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The End Is Near For Rex, Tanny And Sanchez

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 04:06 AM

Look were all fans of this team, each of us view this team a little different and see it through different eyes. I've been called a "sellout" because I've been critical of this.

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Sanchez is No. 26 in the NFL in passing yards (1,043) and No. 31 in passer rating (66.6), and he has thrown just six touchdown passes to go with six interceptions. His 48.4 completion percentage is dead last in the NFL.


Hey maybe it's me but it's obvious. He's played pretty bad football and I know... TRUST ME I know he's been put into an ugly situation. Mike Tannenbaum has FAILED this organization and it's fans. He has squandered hundreds of millions of dollars signing F.A's each off season. He has all but destroyed this entire team. He has FAILED on his investment with Sanchez. How can you possibily expect him to perform? look at the WR's and look at the fail of recognizing this postion succeeds only with CONTINUITY. Look at the WR's Sanchez has had?

2009 - Stuckey, Cotchery, B. Smith, Clowney, Keller
2010 - Braylon, Holmes, B. Smith, Turner, Keller
2011- Plaxico, Holmes, Kerely, Turner, Keller (not to mention one God awful decision to sign Derrick Mason)
2012- Holmes, Hill, Kerely, Schilens, Keller

This is the reason Mark Sanchez will likely fall. Mike Tannenbaum ruined his chances of developing.

Look around the league. All of the teams with a good or elite QBs KEEP the same WR's year in and year out. We get to 2 AFC championship games and what does he do? shuffles the roster up and expects the coaches to figure it out. He's done an absolutely piss poor job with this team in the last 4 years.

Sanchez will fall as a result, at this point it's inevitable. The team has no nucleus. Our superbowl window has came and gone. This team will have to tear down and reassemble and it can't happen soon enough.

I would continue but there has been so much fail I'm too tired and too sick of discussing it. It's bad folks.


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 08:09 PM

I get your point but a good QB can make due with the options he has. Look at peyton manning. The guy was out of football for a year, joined a new team and the only option he was familiar with is an OK TE in Tamme. Manning has had a few hiccups this season but overall the guy is looking really good this season. I am in no way comparing sanchez to peyton on a talent level but the revolving door of WRers isn't the reason sanchez has been below average for his career. Everyone can have their own opinions on why sanchez isn't panning out but I mean look at some of the other young QB's in the league such as dalton, Luck, and RGIII. in the two rookies cases...they have had less time to get used to their new options, not to mention the time to adjust to NFL speed, and they have already have had better 4 game stretches than sanchez has ever had. Talented QB's makes lesser talent around them better. Sanchez needs elite talent around him to look like an average starter. Sanchez is at best, a high end back up as far as I am concerned. Our GM isn't at fault for sanchez's downfalls, its his lack of talent that is responsible for sanchez's downfall.

It seems like whenever the jets get a high draft pick there is never a surefire can't miss guy at the position we need. In the recent drafts we had gholston who was huge upside guy that didn't pan out. D'brick who by no means was considered sure fire because of weight issues...athletic but undersized. He has been pretty good but he wasn't a Joe thomas lock. Sanchez is in that boat to...he was no andrew luck or peyton manning prospect (yes we traded up, I know), sanchez was a high potential boom or bust pick...and its leaning heavily towards the bust side of things.

Anyways, the way sanchez's contract was extended, we may be stuck with him again next year....which may not be a bad thing because there is a good chance the jets will be even younger and rebuilding. Sanchez wont have the talent around him so we could easily be in line for a high pick...lets just hope for once there is a QB prospect there that isn't so boom or bust.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 08:47 PM

View Postextmenace, on 13 October 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

I get your point but a good QB can make due with the options he has. Look at peyton manning.


When I first read this I thought Peyton is not a good QB.... He is a great QB. Elite would be the correct term I believe. There are only four in the league I can think of. Fans always expect we can just want and get these elite players. If that were the case every team would have a Peyton. I do agree that an elite QB will bring up the talent around him though.

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It seems like whenever the jets get a high draft pick there is never a surefire can't miss guy at the position we need. In the recent drafts we had gholston who was huge upside guy that didn't pan out. D'brick who by no means was considered sure fire because of weight issues...athletic but undersized. He has been pretty good but he wasn't a Joe thomas lock.


We took Mangold, Brick, Revis all in the first round. All have played well. Vern was a huge gamble and we lost. Wilson the jury is still out. LT was a need as well as center and corner. Remember we released Mawai and Abraham retired, leaving holes at corner and center and we had nobody on the roster that could play LT.


I think when fans look around the league and see Rogers dropping in the draft, Brady picked in the 6th and Brees in the second ect.... We tend to pool all these players together as one teams benefit and think why dont we have 3 elite players. We forget about Harris and Revis that we drafted. I dont believe the drafting is the major problem. I think it is how we handle FA that gets us in trouble.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:28 PM

View Postextmenace, on 13 October 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

I get your point but a good QB can make due with the options he has. Look at peyton manning. The guy was out of football for a year, joined a new team and the only option he was familiar with is an OK TE in Tamme. Manning has had a few hiccups this season but overall the guy is looking really good this season. I am in no way comparing sanchez to peyton on a talent level but the revolving door of WRers isn't the reason sanchez has been below average for his career. Everyone can have their own opinions on why sanchez isn't panning out but I mean look at some of the other young QB's in the league such as dalton, Luck, and RGIII. in the two rookies cases...they have had less time to get used to their new options, not to mention the time to adjust to NFL speed, and they have already have had better 4 game stretches than sanchez has ever had. Talented QB's makes lesser talent around them better. Sanchez needs elite talent around him to look like an average starter. Sanchez is at best, a high end back up as far as I am concerned. Our GM isn't at fault for sanchez's downfalls, its his lack of talent that is responsible for sanchez's downfall.

It seems like whenever the jets get a high draft pick there is never a surefire can't miss guy at the position we need. In the recent drafts we had gholston who was huge upside guy that didn't pan out. D'brick who by no means was considered sure fire because of weight issues...athletic but undersized. He has been pretty good but he wasn't a Joe thomas lock. Sanchez is in that boat to...he was no andrew luck or peyton manning prospect (yes we traded up, I know), sanchez was a high potential boom or bust pick...and its leaning heavily towards the bust side of things.

Anyways, the way sanchez's contract was extended, we may be stuck with him again next year....which may not be a bad thing because there is a good chance the jets will be even younger and rebuilding. Sanchez wont have the talent around him so we could easily be in line for a high pick...lets just hope for once there is a QB prospect there that isn't so boom or bust.


Finally, someone who uses their eyes and can see. bravo sir.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 03:38 PM

The ONLY person I can agree with in this thread is S-dubb but that's only partially. The partial is that Sanchez has NOT had the tools necessary to develop. You TebLOW lovers can compare him to Manning if you want to, but that's honestly a ridiculous thing to do. Even Manning struggled in the beginning.

If you guys open your eyes, you'd see that the team leads the league in droppes passes and that the team, while having virtually no offensive weapons, is starting to gel and actually playing well. Even in the loss on Monday, the same sorry as$ Jets, the same sorry as$ Sanchez gave the best fight that Houston has had all year and then just got done wearing out the same Indy team that came back and beat Green Bay a week ago. Keep in mind, going into that game, Green Bay had the #1 pass defense in the league.

We're at .500 and COULD still be tied for 1st place if Seattle knocks off New England. Next week we'll see what we're made of when we play the Pats.
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