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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:23 AM) preseason or not, our offense hasn't looked competent in a while like it does this year. our rushing attack should be very good. Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory could be a dynamic duo
santana Icon : (Today, 10:14 AM) http://youtu.be/2X0H709cJkA
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 04:54 PM

It's not Rex's fault that Tannenbaum put this team together that couldn't score a TD on the Harlem Jets. It'll be unfortunate if Rex get the brunt of the blame for this due to that.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 05:29 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 30 September 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

lets summarize
So you are saying you are using what others say against me?
Do you think Ryan has the final say in the draft?
Most importantly do you think we have all the pieces we need?


I never said that. You are assuming. I am saying I am not going to tell you your opinion is wrong but it is just an opinion much like mine.


Yes, when you make the same excuses for Ryan others do, I hold that against you. Not that others are saying it, but I answer your excuses the same way I do others.

No, but he is the Head Coach and I don't think it is this Ryan-has-no-control attitude that people use to excuse him from being part of how little this talent has. I would fairly bet that a defensive player hasn't been chosen in recent years that Ryan was against and I doubt he wasn't in on major offensive decisions like drafting Sanchez and Greene. I'm pretty sure my being putting blame on him for the roster is more realistic than "he only got to take Conner."

No, but I believe that Ryan is part of that and it is his job to produce. The team has gotten less talented since he was hired. Maybe Tanny just got lucky his first few seasons, maybe there were people that were with the organization prior to him that aided in drafting better than the people there now, but it doesn't change the fact that the team has gotten less talented and has produce drastically less while Ryan has been a Head Coach.

So you just made a pointless statement, sorry I interpreted it as having meaning. I also think it is fine for you to have an opinion.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:09 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 30 September 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Yes, when you make the same excuses for Ryan others do, I hold that against you. Not that others are saying it, but I answer your excuses the same way I do others.

There is a difference between excuses and results. The result of him not having talent is what we saw today. An excuse would be if there wasn't a legit reason like we had the talent or if we could show he was responsible for lack od talent. Unfortunatly we can't.

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No, but he is the Head Coach and I don't think it is this Ryan-has-no-control attitude that people use to excuse him from being part of how little this talent has. I would fairly bet that a defensive player hasn't been chosen in recent years that Ryan was against and I doubt he wasn't in on major offensive decisions like drafting Sanchez and Greene. I'm pretty sure my being putting blame on him for the roster is more realistic than "he only got to take Conner."

Like I said I believe he has input and I am sure it is considered heavily. However I doubt he would have drafted 70% of the guys we have on the team if he ws in charge.

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No, but I believe that Ryan is part of that and it is his job to produce. The team has gotten less talented since he was hired. Maybe Tanny just got lucky his first few seasons, maybe there were people that were with the organization prior to him that aided in drafting better than the people there now, but it doesn't change the fact that the team has gotten less talented and has produce drastically less while Ryan has been a Head Coach.So you just made a pointless statement, sorry I interpreted it as having meaning. I also think it is fine for you to have an opinion.


Thats alot of maybes.
Pointless? No it was not. I was acknowledging your point of view. Reasonable people do that to show they understand the others point of view. As far as Its the HCs job to produce statement. I feel that is a bit short sighted. You have a point about we do not know why the talent has declined. Personally I think it is because of how Tanny has handled the cap. We have over paid Pace, Thomas, Holmes ect.. leaving us no money to improve via FA. Couple that with lackluster drafts and here we are. If you want to say that is because of Ryan not developing players, That is your point of view.
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