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ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:36 PM) If someone calls me an idiot or moron or stupid over a football debate it doesn't bother me in the slightest. But when you make things personal like with racist things or family crap its a whole different level
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:36 PM) I felt my FLiHi remark was as "harmless" as you did calling another person a Moron and stupid because they didn't agree with your opinion
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:38 PM) my friends and I call each other morons and stupid an laugh at each other when we do something stupid like when we are drinking. It means nothing. and we laugh about it because its harmless. I'm trying to tell you this is a big difference between what you say to people and what others do.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:40 PM) Heck 115 rags me a lot and it doesnt bother me in the least. i rag him too. Same with GG2003 and SHJ. There is a difference between friendly banter and disagreements and crossing the line
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:44 PM) So your opinion of the line is right and my opinion is wrong? Is that what your saying? I don't know you. I'm not a drinking buddy of yours. Maybe you should learn some social tact.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) you felt it was harmless but you were the only one. Everyone else understood why I got was extremely offended about it the first time because you cross the line with what you say to people. Apparently you realized it enough to send me a long pm apologizing and having communication problems that get you in trouble sometimes. But now you cant understand the difference?
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:48 PM) I understand why. What I'm saying is if you take a jab people will jab back. Have you heard that saying " dont throw rocks when you live in a glass house?"
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:49 PM) The way you understand things if I call you an idiot about not wanting to trade for a high end qb its no different from me disrespecting your family. Thats what Im getting from you. So the way you see things everything is equally personal
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:50 PM) From complete strangers on an Internet forum? Yes. Man up
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:51 PM) Nod the debate was if he is a "high end" player. I thought he was well above average but not worth a 6th overall pick
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:55 PM) Not worth my time to even acknowledge anymore. Just going to ignore you like I do Mr. Jet. You have a lot of mental growing up to do.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) That's funny coming from a guy who went butt f*** crazy a couple hours ago
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:57 PM) Meanwhile you can't seem to respect that others opinions are different than yours
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 08:59 PM) You are emotionally weak. You went through some serious shit growing up and you can't adjust. You take it out on your keyboard.
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) When someone challenges your immaturity you have a complete crazy freak out and act like a girl on her first period
azjetfan Icon : (15 April 2015 - 09:00 PM) Hence the "go wipe your pussy and man up comment
Mr_Jet Icon : (15 April 2015 - 10:16 PM) Please Rob, leave my name out of your little bitchfest.
ROBJETS Icon : (15 April 2015 - 11:46 PM) My bad. You have been respecting my request to you I had a while backI made to you by us not commenting to each other to keep peace between us. I was totally in the wrong for bringing your name up at all and into an argument with member that has issues. I got furious furious with a child. I should've just ignored him like I do the other immature kids on some game forums and sites I belong to. Wont happen again. My apologies for bringing your name into it Mr. Jet.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:04 AM) Dude.... Get back on your meds.
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:47 AM) WTF? Really???
blk_orion Icon : (16 April 2015 - 07:48 AM) Now back to our regular scheduled program......
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 08:08 AM) Lol that escalated quickly
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:24 AM) Rex is chirping again.
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) He said he is going to try and kick the Shit out of the Jets
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) http://sports.yahoo....l8xBHNlYwNzcg--
azjetfan Icon : (16 April 2015 - 10:26 AM) I still like the guy. He's entertaining
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:25 PM) i miss rex. love his demeanor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 01:26 PM) i'd be happy if he kicks the shit out of miami and NE every year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) I
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) I'm excited for the new coaching staff
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:56 PM) Rex wsa fun, but he was too much with the defense instead of the entire football team
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 April 2015 - 09:57 PM) also he didn't always hold players accountable. I think Bowles will make the team more disciplined.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:50 AM) I don't have any faith in bowles
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:15 AM) “San Diego Chargers will ultimately make a deal with the Tennessee Titans for the number two overall pick. As part of that trade, the Chargers will send the number 17 overall pick and Philip Rivers, just as a start, for the number two pick.”
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:15 AM) Damn... Who called it? This guy.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:16 AM) http://national.sunt...s-mariota-trade
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:13 AM) So we would now lose out on maroita and rivers
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 10:13 AM) Ain't that super
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 01:39 PM) do we make a trade for AP?
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 02:41 PM) I believe the rivers stuff is all speculation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:38 PM) So a top ten qb and the 17th pick for the 2nd overall as a start? Makes sense
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:39 PM) So Many smokescreens this time of year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:08 PM) only 2 more weeks before we find out. draft day will be exciting
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:09 PM) my money is we'll take a pass rushing OLB
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Espn Digging Into Sachez Using Qbr Stats

