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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:37 AM) it wasn't for 3 years and Andrew Luck is the best QB prospect to come out in years. Teddy Bridgewater most likely isn't Luck or RGIII
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:40 AM) I've only seen Bridgewater play once. That was against Florida, I actually watched that game.
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 12:12 PM) Teddy will be a good NFL QB I think
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:52 PM) THE KNICKS
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:21 PM) THE. KNICKS.
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 02:43 PM) Geno was the favorite to win the Heisman this time last year
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) He was also a Top 5 pick this time last year
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) If he came out in 2012, he might have gotten drafted before RG3
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 02:56 PM) TEH KNICKS
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:25 PM) noway he would have been drafted before RGIII
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:00 PM) Tehhhh
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:12 PM) chuck norris said tebow is a great QB. i'm so conflicted becuase tebow sucks but on the other hand if chuck norris said it, it must be true lol
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:21 PM) Geno was not the favorite to win the heisman going into the year lol
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:21 PM) you don't watch college football, stop
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:23 PM) He might not even of been in the second tier of players
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:25 PM) I've read a ton of articles and all had him as the favorite
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:25 PM) Who was the favorite then?
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:27 PM) "Smith was already going to be on most Heisman preseason lists, but a 407-yard, 6-TD performance in the Orange Bowl win over Clemson only solidified him as an elite passer. He can make every throw on the field and has a plethora of talented receivers coming back. Since this team will likely be playing in the Big 12, which has had the uncanny knack for inflating quarterback numbers recently, Smith and head coach Dana Holgorsen are going to leave opposing defenses charred and crippled on most Saturdays."
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:27 PM) That's from a Jan 2012 article
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:27 PM) You can google shit from 14 months ago and find a f*** ton of these
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:29 PM) http://news.yahoo.com/top-10-heisman-trophy-candidates-2012-heading-season-150300441--ncaaf.html
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:31 PM) http://newyork.sbnation.com/2012/8/17/3249284/heisman-trophy-watchlist-2012-las-vegas-betting-odds-line-matt-barkley-montee-ball-denard-robinson
SecondHandJets Icon : (Yesterday, 09:32 PM) He was 4th according to Vegas odds in April 2012
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:53 PM) 4th makes him the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:53 PM) you said he was the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:53 PM) he wasn't anything near the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:54 PM) he reached his pinnacle in the heisman race in the early part of last season
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:54 PM) at that point he was the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (Yesterday, 09:56 PM) also, what a basketball game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:21 PM) 4 point game
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:21 PM) maybe the pacers are that good
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:36 AM) I said that his time last year, he was the favorite. I misspoke. He was 3rd or 4th. He certainly wasn't "not even in the 2nd tier" like you claimed
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:36 AM) Take your medicine Matty
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 12:36 AM) Maybe you should watch more college football instead of talking about watching college football
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:46 AM) No he wasn't 3rd or 4th
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:47 AM) He was the 4th favorite in vegas, making him no where near the favorite
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:47 AM) Barkley had 3/2 odds, Geno was 9-1
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 06:48 AM) It's whatever
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:50 AM) Manish leaving jets beat
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 10:51 AM) About time
SecondHandJets Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) Was he "not even in the 2nd tier"? No. STFU
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 11:25 AM) Was he the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 11:26 AM) Or even close to the favorite?
Jetsman05 Icon : (Today, 11:27 AM) Nice Manish leaving? Good shit
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 11:43 AM) SHJ, your boy EJ leads a very sad life
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 08:58 AM

My how the league changes. This is what is so great about football. You draft to get better. We seen teams like the Ravens, Texans, Cardinals and Seattle draft extremely well. This is the motto of the NFL. This league is built this way on purpose. When you sign overpriced F.A's you absorb huge cap blows but then you get so ballsy during the draft and trade up losing picks.

No more losing picks. I want a couple years of good hearty draft classes.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 09:49 AM

man I have been preaching this for the last few seasons but Mike has never traded down he has always traded up or stayed put
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 12:52 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 15 October 2012 - 06:58 AM, said:

My how the league changes. This is what is so great about football. You draft to get better. We seen teams like the Ravens, Texans, Cardinals and Seattle draft extremely well. This is the motto of the NFL. This league is built this way on purpose. When you sign overpriced F.A's you absorb huge cap blows but then you get so ballsy during the draft and trade up losing picks.

No more losing picks. I want a couple years of good hearty draft classes.


i agree with that. we spent enough on FAs we need to draft well. we need o-line, LBers, and safteies.

we should try to keep bell and landry though. bell will be cheap. landry not so much
Get it done MT
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 03:48 PM

View PostS-Dubb, on 15 October 2012 - 08:58 AM, said:

No more losing picks. I want a couple years of good hearty draft classes.

All one has to do is look at what the teams that are good every year do and copy it. Obviously, luck plays a part in the draft but how many times have the jets wasted money and cap space signing players who either are past their prime or released because they have issues that a good team doesn't want to put up with. The Steelers don't get rid of guys (Holmes) for 5th round picks because they are being generous. We need to admit our wrongs and rebuild again. Seattle is a great example of how quickly things can get turned around. It was good to see the effort yesterday from the defense and the Oline along with Greene but the Colts may still be the worst team in the league.
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Posted 15 October 2012 - 06:45 PM

Well first of all teams like the Cardinals and Texans have good teams now because they spent many consecutive years drafting in the top ten and when it comes to the Ravens it's been their defense that has kept them in contention every year, and that defense appears to be on it's last legs. Look at us and a team like the Steelers.

Jets draft picks from 2006-2009

2009:
Mark Sanchez (#5 overall)
Shonn Greene
Matt Slauson

2008:
Vernon Gholston (#6 overall)
Dustin Keller (#30 overall)
Dwight Lowery
Erik Ainge
Marcus Henry
Nate Garner

2007:
Darrelle Revis (#14 overall)
David Harris
Jacob Bender
Chansi Stuckey

2006:
D'Brickashaw Ferguson (#4 overall)
Nick Mangold (#29 overall)
Kellen Clemens
Anthony Schlegel
Eric Smith
Brad Smith
Leon Washington
Jason Pociask
Drew Coleman
Titus Adams

Steelers draft picks from 2006-2009

2009:
Ziggy Hood (#32 overall)
Kraig Urbik
Mike Wallace
Keenan Lewis
Joe Burnett
Frank Summers
Ra'Shon Harris
A.Q. Shipley
David Johnson

2008:
Rashard Mendenhall (#23 overall)
Limas Sweed
Bruce Davis
Tony Hills
Dennis Dixon
Mike Humpal
Ryan Mundy

2007:
Lawrence Timmons (#15 overall)
LaMarr Woodley
Matt Spaeth
Daniel Sepulveda
Ryan McBean
Cameron Stephenson
William Gay
Dallas Baker

2006:
Santonio Holmes (#25 overall)
Anthony Smith
Willie Reid
Willie Colon
Orien Harris
Omar Jacobs
Charles Davis
Marvin Philip
Cedric Humes

Now a casual fan would think the Steelers have had better drafts than the Jets in those drafts but that hasn't been the case. But the Steelers have gone to 2 Super Bowls since 2006. There are so many other factors to winning than just drafting well. Our problem when it comes right down to it is Pennington was injury prone and Gholston was one of the biggest busts in NFL history. You take Revis and a consistent pass rush, we would have gone to at least one Super Bowl by now and probably had won it.
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