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HarlemHxC814 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:44 PM) Throw in Ivory/Powell or a pick
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Damn they got Shady
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Do NOT give up Ivory
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:45 PM) Powell ok Ivory HELL NO
ganggreen2003 Icon : (03 March 2015 - 07:50 PM) Well that definitely opens the door for CJ Spiller to the JETS now that the Jills got Shady
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:12 AM) Spiller is a joke. 99 % of the time he gets tackled for a loss or a 1 or 2 yard gain maximum. He breaks a run here and there. he had one good year in his whole career. their is a reason he is a backup and not the starter. I suggest you guys that believe Spiller has anything to offer go through the play by play game logs. I did and he is horrendous.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:14 AM) Spiller cannot break a tackle period. I broke down last years game logs of his runs in a thread last year. He isn't even a pass catching rb. Fred Jackson catches most of the running back passes.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 AM) Unless Spiller comes tremendously cheap no thank you. Wouldn't pay more than a one year deal worth 1 million at most. All he has is speed. Not even on Sproles level. His stats are inflated. For instance he has 10 runs in a game and 9 of them are losses are or 1-2 yard runs. Then he breaks one on the outside for 40-70 yards. Not reliable at all. Even when he break one he is guaranteed a td
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:21 AM) Even in his 1200 yard rushing year he only had 6 tds rushing and 2 receiving
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:23 AM) Spiller is only valuable as a special teams player. Period By year 2010 ) tds rshng 1 rcvng 283 yards rshng
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:31 AM) meant 0 tds rushing in 2010, 2011 4 tds 561 yards rushing 2tds receiving, 2012 6tds 1244 rushing 2 tds receiving, 2013 2tds 933 yards rushing 0tds receiving, 2014 0tds 300 yards rushing 1td receiving.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:41 AM) His stats look decent on paper but if you actually go through the game logs of his career like I did his stats are extremely inflated. For instance one game last year he had 10 attempts for 8 yards another 4 attempts for -4 yards, another 6 attempts for 19 yards, another 10 attempts for 25 yards.Another game he had 12 games for 69 yards but 47 of it was on one play. Point is he sucks as a running back. Who wants a rb that gets stopped 99% of the time and breaks one play fir a long run. We need reliable backs not a slim chance of him breaking one
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:06 AM) "NFL released its first 2015 League Year cap report to teams. Teams w/most room: 1) Jaguars $64.058M; 2) Jets $52.901; 3) Raiders $52.598M."
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:06 AM) #2 baby
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santana Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 AM) thnx idzik
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:09 AM) RE-HIRE IDZIK
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:10 AM) Well in all fairness, when I think about the Jets I do think about number two
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:30 AM) FIRE MACCAGNAN
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:30 AM) The Jaguars hired John Idzik for his expertise in contract negotiating
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:36 AM) ppl are going to get paid this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:36 AM) so many teams have space
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 08:39 AM) eagles have 48M in cap space. Chip is going to go HAM this offseason.
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 12:35 PM) @RapSheet: The #Bills have traded for Matt Cassel, the team announced.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:43 PM) rex is gearing up his team
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:43 PM) a QB that won't turn it over. 2 stud Rbs for ground and pound and will now start building his defense
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) McCoys agent said the trade is not final and he hinted that he may not be willing to play there.
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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:18 PM) Jets bringing in Kendall Langford and CHris Canty for visits
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 05:20 PM) Cassel blows
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:07 PM) I wouldn't mind trading down personally
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 09:48 AM) Vince Wilfork will be a FA. Pats will not pick up his $8 million option. Looks like they are gearing up to keep Revis.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 11:35 AM) Bears shopping Marshall for a mid round pick
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 12:31 PM) What does his contract look like? Offer a 7th conditional 6th if we do something if the $$s are right.
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 12:37 PM) He is almost due 9.6 million this year and has 2 years left. He is defiantly better than Harvin although a little older @ 30
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:55 PM) I'd rather sign Maclin or Cobb and then draft a WR early
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 02:55 PM) I am not real big on Cobb. I think he is a poor mans Harvin. Living in WI I watch most Packer games. He does have talent and he is a good receiver but without Rogers he will not be very good.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 03:27 PM) looks like David Harris will go to the Bills, and I'm fine with that. Hes getting older and declining.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:56 PM) i guess davis takes the MLB spot then pace on one side. who is on the other? barnes
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:56 PM) babin maybe?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 03:57 PM) coples moves to DE, richardson to DT, snacks at DT and wilk at DE
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 03:59 PM) its too early to tell. Our roster is not anywhere near where it will be come opening day.
azjetfan Icon : (Today, 04:00 PM) Couples has had the most success when he was in a 4 man front though.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 04:19 PM) no
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Should We Go Back To The 4-3?

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 08:59 PM

The whole concept behind the 3-4, is that the defense doesn't know where the 4th rusher is coming from. When you have a stud OLB, that makes a ton of sense and puts a lot of pressure on the OL. When your best OLB is Calvin Pace? The 3-4 becomes a liability. Not only are we sending 4 guys, but because our 4 guys are not getting there, we often have to send 5 guys... which backfires more often than not as our 5 man rush is still not getting to the QBs.

Looking at our DL, we have 2 guys who can be good 4-3 DEs and defeat one on one matchups (Wilk and Coples). Then we have a bevy of big bodies (DeVito, Ellis, Pouha) that can rotate on the interior. Our LBs at this point don't fit either the 3-4 or the 4-3 but DeMario Davis and Maybin both have the speed to seal the edges. Harris and Scott can rotate in and out and BT and Pace would rotate on the DL as DEs half the time.

I don't think this is suddenly going to transform our front 7 into a terrifying passrush, but what it would do is set the front 7 in a constant mode and put our best players (the DEs) in one on one matchups. The biggest issues I've seen so far on our defense, is that all too many times, OLs get to our LBers so I think that the real difference will be the run defense. Our DL is stout, with an extra body on the line, it will be downright immovable. The LBers will be free to hit the holes and make tackles at the LOS.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:16 PM

The Jets have been playing 4 man fronts most of the time with McIntyre and Wilkerson at DE, Devito and Pouha at DT. We need Coples and Davis to start getting playing time.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 09:05 AM

Yea we already play a ton of 4 man fronts. Probably 50/50 3-4 4-3.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 10:58 AM

even when we are in a 3-4 we still have the 4th on the line. He is just standing up. I think the league is just catching up to what Rex likes to do much the they have caught up with the Packers Offense. Bottom line is we need to score more points on a more regular basis.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 03:50 PM

I trust our DLine players to do whatever is asked of them, I'm more hesitant to trust our LBs and CBs now. Cro should still go up against the guys he matches up well against, but I don't think we are going to view Wilson as a player that should be on the team now that he has to play against starting caliber receivers every week. I'm definitely interested to see who performs and who doesn't on this defense over the next two months.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 04:43 PM

" The whole concept behind the 3-4, is that the defense doesn't know where the 4th rusher is coming from." than this must be the problem lol.
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:17 PM

I've always preferred the 4-3 to the 3-4. I've been wanting the Jets to go back to it for a while now.
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