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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (13 August 2016 - 12:09 PM) So 1 preseason game after being out for a while, you want to just dump him?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (13 August 2016 - 12:09 PM) His coverage wasn't even that bad, he was there just didn't make the plays. Allen Robinson is a stud too
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:20 PM

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Sanchez is currently the only qualified quarterback in the league to have a sub-50.0 completion percentage.

A quarterback's Points Above Average figure measures the number of points contributed by a quarterback over the season, accounting for QBR and how much he plays, above the level of an average quarterback. A 50.0 Total QBR is the league average.

So how badly is Sanchez performing? Since the start of the 2008 season, no quarterback has cost his team more net points than Sanchez, if replaced by a league-average quarterback. Sanchez has been worth minus-75.0 points to the Jets over the course of his career -- worse than JaMarcus Russell, Derek Anderson, Jimmy Clausen, et al.

Sanchez has overthrown or underthrown 47 passes this season, or 26.6 percent of his total attempts -- the highest percentage of any qualified quarterback.

Sanchez is completing only 47.6 percent of his passes thrown five yards or fewer downfield this season, easily the worst in the league. The next-lowest figure belongs to Josh Freeman, who has completed 58.6 percent of his short throws.

Mark Sanchez, Total QBR by Season, 2009-12:
2009: 31.6 -- 26th in NFL
2010: 48.0 -- 18th in NFL
2011: 33.6 -- 30th in NFL
2012: 33.2 -- 31st in NFL


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:53 PM

RK	PLAYER	RESULT	PASS EPA	RUN EPA	SACK EPA	PEN EPA	TOTAL EPA	ACT PLAYS	QB PAR	QB PAA	[b]TOTAL QBR[/b]
1	Robert Griffin III, WSH	W 38-26 vs MIN in Wk 6	4.5	7.8	-0.4	0.1	12.0	38	13.8	10.6	97.6
2	Eli Manning, NYG	W 26-3 @ SF in Wk 6	8.2	-0.3	0.0	0.0	7.9	29	9.4	7.0	96.0
3	Aaron Rodgers, GB	W 42-24 @ HOU in Wk 6	10.4	0.4	-1.0	0.7	10.6	44	14.0	10.3	95.8
4	Russell Wilson, SEA	W 24-23 vs NE in Wk 6	9.8	1.1	-1.4	0.0	9.5	35	9.2	6.3	91.4
5	Mark Sanchez, NYJ	W 35-9 vs IND in Wk 6	3.9	0.0	-0.3	0.1	3.7	21	4.7	3.0	[b]86.6[/b]
6	Sam Bradford, STL	L 17-14 @ MIA in Wk 6	8.6	3.7	-2.4	-0.9	9.0	52	9.2	4.8	77.3
7	Joe Flacco, BAL	        W 31-29 vs DAL in Wk 6	8.4	-0.4	-1.0	0.2	7.2	35	6.0	3.1	76.3
8	Ben Roethlisberger, PIT	L 26-23 @ TEN in Wk 6	5.6	3.1	-1.1	2.0	9.5	43	7.3	3.7	76.0
9	Peyton Manning, DEN	W 35-24 @ SD in Wk 6	5.4	0.0	0.0	-0.6	4.8	37	5.9	2.9	73.4
10	Tom Brady, NE	        L 24-23 @ SEA in Wk 6	10.8	0.0	-0.6	-1.3	8.8	61	9.4	4.3	72.0


qbr is weird

brady listed as 10th for week6 above
but he was the passing leader for week6
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:53 PM

View Postsantana, on 18 October 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

RK	PLAYER	RESULT	PASS EPA	RUN EPA	SACK EPA	PEN EPA	TOTAL EPA	ACT PLAYS	QB PAR	QB PAA	[b]TOTAL QBR[/b]
1	Robert Griffin III, WSH	W 38-26 vs MIN in Wk 6	4.5	7.8	-0.4	0.1	12.0	38	13.8	10.6	97.6
2	Eli Manning, NYG	W 26-3 @ SF in Wk 6	8.2	-0.3	0.0	0.0	7.9	29	9.4	7.0	96.0
3	Aaron Rodgers, GB	W 42-24 @ HOU in Wk 6	10.4	0.4	-1.0	0.7	10.6	44	14.0	10.3	95.8
4	Russell Wilson, SEA	W 24-23 vs NE in Wk 6	9.8	1.1	-1.4	0.0	9.5	35	9.2	6.3	91.4
5	Mark Sanchez, NYJ	W 35-9 vs IND in Wk 6	3.9	0.0	-0.3	0.1	3.7	21	4.7	3.0	[b]86.6[/b]
6	Sam Bradford, STL	L 17-14 @ MIA in Wk 6	8.6	3.7	-2.4	-0.9	9.0	52	9.2	4.8	77.3
7	Joe Flacco, BAL	        W 31-29 vs DAL in Wk 6	8.4	-0.4	-1.0	0.2	7.2	35	6.0	3.1	76.3
8	Ben Roethlisberger, PIT	L 26-23 @ TEN in Wk 6	5.6	3.1	-1.1	2.0	9.5	43	7.3	3.7	76.0
9	Peyton Manning, DEN	W 35-24 @ SD in Wk 6	5.4	0.0	0.0	-0.6	4.8	37	5.9	2.9	73.4
10	Tom Brady, NE	        L 24-23 @ SEA in Wk 6	10.8	0.0	-0.6	-1.3	8.8	61	9.4	4.3	72.0


qbr is weird

brady listed as 10th for week6 above
but he was the passing leader for week6

Are you honestly trying to make an assessment of Mark as a qb from one game against a bad team? And one with a rookie qb at that? Not to mention a game where he had to throw for less than a hundred yards.
This isn't a probable game for any NFL qb no matter how good the running game is. If Mark only had to throw for 86 yards every week the Jets would have the best running game and defense in NFL history by miles and the team would go undefeated and be labeled as the best team in NFL history bar far.

The point is Mark has sucked all 4 years even when the Jets had the best oline in the NFL,the best running game,the best defense, and the best corner.Mark is incapable of looking good against good teams with his arm.Only the bad.It isn't all about the numbers but after four years Mark is still one of the worst in the league every year in stats. It tells me he sucks and I see it in his play without even looking at the stats at all. The stats just help to prove what is obvious.

If anything looking at the qbr rating showing that he is way worse than when the Jets had tops in the league in most every area shows that Mark needs major crutches in many that to be even average which isn't often for any team.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 19 October 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

Are you honestly trying to make an assessment of Mark as a qb from one game against a bad team? And one with a rookie qb at that? Not to mention a game where he had to throw for less than a hundred yards.
This isn't a probable game for any NFL qb no matter how good the running game is. If Mark only had to throw for 86 yards every week the Jets would have the best running game and defense in NFL history by miles and the team would go undefeated and be labeled as the best team in NFL history bar far.

The point is Mark has sucked all 4 years even when the Jets had the best oline in the NFL,the best running game,the best defense, and the best corner.Mark is incapable of looking good against good teams with his arm.Only the bad.It isn't all about the numbers but after four years Mark is still one of the worst in the league every year in stats. It tells me he sucks and I see it in his play without even looking at the stats at all. The stats just help to prove what is obvious.

If anything looking at the qbr rating showing that he is way worse than when the Jets had tops in the league in most every area shows that Mark needs major crutches in many that to be even average which isn't often for any team.


Where is the assessment of Mark in santana's post?

View Postsantana, on 18 October 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

qbr is weird

brady listed as 10th for week6 above
but he was the passing leader for week6



If anything, it's further evidence that ESPN's QBR stat is awful.
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