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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 02:45 PM

This guy had got to go.

Yes, I know injuries are hurting us...but that doesnt excuse the fact that this team has absolutley no energy. We look like a peewee football team for 3 straight weeks. There is no energy, no excitement and no reason to not to start fresh.

This is gonna be fun, I cant wait for the slamming to begin.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 02:54 PM

I said this last year. Ryan is, at best, an average HC (and yes, he is a good DC, but there is a difference) but I think he sucks. All the myths about him are false. The team doesn't play harder for him, players don't seek out the Jets to play here, etc. I hope he doesn't get a pass just because one good offensive player missed time (sorry, a rookie receiver with drops and a an overpaid jackoff with drops doesn't count).
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 03:14 PM

I been saying to scrap this team next year for a while now. Today was garbage. Rex and tanny needs to go. Another loud mouth coach promising glory only to flop at the end and get run out of town
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 03:43 PM

Personally I put this on Tanny. We do not have the horses on O to get things done. Lack of talent is our problem
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 03:49 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 30 September 2012 - 03:43 PM, said:

Personally I put this on Tanny. We do not have the horses on O to get things done. Lack of talent is our problem


Look at the players we acquired with Tanny before and after Ryan. Different types of players, different results. But at least Ryan still has some followers. We'll see after week 17.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 04:15 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 30 September 2012 - 04:49 PM, said:

Look at the players we acquired with Tanny before and after Ryan. Different types of players, different results. But at least Ryan still has some followers. We'll see after week 17.

I think we all knew the offense would struggle today. It is evident that Sanchez is not a starting quarterback. And despite what is being written or said, his protection has not been bad. I have always supported Ryan and if the Jets finish below .500 this season, I will still support him provided the defense is playing really well. The problem is that they are not playing well. They cannot stop the run. If Ryan doesn't get that fixed I will be forced to abandon him.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 05:32 PM

What conerns me the most, is that the Jets dont even look like they want to compete in the last 3 games. With the exception of a few offensive players that celebrate first downs, (we had 6 f them, not including 3 by penalty). We dont fly around and hit anything, except the fans, right in the balls. The special teams sucked, the defense sucked and we wont even talk about the offense. It is the fact that a coach that talks so much, players whine and bitch in the locker room, then may have been better suited to sit the starters and resign everyone that was cut in the preseason.

The offense has been so bad, with the drops, the mistakes that Sanchez made, the failure to have any resemblence of a run game, that I dont see any room for improvement. Sanchez looked so good in week 1, and then the first drive or two aganst Pitsburg, but since that, he looks like he is lost, with some bad decision with throwing and protecting the ball. The defence cant tackle for shit. I cant even go on.....My sundays look like they are gonna suck for a LONG time.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 07:36 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 30 September 2012 - 03:54 PM, said:

I said this last year. Ryan is, at best, an average HC (and yes, he is a good DC, but there is a difference) but I think he sucks. All the myths about him are false. The team doesn't play harder for him, players don't seek out the Jets to play here, etc. I hope he doesn't get a pass just because one good offensive player missed time (sorry, a rookie receiver with drops and a an overpaid jackoff with drops doesn't count).


We've been yelling it for years now.

As I said before, once this team starts losing, all his bullshit will appear. He has to go. Unprepared, overhyped and too much bullshit to deal with him.

A loser head coach who hasn't done anything but downgrade the team.

Move on.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 09:36 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 30 September 2012 - 07:36 PM, said:

We've been yelling it for years now.

As I said before, once this team starts losing, all his bullshit will appear. He has to go. Unprepared, overhyped and too much bullshit to deal with him.

A loser head coach who hasn't done anything but downgrade the team.

Move on.


My favorite Rex Ryan moment for the week is listening to ESPN NY and they mentioned the Jets having an extra day to prepare for next week before cutting to Ryan's press conference and him saying he was giving them Monday and Tuesday off.

