[EliteJets]

Sucks so bad...he couldn't catch a cold butt naked in alaska in the dead of winter!

[SecondHandJets]

GTFO n00b.

[azjetfan]

Week one Hill was very aggresive. He was hitting CBs and getting good releases and catching the ball. The past two weeks have been the opposite. I am not sure why but he has been playing softer. Maybe bringing in a guy like Ocho or TO would put some fire under his belt.

[SecondHandJets]

We'll probably bring Turner back for next week. Doubt Hill plays vs the 9ers.

[HarlemHxC814]

not done with the site yet?

[EliteJets]

lenny how funny is pooter.. this site has no traffic or action.. i come to talk about how bad stephen hill is.. and instead of good Jets banter, he tries to make a joke?? fuckin donkey!!

Hill has never caught a pass with his hands.. he is a body catcher and not a good 1 at that!

[HarlemHxC814]

Lol

[ROBJETS]

Its not all the receivers fault. Some of the balls thrown to them are over thrown, behind them, and when a defender is draped on them.

basically its a combination of Mark and the receivers. We may not have elite receivers but they aren't bad. The top qbs put the ball in the receivers chest or where only the receiver can get the ball. Mark isn't doing this for the most part because of bad accuracy.Some balls are being over thrown,behind the receivers, and with a defender draped on them

Like I said its a combination of problems. If every ball they dropped were in their chest with great accuracy and they were wide open every time Id be on them like a mofo. Yeah some of the drops the receivers were wide open but most of the balls weren't thrown to the right area.

For instance....when Mark threw to Tebow......the ball should have been thrown in front of Tebow but it was thrown to the back of Tebow`s helmet. Whether Tebow looked in time or not very few receivers could have torqued there body back to make the catch. It isn't an impossible catch but a highly unlikely catch for any receiver.

Another one was the throw to Powell across the middle. It want an impossible catch either but the ball was thrown behind Powell enough that it would have been very hard for him to make the catch.

Basically it would be great if all our receivers had hands and unbelievable athletic receiver abilities to catch almost any ball in their area like Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, Andre Johnson, and Larry Fitzgerald but we don't so Mark has to put the ball in the right spot more.


So no its not all Hill`s and the other receivers fault. A lot of it is on Mark too.

[V DidDy 210]

seriously though, what has happened to the site? it used to be way more active (especially during the season) then it has been lately...

...something I miss being deployed?

[Mr_Jet]

I don't get this complaining about lack of site traffic. It's simple if you want more traffic then post more. And really (at least for me) if somebody has already posted something I already agree with I usually don't make a post of my own. What I would've said has already been said. Plus if the title of a topic doesn't look interesting, I don't click on it. I don't always read every topic.

I will say this about Stephen Hill though. I think we should remember that he is still just a rookie and he's only played 3 games in his career so far. I know he had an awesome debut, but again he's still a rookie and he still has a lot to learn and needs more NFL experience.

[SecondHandJets]

ROBJETS, on 24 September 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

Its not all the receivers fault. Some of the balls thrown to them are over thrown, behind them, and when a defender is draped on them.

I really don't understand why people claim this. Mark has been pretty damn good so far. The "overthrows" that everyone talks about from yesterday are a little concerning... because out of the 4 that I remember, only 1 was on Sanchez.

1. The "overthrow" in the endzone. This occured because Sanchez was hit and was falling on his ass. He was throwing the ball away to avoid the sack. Yes the TE was wide open... that's because the Fins sent the house. The rushers got there before Sanchez had a chance to release the ball. Calling that an overthrow is crazy. He did what he's suppose to do, avoid the sack. Yes, he did tried to get the ball to the TE, but that pass had no shot simply because Mark was going down at the time of release.

2. The deep ball to Hill. People are calling this an overthrow because Hill was wide open... I don't know why people don't want to admit that Hill pulled up IMMEDIATELY after the double-move because he hurt his hammy and ran the rest of the pattern at about 3/4 speed. Sanchez had already let the ball fly and Hill had no shot at that one.

3. The shallow ball to Hill. This was the play immediately following the deep throw and Hill's hamstring was tightening up on him. He took himself out of the game immediately after this play and didn't return.

4. The Schillens deep throw. This was all on Sanchez. He mistimed the speed with which Schillens made his move. This has everything to do with the fact that Schillens had missed all of preseason and him and Mark have zero chemistry.

