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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 12:00 AM) In Geno we trust
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The End Is Near For Rex, Tanny And Sanchez

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 04:06 AM

Look were all fans of this team, each of us view this team a little different and see it through different eyes. I've been called a "sellout" because I've been critical of this.

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Sanchez is No. 26 in the NFL in passing yards (1,043) and No. 31 in passer rating (66.6), and he has thrown just six touchdown passes to go with six interceptions. His 48.4 completion percentage is dead last in the NFL.


Hey maybe it's me but it's obvious. He's played pretty bad football and I know... TRUST ME I know he's been put into an ugly situation. Mike Tannenbaum has FAILED this organization and it's fans. He has squandered hundreds of millions of dollars signing F.A's each off season. He has all but destroyed this entire team. He has FAILED on his investment with Sanchez. How can you possibily expect him to perform? look at the WR's and look at the fail of recognizing this postion succeeds only with CONTINUITY. Look at the WR's Sanchez has had?

2009 - Stuckey, Cotchery, B. Smith, Clowney, Keller
2010 - Braylon, Holmes, B. Smith, Turner, Keller
2011- Plaxico, Holmes, Kerely, Turner, Keller (not to mention one God awful decision to sign Derrick Mason)
2012- Holmes, Hill, Kerely, Schilens, Keller

This is the reason Mark Sanchez will likely fall. Mike Tannenbaum ruined his chances of developing.

Look around the league. All of the teams with a good or elite QBs KEEP the same WR's year in and year out. We get to 2 AFC championship games and what does he do? shuffles the roster up and expects the coaches to figure it out. He's done an absolutely piss poor job with this team in the last 4 years.

Sanchez will fall as a result, at this point it's inevitable. The team has no nucleus. Our superbowl window has came and gone. This team will have to tear down and reassemble and it can't happen soon enough.

I would continue but there has been so much fail I'm too tired and too sick of discussing it. It's bad folks.


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 08:09 PM

I get your point but a good QB can make due with the options he has. Look at peyton manning. The guy was out of football for a year, joined a new team and the only option he was familiar with is an OK TE in Tamme. Manning has had a few hiccups this season but overall the guy is looking really good this season. I am in no way comparing sanchez to peyton on a talent level but the revolving door of WRers isn't the reason sanchez has been below average for his career. Everyone can have their own opinions on why sanchez isn't panning out but I mean look at some of the other young QB's in the league such as dalton, Luck, and RGIII. in the two rookies cases...they have had less time to get used to their new options, not to mention the time to adjust to NFL speed, and they have already have had better 4 game stretches than sanchez has ever had. Talented QB's makes lesser talent around them better. Sanchez needs elite talent around him to look like an average starter. Sanchez is at best, a high end back up as far as I am concerned. Our GM isn't at fault for sanchez's downfalls, its his lack of talent that is responsible for sanchez's downfall.

It seems like whenever the jets get a high draft pick there is never a surefire can't miss guy at the position we need. In the recent drafts we had gholston who was huge upside guy that didn't pan out. D'brick who by no means was considered sure fire because of weight issues...athletic but undersized. He has been pretty good but he wasn't a Joe thomas lock. Sanchez is in that boat to...he was no andrew luck or peyton manning prospect (yes we traded up, I know), sanchez was a high potential boom or bust pick...and its leaning heavily towards the bust side of things.

Anyways, the way sanchez's contract was extended, we may be stuck with him again next year....which may not be a bad thing because there is a good chance the jets will be even younger and rebuilding. Sanchez wont have the talent around him so we could easily be in line for a high pick...lets just hope for once there is a QB prospect there that isn't so boom or bust.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 08:47 PM

View Postextmenace, on 13 October 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

I get your point but a good QB can make due with the options he has. Look at peyton manning.


When I first read this I thought Peyton is not a good QB.... He is a great QB. Elite would be the correct term I believe. There are only four in the league I can think of. Fans always expect we can just want and get these elite players. If that were the case every team would have a Peyton. I do agree that an elite QB will bring up the talent around him though.

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It seems like whenever the jets get a high draft pick there is never a surefire can't miss guy at the position we need. In the recent drafts we had gholston who was huge upside guy that didn't pan out. D'brick who by no means was considered sure fire because of weight issues...athletic but undersized. He has been pretty good but he wasn't a Joe thomas lock.


We took Mangold, Brick, Revis all in the first round. All have played well. Vern was a huge gamble and we lost. Wilson the jury is still out. LT was a need as well as center and corner. Remember we released Mawai and Abraham retired, leaving holes at corner and center and we had nobody on the roster that could play LT.


I think when fans look around the league and see Rogers dropping in the draft, Brady picked in the 6th and Brees in the second ect.... We tend to pool all these players together as one teams benefit and think why dont we have 3 elite players. We forget about Harris and Revis that we drafted. I dont believe the drafting is the major problem. I think it is how we handle FA that gets us in trouble.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:28 PM

View Postextmenace, on 13 October 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

I get your point but a good QB can make due with the options he has. Look at peyton manning. The guy was out of football for a year, joined a new team and the only option he was familiar with is an OK TE in Tamme. Manning has had a few hiccups this season but overall the guy is looking really good this season. I am in no way comparing sanchez to peyton on a talent level but the revolving door of WRers isn't the reason sanchez has been below average for his career. Everyone can have their own opinions on why sanchez isn't panning out but I mean look at some of the other young QB's in the league such as dalton, Luck, and RGIII. in the two rookies cases...they have had less time to get used to their new options, not to mention the time to adjust to NFL speed, and they have already have had better 4 game stretches than sanchez has ever had. Talented QB's makes lesser talent around them better. Sanchez needs elite talent around him to look like an average starter. Sanchez is at best, a high end back up as far as I am concerned. Our GM isn't at fault for sanchez's downfalls, its his lack of talent that is responsible for sanchez's downfall.

It seems like whenever the jets get a high draft pick there is never a surefire can't miss guy at the position we need. In the recent drafts we had gholston who was huge upside guy that didn't pan out. D'brick who by no means was considered sure fire because of weight issues...athletic but undersized. He has been pretty good but he wasn't a Joe thomas lock. Sanchez is in that boat to...he was no andrew luck or peyton manning prospect (yes we traded up, I know), sanchez was a high potential boom or bust pick...and its leaning heavily towards the bust side of things.

Anyways, the way sanchez's contract was extended, we may be stuck with him again next year....which may not be a bad thing because there is a good chance the jets will be even younger and rebuilding. Sanchez wont have the talent around him so we could easily be in line for a high pick...lets just hope for once there is a QB prospect there that isn't so boom or bust.


Finally, someone who uses their eyes and can see. bravo sir.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 03:38 PM

The ONLY person I can agree with in this thread is S-dubb but that's only partially. The partial is that Sanchez has NOT had the tools necessary to develop. You TebLOW lovers can compare him to Manning if you want to, but that's honestly a ridiculous thing to do. Even Manning struggled in the beginning.

If you guys open your eyes, you'd see that the team leads the league in droppes passes and that the team, while having virtually no offensive weapons, is starting to gel and actually playing well. Even in the loss on Monday, the same sorry as$ Jets, the same sorry as$ Sanchez gave the best fight that Houston has had all year and then just got done wearing out the same Indy team that came back and beat Green Bay a week ago. Keep in mind, going into that game, Green Bay had the #1 pass defense in the league.

We're at .500 and COULD still be tied for 1st place if Seattle knocks off New England. Next week we'll see what we're made of when we play the Pats.
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