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ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 10:09 AM) BREAKING NEWS: Santana is a jinx during JETS games
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The End Is Near For Rex, Tanny And Sanchez

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 04:06 AM

Look were all fans of this team, each of us view this team a little different and see it through different eyes. I've been called a "sellout" because I've been critical of this.

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Sanchez is No. 26 in the NFL in passing yards (1,043) and No. 31 in passer rating (66.6), and he has thrown just six touchdown passes to go with six interceptions. His 48.4 completion percentage is dead last in the NFL.


Hey maybe it's me but it's obvious. He's played pretty bad football and I know... TRUST ME I know he's been put into an ugly situation. Mike Tannenbaum has FAILED this organization and it's fans. He has squandered hundreds of millions of dollars signing F.A's each off season. He has all but destroyed this entire team. He has FAILED on his investment with Sanchez. How can you possibily expect him to perform? look at the WR's and look at the fail of recognizing this postion succeeds only with CONTINUITY. Look at the WR's Sanchez has had?

2009 - Stuckey, Cotchery, B. Smith, Clowney, Keller
2010 - Braylon, Holmes, B. Smith, Turner, Keller
2011- Plaxico, Holmes, Kerely, Turner, Keller (not to mention one God awful decision to sign Derrick Mason)
2012- Holmes, Hill, Kerely, Schilens, Keller

This is the reason Mark Sanchez will likely fall. Mike Tannenbaum ruined his chances of developing.

Look around the league. All of the teams with a good or elite QBs KEEP the same WR's year in and year out. We get to 2 AFC championship games and what does he do? shuffles the roster up and expects the coaches to figure it out. He's done an absolutely piss poor job with this team in the last 4 years.

Sanchez will fall as a result, at this point it's inevitable. The team has no nucleus. Our superbowl window has came and gone. This team will have to tear down and reassemble and it can't happen soon enough.

I would continue but there has been so much fail I'm too tired and too sick of discussing it. It's bad folks.


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Posted 13 October 2012 - 08:09 PM

I get your point but a good QB can make due with the options he has. Look at peyton manning. The guy was out of football for a year, joined a new team and the only option he was familiar with is an OK TE in Tamme. Manning has had a few hiccups this season but overall the guy is looking really good this season. I am in no way comparing sanchez to peyton on a talent level but the revolving door of WRers isn't the reason sanchez has been below average for his career. Everyone can have their own opinions on why sanchez isn't panning out but I mean look at some of the other young QB's in the league such as dalton, Luck, and RGIII. in the two rookies cases...they have had less time to get used to their new options, not to mention the time to adjust to NFL speed, and they have already have had better 4 game stretches than sanchez has ever had. Talented QB's makes lesser talent around them better. Sanchez needs elite talent around him to look like an average starter. Sanchez is at best, a high end back up as far as I am concerned. Our GM isn't at fault for sanchez's downfalls, its his lack of talent that is responsible for sanchez's downfall.

It seems like whenever the jets get a high draft pick there is never a surefire can't miss guy at the position we need. In the recent drafts we had gholston who was huge upside guy that didn't pan out. D'brick who by no means was considered sure fire because of weight issues...athletic but undersized. He has been pretty good but he wasn't a Joe thomas lock. Sanchez is in that boat to...he was no andrew luck or peyton manning prospect (yes we traded up, I know), sanchez was a high potential boom or bust pick...and its leaning heavily towards the bust side of things.

Anyways, the way sanchez's contract was extended, we may be stuck with him again next year....which may not be a bad thing because there is a good chance the jets will be even younger and rebuilding. Sanchez wont have the talent around him so we could easily be in line for a high pick...lets just hope for once there is a QB prospect there that isn't so boom or bust.

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Posted 13 October 2012 - 08:47 PM

View Postextmenace, on 13 October 2012 - 08:09 PM, said:

I get your point but a good QB can make due with the options he has. Look at peyton manning.


