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azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 07:23 AM) preseason or not, our offense hasn't looked competent in a while like it does this year. our rushing attack should be very good. Chris Johnson and Chris Ivory could be a dynamic duo
santana Icon : (Today, 10:14 AM) http://youtu.be/2X0H709cJkA
santana Icon : (Today, 01:28 PM) 2-0 lead most dangerous kind of lead
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 08:49 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 05 October 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

We'll see how much better shape they will be in after a couple of years of Brian Schottenheimer. And there is no proof yet the Sam Bradford will be any better than Sanchez is right now.


Fair enough.

But I love especially what they're doing on defense, along with Bradford's undeniable (go ahead, deny it) potential. They love their RB's, they have solid WR's, etc. And the biggest plus is the man in charge. A solid HC, who will keep them competitive.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:34 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 05 October 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

Fair enough.

But I love especially what they're doing on defense, along with Bradford's undeniable (go ahead, deny it) potential. They love their RB's, they have solid WR's, etc. And the biggest plus is the man in charge. A solid HC, who will keep them competitive.


I know that I'd much rather have Stephen Jackson than Shonn Greene. 50% of Jackson is still better than 100% of Greene.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:45 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 05 October 2012 - 10:34 PM, said:

I know that I'd much rather have Stephen Jackson than Shonn Greene. 50% of Jackson is still better than 100% of Greene.


And they let Jackson change his contract so he can opt out next season - They love Daryl Richardson and Isiah Pead.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 10:05 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 05 October 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

And that's what it comes down to you never liked him in the first place. Doesn't matter what he did or didn't do, he was always the wrong person for the job. Just like Mangini and Edwards and probably the next guy after Rex Ryan.

Well you can go live in the world of misery. I'm just saying I'm going to wait for more than just four games before i start whining and saying it's time to fire everybody (as if that would do any good).


Sort of how you always think you're right and everyone else is wrong, so since you already decided how I think and thought you can feel superior to me?

Check your facts, no one was more disgusted by our firing of Mangini than me. Edwards sucked.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 11:20 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 05 October 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

Sort of how you always think you're right and everyone else is wrong, so since you already decided how I think and thought you can feel superior to me?

Check your facts, no one was more disgusted by our firing of Mangini than me. Edwards sucked.


Sort of like how you do the same thing? This is like the pot calling the kettle black here. I'm not the only person around here that can come off as a little sanctimonious at times. Because you can definitely give me a run for my money in that department.

What you thought of Mangini and Edwards is irrelevant considering my point is they both were shown the door just like Rex Ryan could be after this season. Then a new guy will get hired and he'll be gone 4 years from now. This franchise has had no stability, yet it somehow has had more success than some other teams. That's why I'd rather be a Jets fan than a Chiefs fan or Bills or Dolphins fan. They are worse teams and that was the original question.

But when it comes to Rex Ryan I will not judge his performance as HC THIS season based on just 4 out of 16 games. And I damn sure won't factor in my personal feelings towards the man either. To hell with my personal feelings for the man I just want him to be successful, because that means the Jets are successful. If he isn't successful after more than just 4 games this season, then he can be shown the door just like Edwards and Mangini were.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:55 AM

He wasn't successful after 16 games last season either.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:27 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 06 October 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:

He wasn't successful after 16 games last season either.


You said that Fisher was a good coach, hes only had 6 winning seasons out of 17 years as a coach.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 11:48 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 06 October 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

You said that Fisher was a good coach, hes only had 6 winning seasons out of 17 years as a coach.


I said he was a solid coach.

One who doesn't have the baggage (no pun intended) that Rex carries with him. Completely different when you have a HC who is not only losing, but also continually (I'll give him credit he's realized he's not helping himself by talking) makes the organization look stupid.

We're routinely unprepared, undisciplined and lacking adjustments.

Jeff Fisher pisses on Rex Ryan as a HC.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:11 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 06 October 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:

He wasn't successful after 16 games last season either.



Well if we're talking about past seasons he was in 2009 and 2010.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:16 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 06 October 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

Well if we're talking about past seasons he was in 2009 and 2010.


Yeah, lets skip the last season and go back 2 seasons.

That matters a ton.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:44 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 06 October 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

Yeah, lets skip the last season and go back 2 seasons.

That matters a ton.


And how does what happened in 2011 have anything to do with this season? 2011 is just as relevant (or irrelevant) as 2010 is.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 04:28 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 06 October 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

And how does what happened in 2011 have anything to do with this season? 2011 is just as relevant (or irrelevant) as 2010 is.


The team has gotten worse and less cohesive under Ryan. Nuff said. This isn't just what he has done, counting all three years. The Jets lost to the Colts in the AFC championship game because of injuries in game. The next year they came out 100% flat in the first half and were dominated by Pitt. Last year the team totally fell apart and this year the team looks worse. Want to wait to make that determination? Fine, but I won't because I thought we stunk heading into the season based on my objective opinion, and not just because I'm a Debbie Downer (what the Superfans want to label anyone who doesn't predict the team to go 19-0).

The Keller injury was unfortunate since he actually contributes, but the Holmes injury doesn't mean squat. I'd take Hill (whatever is going on with him) and Kerley with Keller over Holmes and Hill and Kerley. Revis is the sucker punch. Ryan has built this defense to be dependent on the D's best two players, and in particular Revis, a player he didn't have any part in bringing in. Now, with almost solely players that have been added under Ryan (and no one can tell me they don't honestly think Ryan approved or had the majority say in what defensive players came in) we'll see what this defense is made of. But so far they don't stop the run and Wilson is inadequate to stepping in as a starter, so I don't have much hope there.

If your performance declines, your boss notices. Factor in earlier performance, but most jobs base evaluations quarterly or yearly, so let's not act like the NFL shouldn't be any different.
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