My how the league changes. This is what is so great about football. You draft to get better. We seen teams like the Ravens, Texans, Cardinals and Seattle draft extremely well. This is the motto of the NFL. This league is built this way on purpose. When you sign overpriced F.A's you absorb huge cap blows but then you get so ballsy during the draft and trade up losing picks.
No more losing picks. I want a couple years of good hearty draft classes.
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The Seattle Seahawks And San Francisco 49Ers With 2 Of The Best Defenses
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:52 PM
S-Dubb, on 15 October 2012 - 06:58 AM, said:
My how the league changes. This is what is so great about football. You draft to get better. We seen teams like the Ravens, Texans, Cardinals and Seattle draft extremely well. This is the motto of the NFL. This league is built this way on purpose. When you sign overpriced F.A's you absorb huge cap blows but then you get so ballsy during the draft and trade up losing picks.
No more losing picks. I want a couple years of good hearty draft classes.
No more losing picks. I want a couple years of good hearty draft classes.
i agree with that. we spent enough on FAs we need to draft well. we need o-line, LBers, and safteies.
we should try to keep bell and landry though. bell will be cheap. landry not so much
Get it done MT
#4
Posted 15 October 2012 - 03:48 PM
S-Dubb, on 15 October 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:
No more losing picks. I want a couple years of good hearty draft classes.
All one has to do is look at what the teams that are good every year do and copy it. Obviously, luck plays a part in the draft but how many times have the jets wasted money and cap space signing players who either are past their prime or released because they have issues that a good team doesn't want to put up with. The Steelers don't get rid of guys (Holmes) for 5th round picks because they are being generous. We need to admit our wrongs and rebuild again. Seattle is a great example of how quickly things can get turned around. It was good to see the effort yesterday from the defense and the Oline along with Greene but the Colts may still be the worst team in the league.
#5
Posted 15 October 2012 - 06:45 PM
Well first of all teams like the Cardinals and Texans have good teams now because they spent many consecutive years drafting in the top ten and when it comes to the Ravens it's been their defense that has kept them in contention every year, and that defense appears to be on it's last legs. Look at us and a team like the Steelers.
Jets draft picks from 2006-2009
2009:
Mark Sanchez (#5 overall)
Shonn Greene
Matt Slauson
2008:
Vernon Gholston (#6 overall)
Dustin Keller (#30 overall)
Dwight Lowery
Erik Ainge
Marcus Henry
Nate Garner
2007:
Darrelle Revis (#14 overall)
David Harris
Jacob Bender
Chansi Stuckey
2006:
D'Brickashaw Ferguson (#4 overall)
Nick Mangold (#29 overall)
Kellen Clemens
Anthony Schlegel
Eric Smith
Brad Smith
Leon Washington
Jason Pociask
Drew Coleman
Titus Adams
Steelers draft picks from 2006-2009
2009:
Ziggy Hood (#32 overall)
Kraig Urbik
Mike Wallace
Keenan Lewis
Joe Burnett
Frank Summers
Ra'Shon Harris
A.Q. Shipley
David Johnson
2008:
Rashard Mendenhall (#23 overall)
Limas Sweed
Bruce Davis
Tony Hills
Dennis Dixon
Mike Humpal
Ryan Mundy
2007:
Lawrence Timmons (#15 overall)
LaMarr Woodley
Matt Spaeth
Daniel Sepulveda
Ryan McBean
Cameron Stephenson
William Gay
Dallas Baker
2006:
Santonio Holmes (#25 overall)
Anthony Smith
Willie Reid
Willie Colon
Orien Harris
Omar Jacobs
Charles Davis
Marvin Philip
Cedric Humes
Now a casual fan would think the Steelers have had better drafts than the Jets in those drafts but that hasn't been the case. But the Steelers have gone to 2 Super Bowls since 2006. There are so many other factors to winning than just drafting well. Our problem when it comes right down to it is Pennington was injury prone and Gholston was one of the biggest busts in NFL history. You take Revis and a consistent pass rush, we would have gone to at least one Super Bowl by now and probably had won it.
Jets draft picks from 2006-2009
2009:
Mark Sanchez (#5 overall)
Shonn Greene
Matt Slauson
2008:
Vernon Gholston (#6 overall)
Dustin Keller (#30 overall)
Dwight Lowery
Erik Ainge
Marcus Henry
Nate Garner
2007:
Darrelle Revis (#14 overall)
David Harris
Jacob Bender
Chansi Stuckey
2006:
D'Brickashaw Ferguson (#4 overall)
Nick Mangold (#29 overall)
Kellen Clemens
Anthony Schlegel
Eric Smith
Brad Smith
Leon Washington
Jason Pociask
Drew Coleman
Titus Adams
Steelers draft picks from 2006-2009
2009:
Ziggy Hood (#32 overall)
Kraig Urbik
Mike Wallace
Keenan Lewis
Joe Burnett
Frank Summers
Ra'Shon Harris
A.Q. Shipley
David Johnson
2008:
Rashard Mendenhall (#23 overall)
Limas Sweed
Bruce Davis
Tony Hills
Dennis Dixon
Mike Humpal
Ryan Mundy
2007:
Lawrence Timmons (#15 overall)
LaMarr Woodley
Matt Spaeth
Daniel Sepulveda
Ryan McBean
Cameron Stephenson
William Gay
Dallas Baker
2006:
Santonio Holmes (#25 overall)
Anthony Smith
Willie Reid
Willie Colon
Orien Harris
Omar Jacobs
Charles Davis
Marvin Philip
Cedric Humes
Now a casual fan would think the Steelers have had better drafts than the Jets in those drafts but that hasn't been the case. But the Steelers have gone to 2 Super Bowls since 2006. There are so many other factors to winning than just drafting well. Our problem when it comes right down to it is Pennington was injury prone and Gholston was one of the biggest busts in NFL history. You take Revis and a consistent pass rush, we would have gone to at least one Super Bowl by now and probably had won it.

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FlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:
You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.
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