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ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
MikeGangGree... Icon : (24 April 2015 - 09:40 PM) TEH RANGERS
santana Icon : (24 April 2015 - 11:32 PM) TEH WIZ
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:57 AM) Teh Suarez
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:58 AM) Vic Beasley is all speed. No moves, no power. Straight up the field. Could have some big games, then nothing in the next
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) If we don't get Mariota, we should be looking at Schreff or trading down, IMO.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:59 AM) A lot of good edge rushers in this draft... I wouldn't want to take Dupree that high.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:00 AM) Until next time fellas!
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Helloooooooooo
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:19 PM) Bueller
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:33 PM) Manish says the Jets should trade down and draft Andrus Peat round 1
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 04:39 PM) Even an idiot can say something that's right every now and then
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Is There A Team In The League Worse Then The Jets

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 08:49 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 05 October 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

We'll see how much better shape they will be in after a couple of years of Brian Schottenheimer. And there is no proof yet the Sam Bradford will be any better than Sanchez is right now.


Fair enough.

But I love especially what they're doing on defense, along with Bradford's undeniable (go ahead, deny it) potential. They love their RB's, they have solid WR's, etc. And the biggest plus is the man in charge. A solid HC, who will keep them competitive.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:34 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 05 October 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

Fair enough.

But I love especially what they're doing on defense, along with Bradford's undeniable (go ahead, deny it) potential. They love their RB's, they have solid WR's, etc. And the biggest plus is the man in charge. A solid HC, who will keep them competitive.


I know that I'd much rather have Stephen Jackson than Shonn Greene. 50% of Jackson is still better than 100% of Greene.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:45 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 05 October 2012 - 10:34 PM, said:

I know that I'd much rather have Stephen Jackson than Shonn Greene. 50% of Jackson is still better than 100% of Greene.


And they let Jackson change his contract so he can opt out next season - They love Daryl Richardson and Isiah Pead.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 10:05 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 05 October 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

And that's what it comes down to you never liked him in the first place. Doesn't matter what he did or didn't do, he was always the wrong person for the job. Just like Mangini and Edwards and probably the next guy after Rex Ryan.

Well you can go live in the world of misery. I'm just saying I'm going to wait for more than just four games before i start whining and saying it's time to fire everybody (as if that would do any good).


Sort of how you always think you're right and everyone else is wrong, so since you already decided how I think and thought you can feel superior to me?

Check your facts, no one was more disgusted by our firing of Mangini than me. Edwards sucked.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 11:20 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 05 October 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

Sort of how you always think you're right and everyone else is wrong, so since you already decided how I think and thought you can feel superior to me?

Check your facts, no one was more disgusted by our firing of Mangini than me. Edwards sucked.


Sort of like how you do the same thing? This is like the pot calling the kettle black here. I'm not the only person around here that can come off as a little sanctimonious at times. Because you can definitely give me a run for my money in that department.

What you thought of Mangini and Edwards is irrelevant considering my point is they both were shown the door just like Rex Ryan could be after this season. Then a new guy will get hired and he'll be gone 4 years from now. This franchise has had no stability, yet it somehow has had more success than some other teams. That's why I'd rather be a Jets fan than a Chiefs fan or Bills or Dolphins fan. They are worse teams and that was the original question.

But when it comes to Rex Ryan I will not judge his performance as HC THIS season based on just 4 out of 16 games. And I damn sure won't factor in my personal feelings towards the man either. To hell with my personal feelings for the man I just want him to be successful, because that means the Jets are successful. If he isn't successful after more than just 4 games this season, then he can be shown the door just like Edwards and Mangini were.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:55 AM

He wasn't successful after 16 games last season either.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:27 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 06 October 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:

He wasn't successful after 16 games last season either.


You said that Fisher was a good coach, hes only had 6 winning seasons out of 17 years as a coach.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 11:48 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 06 October 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

You said that Fisher was a good coach, hes only had 6 winning seasons out of 17 years as a coach.


I said he was a solid coach.

One who doesn't have the baggage (no pun intended) that Rex carries with him. Completely different when you have a HC who is not only losing, but also continually (I'll give him credit he's realized he's not helping himself by talking) makes the organization look stupid.

We're routinely unprepared, undisciplined and lacking adjustments.

Jeff Fisher pisses on Rex Ryan as a HC.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:11 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 06 October 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:

He wasn't successful after 16 games last season either.



Well if we're talking about past seasons he was in 2009 and 2010.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:16 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 06 October 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

Well if we're talking about past seasons he was in 2009 and 2010.


Yeah, lets skip the last season and go back 2 seasons.

That matters a ton.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:44 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 06 October 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

Yeah, lets skip the last season and go back 2 seasons.

That matters a ton.


And how does what happened in 2011 have anything to do with this season? 2011 is just as relevant (or irrelevant) as 2010 is.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 04:28 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 06 October 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

And how does what happened in 2011 have anything to do with this season? 2011 is just as relevant (or irrelevant) as 2010 is.


The team has gotten worse and less cohesive under Ryan. Nuff said. This isn't just what he has done, counting all three years. The Jets lost to the Colts in the AFC championship game because of injuries in game. The next year they came out 100% flat in the first half and were dominated by Pitt. Last year the team totally fell apart and this year the team looks worse. Want to wait to make that determination? Fine, but I won't because I thought we stunk heading into the season based on my objective opinion, and not just because I'm a Debbie Downer (what the Superfans want to label anyone who doesn't predict the team to go 19-0).

The Keller injury was unfortunate since he actually contributes, but the Holmes injury doesn't mean squat. I'd take Hill (whatever is going on with him) and Kerley with Keller over Holmes and Hill and Kerley. Revis is the sucker punch. Ryan has built this defense to be dependent on the D's best two players, and in particular Revis, a player he didn't have any part in bringing in. Now, with almost solely players that have been added under Ryan (and no one can tell me they don't honestly think Ryan approved or had the majority say in what defensive players came in) we'll see what this defense is made of. But so far they don't stop the run and Wilson is inadequate to stepping in as a starter, so I don't have much hope there.

If your performance declines, your boss notices. Factor in earlier performance, but most jobs base evaluations quarterly or yearly, so let's not act like the NFL shouldn't be any different.
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