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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
SokeSleezy Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Geno's needs to work on his accuracy,Stafford gonna kill us next week smh
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) Yeah gonna go with a good old f*** Geno this week. He is still playing better than last year though
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:46 PM) People saying Sanchez sucks keep in mind he never had a chance to play in morningwegs system. He was held back by shottenheimer
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:47 PM) This team will never have a franchise QB. We can't draft them and when we sign or trade for them, they're past their primes.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) jets werent fixing him
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:47 PM) King mo says he's ok, injury is minor
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 09:21 AM) As a guy who has been on this site since its inception and is still not a moderator which I guess is cause I'm not part of the rat pack who runs this joint I think GENO should still be the starter.
mgjetman Icon : (Today, 10:19 AM) We still could have won this game with the bad calls. Geno just sucks. All the pick six's, missing wide open receivers, bad throws when they are fought. Stupid trick plays because they don't trust him.
santana Icon : (Today, 10:31 AM) I don't get his decision making
santana Icon : (Today, 10:32 AM) There were another 2-3 ints the bears were gifted but were dropped
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) f***
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) I had a blast at the game... just sucks we lost
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) 1-3 when I go se them
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:32 AM) Refs fucked up the fumble for a TD. by calling it down the first time everyone in the stadium saw it as a fumble
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) they need to just let them plays play out because they now look at every turnover
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) If hes down they could just overturn it on the replay
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) f*** Holmes to
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) gg2003 you want to be a mod?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) You have to go through your initiation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) Gg03 would be a terrif
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) what is the "initiation"
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:47 PM) :zz:
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:53 PM) and no I will not say that Idzik needs to be canned cause he doesn't
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:54 PM) he just needs to find talent at the CB and WR positions while also improving in positions that are currently our strengths like DL and OL
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Should We Go Back To The 4-3?

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Posted 24 September 2012 - 08:59 PM

The whole concept behind the 3-4, is that the defense doesn't know where the 4th rusher is coming from. When you have a stud OLB, that makes a ton of sense and puts a lot of pressure on the OL. When your best OLB is Calvin Pace? The 3-4 becomes a liability. Not only are we sending 4 guys, but because our 4 guys are not getting there, we often have to send 5 guys... which backfires more often than not as our 5 man rush is still not getting to the QBs.

Looking at our DL, we have 2 guys who can be good 4-3 DEs and defeat one on one matchups (Wilk and Coples). Then we have a bevy of big bodies (DeVito, Ellis, Pouha) that can rotate on the interior. Our LBs at this point don't fit either the 3-4 or the 4-3 but DeMario Davis and Maybin both have the speed to seal the edges. Harris and Scott can rotate in and out and BT and Pace would rotate on the DL as DEs half the time.

I don't think this is suddenly going to transform our front 7 into a terrifying passrush, but what it would do is set the front 7 in a constant mode and put our best players (the DEs) in one on one matchups. The biggest issues I've seen so far on our defense, is that all too many times, OLs get to our LBers so I think that the real difference will be the run defense. Our DL is stout, with an extra body on the line, it will be downright immovable. The LBers will be free to hit the holes and make tackles at the LOS.
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Posted 24 September 2012 - 10:16 PM

The Jets have been playing 4 man fronts most of the time with McIntyre and Wilkerson at DE, Devito and Pouha at DT. We need Coples and Davis to start getting playing time.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 09:05 AM

Yea we already play a ton of 4 man fronts. Probably 50/50 3-4 4-3.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 10:58 AM

even when we are in a 3-4 we still have the 4th on the line. He is just standing up. I think the league is just catching up to what Rex likes to do much the they have caught up with the Packers Offense. Bottom line is we need to score more points on a more regular basis.
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Posted 25 September 2012 - 03:50 PM

I trust our DLine players to do whatever is asked of them, I'm more hesitant to trust our LBs and CBs now. Cro should still go up against the guys he matches up well against, but I don't think we are going to view Wilson as a player that should be on the team now that he has to play against starting caliber receivers every week. I'm definitely interested to see who performs and who doesn't on this defense over the next two months.
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Posted 27 September 2012 - 04:43 PM

" The whole concept behind the 3-4, is that the defense doesn't know where the 4th rusher is coming from." than this must be the problem lol.
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Posted 28 September 2012 - 05:17 PM

I've always preferred the 4-3 to the 3-4. I've been wanting the Jets to go back to it for a while now.
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