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:20 PM

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Sanchez is currently the only qualified quarterback in the league to have a sub-50.0 completion percentage.

A quarterback's Points Above Average figure measures the number of points contributed by a quarterback over the season, accounting for QBR and how much he plays, above the level of an average quarterback. A 50.0 Total QBR is the league average.

So how badly is Sanchez performing? Since the start of the 2008 season, no quarterback has cost his team more net points than Sanchez, if replaced by a league-average quarterback. Sanchez has been worth minus-75.0 points to the Jets over the course of his career -- worse than JaMarcus Russell, Derek Anderson, Jimmy Clausen, et al.

Sanchez has overthrown or underthrown 47 passes this season, or 26.6 percent of his total attempts -- the highest percentage of any qualified quarterback.

Sanchez is completing only 47.6 percent of his passes thrown five yards or fewer downfield this season, easily the worst in the league. The next-lowest figure belongs to Josh Freeman, who has completed 58.6 percent of his short throws.

Mark Sanchez, Total QBR by Season, 2009-12:
2009: 31.6 -- 26th in NFL
2010: 48.0 -- 18th in NFL
2011: 33.6 -- 30th in NFL
2012: 33.2 -- 31st in NFL


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:53 PM

RK	PLAYER	RESULT	PASS EPA	RUN EPA	SACK EPA	PEN EPA	TOTAL EPA	ACT PLAYS	QB PAR	QB PAA	[b]TOTAL QBR[/b]
1	Robert Griffin III, WSH	W 38-26 vs MIN in Wk 6	4.5	7.8	-0.4	0.1	12.0	38	13.8	10.6	97.6
2	Eli Manning, NYG	W 26-3 @ SF in Wk 6	8.2	-0.3	0.0	0.0	7.9	29	9.4	7.0	96.0
3	Aaron Rodgers, GB	W 42-24 @ HOU in Wk 6	10.4	0.4	-1.0	0.7	10.6	44	14.0	10.3	95.8
4	Russell Wilson, SEA	W 24-23 vs NE in Wk 6	9.8	1.1	-1.4	0.0	9.5	35	9.2	6.3	91.4
5	Mark Sanchez, NYJ	W 35-9 vs IND in Wk 6	3.9	0.0	-0.3	0.1	3.7	21	4.7	3.0	[b]86.6[/b]
6	Sam Bradford, STL	L 17-14 @ MIA in Wk 6	8.6	3.7	-2.4	-0.9	9.0	52	9.2	4.8	77.3
7	Joe Flacco, BAL	        W 31-29 vs DAL in Wk 6	8.4	-0.4	-1.0	0.2	7.2	35	6.0	3.1	76.3
8	Ben Roethlisberger, PIT	L 26-23 @ TEN in Wk 6	5.6	3.1	-1.1	2.0	9.5	43	7.3	3.7	76.0
9	Peyton Manning, DEN	W 35-24 @ SD in Wk 6	5.4	0.0	0.0	-0.6	4.8	37	5.9	2.9	73.4
10	Tom Brady, NE	        L 24-23 @ SEA in Wk 6	10.8	0.0	-0.6	-1.3	8.8	61	9.4	4.3	72.0


qbr is weird

brady listed as 10th for week6 above
but he was the passing leader for week6
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:53 PM

View Postsantana, on 18 October 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