Good news is we are 2-2 and 2-0 in the division. The bad news is our receivers are so thin that it is considered a devastating loss when a guy who has as many drops as catches gets hurt lateraling the ball to an opposing player.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 09:53 PM

The blame mostly goes on the shoulders of Tannenbaum, we don't have the talent we need because he's too busy trying to stay under the cap and preventing us from bringing in players that can actually contribute, I'm not giving Rex a pass but he can only do what he can with the groceries that were bought for him by Tannenbaum, hence a recipe that tastes and looks like shit...Mark is still our best option at QB, clearly anyone who thinks that TeBLOW is the answer is completely insane, McElroy is never going to see the field unless Mark gets implanted into the turf and TeBlow BLOWS as the starter which I'm confident would be the case...we just don't have the talent on the field to be successful and we have a very tough schedule especially before we reach the bye...ultimately this falls on one mans shoulders and that man is Tannenbaum...until we get that situation fixed we'll be in this endless spin of not being as good as Rex thinks we are...
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 09:58 PM

You guys are nuts.
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Posted 30 September 2012 - 11:40 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 30 September 2012 - 10:58 PM, said:

You guys are nuts.

I agree with you on this.

Ultimately its the players on the field that aren't getting it done. If the talent on offense as a whole sucks I doubt any coach could get them to look good. I dont blame Rex. If anything its Tanny. Rex has said many times that he has very little input on who is brought to the team. I remember clearly that he said more than once that he gets one pick and one pick only.

Tanny is genius with the salary cap and with money and Id love to see him stay with the team for money reasons but he needs to be fired from roster signings. Tanny is the one building this team. If Tanny gives the coaches shit to work with then we will see shit on the field.
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Posted 01 October 2012 - 08:33 AM

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A loser head coach who hasn't done anything but downgrade the team.


What the f#ck have you been smoking? Did you forget that in January 2011 we were in the AFC Championship game? Oh. My bad. When's the last time that happened? 1998? Get the f#ck out of here with that loser coach bullsh!t & that he's done nothing but downgrade the team. Top 10 Defense and top 5 (top 3 I believe) one year.

We all knew that getting our asses kicked yesterday was a very real probability when we looked at the schedule as soon as it was released. San Fran had the #1 overall defense last year for f#ck sake. What the f#ck do you guys think is going to happen NEXT week? I hope to God you expect more of the same because it's very possible it can be even worse. I'm THANKFUL I didn't get to see a second of the game yesterday because I knew it was going to be horrible.

But guess what.......where is the damage? It was an NFC loss. In case you geniuses forgot, our beloved Jets are HORRIBLE against NFC teams. We're 2-10 all time against the 49ers. Big f#cking deal. It has no effect other than the fact that by this time next week we'll be below .500 for the first time all season. But yet we'll still be undefeated in our division. And guess what? We're STILL in first place in the f#cking division so cut the bullsh!t sky is falling.

The two biggest primadonnas on the team are now headed for IR and cost the team the most money. Now its time to get someone to either step the f#ck up or Tanny to do his f#cking job and bring someone in to fill in. They're bringing in Aaron Berry @ CB on a 2yr deal from Detroit even though he's still got legal issues for a DUI hit & run that he is going into a diversionary program to avoid jail for. Now we need another WR. F#cking Kyle Wilson has volunteered to jump over to WR. What's that tell us? That we're paper f#cking thin at receiver. Tanny dropped the ball big time. Rex takes some of that absolutely as Tanny can only go after who Rex tells him the team needs but damn.

Now go ahead and tell me I dont know what I'm talking about but I expected all of the crying b!tching & moaning. Let's fire Rex, bench Sanchez & put in Teblow, the season is over bullsh!t today and next week it'll only be worse.
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Posted 01 October 2012 - 08:37 AM

You made my point, pal. Glad your comprehending what I said.

Downgrading our team. You're pointing to 2011.

That's going on 2 seasons ago.
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Posted 01 October 2012 - 08:47 AM

Nice try 05. You & I generally agree on a lot of things, but you can't say he has done nothing but downgrade the team. What did he downgrade it from? HIS upgrade of the team and back to back AFC Championship appearances? That's an asinine assessment and you know it. What other coach EVER took the JETS to AFC Championship games? NO ONE but Rex Ryan.

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Posted 01 October 2012 - 08:49 AM

You keep on living on reaching the AFC title game bud.

I'll look at our last 20 games.
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Posted 01 October 2012 - 09:01 AM

There's absolutely nothing wrong with looking at our last 20 games, but if we as Jets fans only look at 20 games at a time, we'll be changing coaches every 3rd year and you know it. Mangini went from being the Mangenius to Mangina. Rex went from being a God to now you wanting to get rid of him because we got our asses kicked by a team we KNEW would kick the sh!t out of us. If you didn't know it, then you were kidding yourself. We don't have the talent at WR to stand toe to toe with them. Frank Gore typically tears us a new one and they put up almost 250 yrs on the ground on us again yesterday.

