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MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
santana Icon : (Today, 08:08 PM) THE CAPS
santana Icon : (Today, 08:28 PM) RIOT
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 08:37 PM) Missouri edge rusher Shane Ray was arrested Monday morning for possession of marijuana in Cooper County, Missouri, Brandon Kiley of KTGR in Columbia, Missouri reports.
santana Icon : (Today, 09:16 PM) Fuck the rangers!
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 04:54 PM

It's not Rex's fault that Tannenbaum put this team together that couldn't score a TD on the Harlem Jets. It'll be unfortunate if Rex get the brunt of the blame for this due to that.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 05:29 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 30 September 2012 - 04:43 PM, said:

lets summarize
So you are saying you are using what others say against me?
Do you think Ryan has the final say in the draft?
Most importantly do you think we have all the pieces we need?


I never said that. You are assuming. I am saying I am not going to tell you your opinion is wrong but it is just an opinion much like mine.


Yes, when you make the same excuses for Ryan others do, I hold that against you. Not that others are saying it, but I answer your excuses the same way I do others.

No, but he is the Head Coach and I don't think it is this Ryan-has-no-control attitude that people use to excuse him from being part of how little this talent has. I would fairly bet that a defensive player hasn't been chosen in recent years that Ryan was against and I doubt he wasn't in on major offensive decisions like drafting Sanchez and Greene. I'm pretty sure my being putting blame on him for the roster is more realistic than "he only got to take Conner."

No, but I believe that Ryan is part of that and it is his job to produce. The team has gotten less talented since he was hired. Maybe Tanny just got lucky his first few seasons, maybe there were people that were with the organization prior to him that aided in drafting better than the people there now, but it doesn't change the fact that the team has gotten less talented and has produce drastically less while Ryan has been a Head Coach.

So you just made a pointless statement, sorry I interpreted it as having meaning. I also think it is fine for you to have an opinion.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 06:09 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 30 September 2012 - 05:29 PM, said:

Yes, when you make the same excuses for Ryan others do, I hold that against you. Not that others are saying it, but I answer your excuses the same way I do others.

There is a difference between excuses and results. The result of him not having talent is what we saw today. An excuse would be if there wasn't a legit reason like we had the talent or if we could show he was responsible for lack od talent. Unfortunatly we can't.

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No, but he is the Head Coach and I don't think it is this Ryan-has-no-control attitude that people use to excuse him from being part of how little this talent has. I would fairly bet that a defensive player hasn't been chosen in recent years that Ryan was against and I doubt he wasn't in on major offensive decisions like drafting Sanchez and Greene. I'm pretty sure my being putting blame on him for the roster is more realistic than "he only got to take Conner."

Like I said I believe he has input and I am sure it is considered heavily. However I doubt he would have drafted 70% of the guys we have on the team if he ws in charge.

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No, but I believe that Ryan is part of that and it is his job to produce. The team has gotten less talented since he was hired. Maybe Tanny just got lucky his first few seasons, maybe there were people that were with the organization prior to him that aided in drafting better than the people there now, but it doesn't change the fact that the team has gotten less talented and has produce drastically less while Ryan has been a Head Coach.So you just made a pointless statement, sorry I interpreted it as having meaning. I also think it is fine for you to have an opinion.


Thats alot of maybes.
Pointless? No it was not. I was acknowledging your point of view. Reasonable people do that to show they understand the others point of view. As far as Its the HCs job to produce statement. I feel that is a bit short sighted. You have a point about we do not know why the talent has declined. Personally I think it is because of how Tanny has handled the cap. We have over paid Pace, Thomas, Holmes ect.. leaving us no money to improve via FA. Couple that with lackluster drafts and here we are. If you want to say that is because of Ryan not developing players, That is your point of view.
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