RK	PLAYER	RESULT	PASS EPA	RUN EPA	SACK EPA	PEN EPA	TOTAL EPA	ACT PLAYS	QB PAR	QB PAA	[b]TOTAL QBR[/b]
1	Robert Griffin III, WSH	W 38-26 vs MIN in Wk 6	4.5	7.8	-0.4	0.1	12.0	38	13.8	10.6	97.6
2	Eli Manning, NYG	W 26-3 @ SF in Wk 6	8.2	-0.3	0.0	0.0	7.9	29	9.4	7.0	96.0
3	Aaron Rodgers, GB	W 42-24 @ HOU in Wk 6	10.4	0.4	-1.0	0.7	10.6	44	14.0	10.3	95.8
4	Russell Wilson, SEA	W 24-23 vs NE in Wk 6	9.8	1.1	-1.4	0.0	9.5	35	9.2	6.3	91.4
5	Mark Sanchez, NYJ	W 35-9 vs IND in Wk 6	3.9	0.0	-0.3	0.1	3.7	21	4.7	3.0	[b]86.6[/b]
6	Sam Bradford, STL	L 17-14 @ MIA in Wk 6	8.6	3.7	-2.4	-0.9	9.0	52	9.2	4.8	77.3
7	Joe Flacco, BAL	        W 31-29 vs DAL in Wk 6	8.4	-0.4	-1.0	0.2	7.2	35	6.0	3.1	76.3
8	Ben Roethlisberger, PIT	L 26-23 @ TEN in Wk 6	5.6	3.1	-1.1	2.0	9.5	43	7.3	3.7	76.0
9	Peyton Manning, DEN	W 35-24 @ SD in Wk 6	5.4	0.0	0.0	-0.6	4.8	37	5.9	2.9	73.4
10	Tom Brady, NE	        L 24-23 @ SEA in Wk 6	10.8	0.0	-0.6	-1.3	8.8	61	9.4	4.3	72.0


qbr is weird

brady listed as 10th for week6 above
but he was the passing leader for week6

Are you honestly trying to make an assessment of Mark as a qb from one game against a bad team? And one with a rookie qb at that? Not to mention a game where he had to throw for less than a hundred yards.
This isn't a probable game for any NFL qb no matter how good the running game is. If Mark only had to throw for 86 yards every week the Jets would have the best running game and defense in NFL history by miles and the team would go undefeated and be labeled as the best team in NFL history bar far.

The point is Mark has sucked all 4 years even when the Jets had the best oline in the NFL,the best running game,the best defense, and the best corner.Mark is incapable of looking good against good teams with his arm.Only the bad.It isn't all about the numbers but after four years Mark is still one of the worst in the league every year in stats. It tells me he sucks and I see it in his play without even looking at the stats at all. The stats just help to prove what is obvious.

If anything looking at the qbr rating showing that he is way worse than when the Jets had tops in the league in most every area shows that Mark needs major crutches in many that to be even average which isn't often for any team.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 19 October 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

Are you honestly trying to make an assessment of Mark as a qb from one game against a bad team? And one with a rookie qb at that? Not to mention a game where he had to throw for less than a hundred yards.
This isn't a probable game for any NFL qb no matter how good the running game is. If Mark only had to throw for 86 yards every week the Jets would have the best running game and defense in NFL history by miles and the team would go undefeated and be labeled as the best team in NFL history bar far.

The point is Mark has sucked all 4 years even when the Jets had the best oline in the NFL,the best running game,the best defense, and the best corner.Mark is incapable of looking good against good teams with his arm.Only the bad.It isn't all about the numbers but after four years Mark is still one of the worst in the league every year in stats. It tells me he sucks and I see it in his play without even looking at the stats at all. The stats just help to prove what is obvious.

If anything looking at the qbr rating showing that he is way worse than when the Jets had tops in the league in most every area shows that Mark needs major crutches in many that to be even average which isn't often for any team.


Where is the assessment of Mark in santana's post?

View Postsantana, on 18 October 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

qbr is weird

brady listed as 10th for week6 above
but he was the passing leader for week6



If anything, it's further evidence that ESPN's QBR stat is awful.
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