All in all, I counted 9 legit drops where Sanchez put the ball on the hands of the would be reciever. I'm excluding the Tebow drop because that was just too funny.

[gmany3k]

ROBJETS, on 24 September 2012 - 02:15 PM, said:

Its not all the receivers fault. Some of the balls thrown to them are over thrown, behind them, and when a defender is draped on them.

basically its a combination of Mark and the receivers. We may not have elite receivers but they aren't bad. The top qbs put the ball in the receivers chest or where only the receiver can get the ball. Mark isn't doing this for the most part because of bad accuracy.Some balls are being over thrown,behind the receivers, and with a defender draped on them

Like I said its a combination of problems. If every ball they dropped were in their chest with great accuracy and they were wide open every time Id be on them like a mofo. Yeah some of the drops the receivers were wide open but most of the balls weren't thrown to the right area.

For instance....when Mark threw to Tebow......the ball should have been thrown in front of Tebow but it was thrown to the back of Tebow`s helmet. Whether Tebow looked in time or not very few receivers could have torqued there body back to make the catch. It isn't an impossible catch but a highly unlikely catch for any receiver.

Another one was the throw to Powell across the middle. It want an impossible catch either but the ball was thrown behind Powell enough that it would have been very hard for him to make the catch.

Basically it would be great if all our receivers had hands and unbelievable athletic receiver abilities to catch almost any ball in their area like Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, Andre Johnson, and Larry Fitzgerald but we don't so Mark has to put the ball in the right spot more.


So no its not all Hill`s and the other receivers fault. A lot of it is on Mark too.

oh you are right and they know it but it shows how hard it is to perform this dance we call offense. but if Manning came to town he would have changed the whole culture something that i am afraid that mark will never be that guy.

[Jetsman05]

ROBJETS, on 24 September 2012 - 03:15 PM, said:

Its not all the receivers fault. Some of the balls thrown to them are over thrown, behind them, and when a defender is draped on them.

basically its a combination of Mark and the receivers. We may not have elite receivers but they aren't bad. The top qbs put the ball in the receivers chest or where only the receiver can get the ball. Mark isn't doing this for the most part because of bad accuracy.Some balls are being over thrown,behind the receivers, and with a defender draped on them

Like I said its a combination of problems. If every ball they dropped were in their chest with great accuracy and they were wide open every time Id be on them like a mofo. Yeah some of the drops the receivers were wide open but most of the balls weren't thrown to the right area.

Holy shit.

You made your point. Once is enough.

[Tebow15]

A guy who was recruited to be a wing option wr is a body catcher? no way! Jets shoulda known what they were getting into. only difference from week one and the other past 2 games is that he was able to trap the ball against his shoulder pads and now the ball isnt bouncing his way when he tries to trap it. he is 6'4" but his height means nothing because he cannot reach up and catch the ball with his hands so he might as well be 5'11" cus if the ball isnt at his chest he has no chance, and even then its the luck of the bounce of the shoulder pads.

P.S. I stopped posting and there is less traffic, coincidence? just something to think about

[arizonaJETSfan]

how many rookie WR's step on the field and are Elite? Ya, lets let the kid LEARN & grow b4 we hang a bust around his neck. Dam people 2 fast to kill someone b4 they have a chance to LEARN something!

[Jetsfan0099]

arizonaJETSfan, on 24 September 2012 - 10:47 PM, said:

how many rookie WR's step on the field and are Elite? Ya, lets let the kid LEARN & grow b4 we hang a bust around his neck. Dam people 2 fast to kill someone b4 they have a chance to LEARN something!

True, but the Jets need Hill to step up more. Hes not a natural pass catcher, which has hurt us so far. His drop in the endzone yesterday was awful, can you at least make the easy TD grab? That would have made his day not be as bad.

[arizonaJETSfan]

I understand what you mean, but while we may WANT them to be better, like our kids, we have to let em grow as best they can. I WISH he was sticky hands, but lets not forget a certain diva WR that dropped a WIDE OPEN all alone in the end zone pass that HAS been in the league a while. Lets face it, now that I think of it....that same diva has made a couple pinkie nail catches...but drops shyt that hit HIM in the hands to.

[S-Dubb]

end of the day he's young and came from a triple option offense in college where he wasn't throw at as much. Good thing about Hill and the drops is they can be corrected by hitting the jugs. He gets a pass from me this year.