We haven't been able to stop the run consistently since Jenkins went down and everybody knows it. The problem is that rather than addressing the correct areas int he fvcking draft, we dump money on primadonnas like Holmes and Revis. That did us a lot of good. They're both out and the mistake that Rex is making is not putting Revis on IR hoping he can come back for the playoffs. That's just stupid thinking to begin with. If the team managed to make it to the playoffs without him, you keep him out.

I'm FAR from saying Rex is the greatest coach ever for the Jets, but I'm also not ready to fire him considering he hasn't even had a losing season with us yet. Last I checked, his record is 34-23 as a HC including post season. Yeah.....that justifies firing him.
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Posted 01 October 2012 - 10:17 AM

Like some people said, I'm all for demoting Tanny and hire a real football guy for the GM position. I don't mind keeping Rex for a couple extra seasons with a real talent seeker above him. If they are going to clean house, will they consider the big names this time (Cowher/Gruden)?
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Posted 01 October 2012 - 10:35 AM

I would be all for Bill Cowher, idk if he would even want to come here though or if Woody Johnson would pay up for him. I'd bring in Cowher and let him decide who he wants to GM this team, because clearly we have a issue with Tannenbaum as GM since this team is lacking talent. He has not done a good enough job in the draft.

My main thing is we need a new GM that is a FOOTBALL GUY, not a money guy but a guy who knows the game and can find talent, understands how to build a football team.
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Posted 01 October 2012 - 11:23 AM

I'm not sure if Im TOO much a homer fan or a realist. If I may be permitted a little latitude, I will try to keep it short.

Sanchez: pass tipped at the line, gets picked. Shyt happens. Truth is he deserved a pick when he threw to Cumberland & the LB was in the WR position & was so shocked...the ball hitting his chest startled him. He made a couple (not THAT DAM MANY) bad throws, held the ball 1 sec more than he should on some, 1 sec less on others. All in all, not mad at him. That holmes pass to the end zone was a perfect pass that WAS defended perfectly.

RBs: tough sledding & we knew that would be the case. We needed it to keep the secondary from stacking the box.

WR: still not on the same page with the QB. THAT is in my humble opinion, our biggest issue.

D: I think they did well (yes I said well) first 1/2 should have ended 7-3 not 10-0. They were on the field WAY to much...through no fault of their own. I have YET to see a D make an O go 3 & out for an entire game so dont expect ours to.

Miscues: Epps- call could have gone either way on rec or inc. Not mad at Epps (would have been nice if he held the ball to keep that drive going, but he didnt) Knee got bent back
Sanchez- held ball like a loaf of bread, avoids 1st sack, TUCKS the ball & it gets stripped. We know he needs to work on ball security, but he lost it AFTER he tucked it
Sanchez- ball tipped at the line & picked. Shyt happens. Maybe if he was 5 inches taller or had a better touch, that play was a big gain set up well.
holmes- To me, worse than all 3 above drive killers COMBINE! OK, he got hurt on non contact, but to throw the ball on the field of play? He show nothing but a self centered selfish personality that I for one, really thought he could shed given a new start here. Not only did it kill a drive we were moving the ball on, trying to get back in the game, but gave them 7 points to boot! I never thought I would say this, but I do hope he is out for the season. He held his knee...but its a foot injury?!?! WTF ! own it, you bitched up!

now, that all being said, I am NOT doom n gloom.
we are in 1st place
I think Hill, Kerley, Schillins CAN do fine. (question is WILL they)
the O line been holdin up OK, need to keep that up & know Marks tenancies for that extra 1/2 sec
DK NEEDS to get back ASAP
RB keep poundin, it will fall into place. Just need to improve the field vision & pick the right time & holes.
K Wilson got lucky on a few plays, lets hope Revis & the coach help him out on that

the shit is NOT scuttled, we need to STOP calling for heads every dam week. Its kind of why I WISH I was a steeler fan...at least they STICK with their coach through thick n thin. Its time our coaches get creative & coach, not worry about walking egg shells & being flashy to shut the media up over job security. & NO TEA BAG!

Just my 2 cents =) I know we left alot of opportunities out on the field. If we take advantage of them...we will be fine & right the shipPosted Image
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