not bad at all, and a huge improvement from the run D in week 1.

So, fire away!


I haven't heard a lot of talk about that, but it was something that upset me at the time. We have receivers capable of hitting some big gains, but we don't even take a shot or two at midfield to see if we can get into position? I was disappointed.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 09:57 AM

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I agree. I like the chances we have with Hill. I think we should have at least taken a deep shot on 1st down. I understand the call because you dont want to turn the ball over there and give Pit a chance to add a quick score. But this year we have thrown the ball deep more than we did last year with Shitty. I also think we could have at least tried for a FG, maybe help get Sanchez into rythem.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:05 AM

Yes sitting with basically 2 min and 2 TOs, we packed it in for no good reason. The analysts praised it reminding the viewer that Sanchez fumbled right before the half against Pittsburgh in 2010... like that shit matters. When we run our no huddle, our offense clicks as good as any offense. We have 2 slot recievers (Tone and Kerley) as well as a guy that can go deep. Why we packed it in at the half and wasted that 1:48 (and ate the 2 TOs) is beyond me.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:50 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 20 September 2012 - 09:05 AM, said:

Yes sitting with basically 2 min and 2 TOs, we packed it in for no good reason. The analysts praised it reminding the viewer that Sanchez fumbled right before the half against Pittsburgh in 2010... like that shit matters. When we run our no huddle, our offense clicks as good as any offense. We have 2 slot recievers (Tone and Kerley) as well as a guy that can go deep. Why we packed it in at the half and wasted that 1:48 (and ate the 2 TOs) is beyond me.


Didnt the comentator say after the return, the Jets got good field position off that return? Remind you, Sanchez started the game hot, and really just needed to be able to find that rythem again. I really think Sanchez is playing much better than he has in the previous years. His QBR is up and he looks to have a better feel of the gameplan. I wish we would have at least tried a deep pass. to see if we could get downfield into fieldgoal range.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 10:58 AM

Sanchez is playing noticeably better and he should have had a much better game on Sunday had our WRs actually held on to the ball. Once Keller comes back, I expect Sanchez to take off.
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