When I first read this I thought Peyton is not a good QB.... He is a great QB. Elite would be the correct term I believe. There are only four in the league I can think of. Fans always expect we can just want and get these elite players. If that were the case every team would have a Peyton. I do agree that an elite QB will bring up the talent around him though.

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It seems like whenever the jets get a high draft pick there is never a surefire can't miss guy at the position we need. In the recent drafts we had gholston who was huge upside guy that didn't pan out. D'brick who by no means was considered sure fire because of weight issues...athletic but undersized. He has been pretty good but he wasn't a Joe thomas lock.


We took Mangold, Brick, Revis all in the first round. All have played well. Vern was a huge gamble and we lost. Wilson the jury is still out. LT was a need as well as center and corner. Remember we released Mawai and Abraham retired, leaving holes at corner and center and we had nobody on the roster that could play LT.


I think when fans look around the league and see Rogers dropping in the draft, Brady picked in the 6th and Brees in the second ect.... We tend to pool all these players together as one teams benefit and think why dont we have 3 elite players. We forget about Harris and Revis that we drafted. I dont believe the drafting is the major problem. I think it is how we handle FA that gets us in trouble.
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Posted 13 October 2012 - 11:28 PM

View Postextmenace, on 13 October 2012 - 09:09 PM, said:

I get your point but a good QB can make due with the options he has. Look at peyton manning. The guy was out of football for a year, joined a new team and the only option he was familiar with is an OK TE in Tamme. Manning has had a few hiccups this season but overall the guy is looking really good this season. I am in no way comparing sanchez to peyton on a talent level but the revolving door of WRers isn't the reason sanchez has been below average for his career. Everyone can have their own opinions on why sanchez isn't panning out but I mean look at some of the other young QB's in the league such as dalton, Luck, and RGIII. in the two rookies cases...they have had less time to get used to their new options, not to mention the time to adjust to NFL speed, and they have already have had better 4 game stretches than sanchez has ever had. Talented QB's makes lesser talent around them better. Sanchez needs elite talent around him to look like an average starter. Sanchez is at best, a high end back up as far as I am concerned. Our GM isn't at fault for sanchez's downfalls, its his lack of talent that is responsible for sanchez's downfall.

It seems like whenever the jets get a high draft pick there is never a surefire can't miss guy at the position we need. In the recent drafts we had gholston who was huge upside guy that didn't pan out. D'brick who by no means was considered sure fire because of weight issues...athletic but undersized. He has been pretty good but he wasn't a Joe thomas lock. Sanchez is in that boat to...he was no andrew luck or peyton manning prospect (yes we traded up, I know), sanchez was a high potential boom or bust pick...and its leaning heavily towards the bust side of things.

Anyways, the way sanchez's contract was extended, we may be stuck with him again next year....which may not be a bad thing because there is a good chance the jets will be even younger and rebuilding. Sanchez wont have the talent around him so we could easily be in line for a high pick...lets just hope for once there is a QB prospect there that isn't so boom or bust.


Finally, someone who uses their eyes and can see. bravo sir.
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Posted 14 October 2012 - 03:38 PM

The ONLY person I can agree with in this thread is S-dubb but that's only partially. The partial is that Sanchez has NOT had the tools necessary to develop. You TebLOW lovers can compare him to Manning if you want to, but that's honestly a ridiculous thing to do. Even Manning struggled in the beginning.

If you guys open your eyes, you'd see that the team leads the league in droppes passes and that the team, while having virtually no offensive weapons, is starting to gel and actually playing well. Even in the loss on Monday, the same sorry as$ Jets, the same sorry as$ Sanchez gave the best fight that Houston has had all year and then just got done wearing out the same Indy team that came back and beat Green Bay a week ago. Keep in mind, going into that game, Green Bay had the #1 pass defense in the league.

We're at .500 and COULD still be tied for 1st place if Seattle knocks off New England. Next week we'll see what we're made of when we play the Pats.
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