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ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) HUGE game today
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 11:40 AM) Santana PLEASE refrain from entering the BanterBox cause you are a JINX
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Is There A Team In The League Worse Then The Jets

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Posted 05 October 2012 - 08:49 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 05 October 2012 - 09:31 PM, said:

We'll see how much better shape they will be in after a couple of years of Brian Schottenheimer. And there is no proof yet the Sam Bradford will be any better than Sanchez is right now.


Fair enough.

But I love especially what they're doing on defense, along with Bradford's undeniable (go ahead, deny it) potential. They love their RB's, they have solid WR's, etc. And the biggest plus is the man in charge. A solid HC, who will keep them competitive.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:34 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 05 October 2012 - 09:49 PM, said:

Fair enough.

But I love especially what they're doing on defense, along with Bradford's undeniable (go ahead, deny it) potential. They love their RB's, they have solid WR's, etc. And the biggest plus is the man in charge. A solid HC, who will keep them competitive.


I know that I'd much rather have Stephen Jackson than Shonn Greene. 50% of Jackson is still better than 100% of Greene.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 09:45 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 05 October 2012 - 10:34 PM, said:

I know that I'd much rather have Stephen Jackson than Shonn Greene. 50% of Jackson is still better than 100% of Greene.


And they let Jackson change his contract so he can opt out next season - They love Daryl Richardson and Isiah Pead.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 10:05 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 05 October 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

And that's what it comes down to you never liked him in the first place. Doesn't matter what he did or didn't do, he was always the wrong person for the job. Just like Mangini and Edwards and probably the next guy after Rex Ryan.

Well you can go live in the world of misery. I'm just saying I'm going to wait for more than just four games before i start whining and saying it's time to fire everybody (as if that would do any good).


Sort of how you always think you're right and everyone else is wrong, so since you already decided how I think and thought you can feel superior to me?

Check your facts, no one was more disgusted by our firing of Mangini than me. Edwards sucked.
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Posted 05 October 2012 - 11:20 PM

View PostA1elbow, on 05 October 2012 - 11:05 PM, said:

Sort of how you always think you're right and everyone else is wrong, so since you already decided how I think and thought you can feel superior to me?

Check your facts, no one was more disgusted by our firing of Mangini than me. Edwards sucked.


Sort of like how you do the same thing? This is like the pot calling the kettle black here. I'm not the only person around here that can come off as a little sanctimonious at times. Because you can definitely give me a run for my money in that department.

What you thought of Mangini and Edwards is irrelevant considering my point is they both were shown the door just like Rex Ryan could be after this season. Then a new guy will get hired and he'll be gone 4 years from now. This franchise has had no stability, yet it somehow has had more success than some other teams. That's why I'd rather be a Jets fan than a Chiefs fan or Bills or Dolphins fan. They are worse teams and that was the original question.

But when it comes to Rex Ryan I will not judge his performance as HC THIS season based on just 4 out of 16 games. And I damn sure won't factor in my personal feelings towards the man either. To hell with my personal feelings for the man I just want him to be successful, because that means the Jets are successful. If he isn't successful after more than just 4 games this season, then he can be shown the door just like Edwards and Mangini were.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 07:55 AM

He wasn't successful after 16 games last season either.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 08:27 AM

View PostJetsman05, on 06 October 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:

He wasn't successful after 16 games last season either.


You said that Fisher was a good coach, hes only had 6 winning seasons out of 17 years as a coach.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 11:48 AM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 06 October 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

You said that Fisher was a good coach, hes only had 6 winning seasons out of 17 years as a coach.


I said he was a solid coach.

One who doesn't have the baggage (no pun intended) that Rex carries with him. Completely different when you have a HC who is not only losing, but also continually (I'll give him credit he's realized he's not helping himself by talking) makes the organization look stupid.

We're routinely unprepared, undisciplined and lacking adjustments.

Jeff Fisher pisses on Rex Ryan as a HC.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:11 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 06 October 2012 - 08:55 AM, said:

He wasn't successful after 16 games last season either.



Well if we're talking about past seasons he was in 2009 and 2010.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:16 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 06 October 2012 - 02:11 PM, said:

Well if we're talking about past seasons he was in 2009 and 2010.


Yeah, lets skip the last season and go back 2 seasons.

That matters a ton.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 01:44 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 06 October 2012 - 02:16 PM, said:

Yeah, lets skip the last season and go back 2 seasons.

That matters a ton.


And how does what happened in 2011 have anything to do with this season? 2011 is just as relevant (or irrelevant) as 2010 is.

View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 06 October 2012 - 04:28 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 06 October 2012 - 01:44 PM, said:

And how does what happened in 2011 have anything to do with this season? 2011 is just as relevant (or irrelevant) as 2010 is.


The team has gotten worse and less cohesive under Ryan. Nuff said. This isn't just what he has done, counting all three years. The Jets lost to the Colts in the AFC championship game because of injuries in game. The next year they came out 100% flat in the first half and were dominated by Pitt. Last year the team totally fell apart and this year the team looks worse. Want to wait to make that determination? Fine, but I won't because I thought we stunk heading into the season based on my objective opinion, and not just because I'm a Debbie Downer (what the Superfans want to label anyone who doesn't predict the team to go 19-0).

The Keller injury was unfortunate since he actually contributes, but the Holmes injury doesn't mean squat. I'd take Hill (whatever is going on with him) and Kerley with Keller over Holmes and Hill and Kerley. Revis is the sucker punch. Ryan has built this defense to be dependent on the D's best two players, and in particular Revis, a player he didn't have any part in bringing in. Now, with almost solely players that have been added under Ryan (and no one can tell me they don't honestly think Ryan approved or had the majority say in what defensive players came in) we'll see what this defense is made of. But so far they don't stop the run and Wilson is inadequate to stepping in as a starter, so I don't have much hope there.

If your performance declines, your boss notices. Factor in earlier performance, but most jobs base evaluations quarterly or yearly, so let's not act like the NFL shouldn't be any different.
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