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ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:20 PM

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Sanchez is currently the only qualified quarterback in the league to have a sub-50.0 completion percentage.

A quarterback's Points Above Average figure measures the number of points contributed by a quarterback over the season, accounting for QBR and how much he plays, above the level of an average quarterback. A 50.0 Total QBR is the league average.

So how badly is Sanchez performing? Since the start of the 2008 season, no quarterback has cost his team more net points than Sanchez, if replaced by a league-average quarterback. Sanchez has been worth minus-75.0 points to the Jets over the course of his career -- worse than JaMarcus Russell, Derek Anderson, Jimmy Clausen, et al.

Sanchez has overthrown or underthrown 47 passes this season, or 26.6 percent of his total attempts -- the highest percentage of any qualified quarterback.

Sanchez is completing only 47.6 percent of his passes thrown five yards or fewer downfield this season, easily the worst in the league. The next-lowest figure belongs to Josh Freeman, who has completed 58.6 percent of his short throws.

Mark Sanchez, Total QBR by Season, 2009-12:
2009: 31.6 -- 26th in NFL
2010: 48.0 -- 18th in NFL
2011: 33.6 -- 30th in NFL
2012: 33.2 -- 31st in NFL


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Posted 18 October 2012 - 01:53 PM

RK	PLAYER	RESULT	PASS EPA	RUN EPA	SACK EPA	PEN EPA	TOTAL EPA	ACT PLAYS	QB PAR	QB PAA	[b]TOTAL QBR[/b]
1	Robert Griffin III, WSH	W 38-26 vs MIN in Wk 6	4.5	7.8	-0.4	0.1	12.0	38	13.8	10.6	97.6
2	Eli Manning, NYG	W 26-3 @ SF in Wk 6	8.2	-0.3	0.0	0.0	7.9	29	9.4	7.0	96.0
3	Aaron Rodgers, GB	W 42-24 @ HOU in Wk 6	10.4	0.4	-1.0	0.7	10.6	44	14.0	10.3	95.8
4	Russell Wilson, SEA	W 24-23 vs NE in Wk 6	9.8	1.1	-1.4	0.0	9.5	35	9.2	6.3	91.4
5	Mark Sanchez, NYJ	W 35-9 vs IND in Wk 6	3.9	0.0	-0.3	0.1	3.7	21	4.7	3.0	[b]86.6[/b]
6	Sam Bradford, STL	L 17-14 @ MIA in Wk 6	8.6	3.7	-2.4	-0.9	9.0	52	9.2	4.8	77.3
7	Joe Flacco, BAL	        W 31-29 vs DAL in Wk 6	8.4	-0.4	-1.0	0.2	7.2	35	6.0	3.1	76.3
8	Ben Roethlisberger, PIT	L 26-23 @ TEN in Wk 6	5.6	3.1	-1.1	2.0	9.5	43	7.3	3.7	76.0
9	Peyton Manning, DEN	W 35-24 @ SD in Wk 6	5.4	0.0	0.0	-0.6	4.8	37	5.9	2.9	73.4
10	Tom Brady, NE	        L 24-23 @ SEA in Wk 6	10.8	0.0	-0.6	-1.3	8.8	61	9.4	4.3	72.0


qbr is weird

brady listed as 10th for week6 above
but he was the passing leader for week6
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 02:53 PM

View Postsantana, on 18 October 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

RK	PLAYER	RESULT	PASS EPA	RUN EPA	SACK EPA	PEN EPA	TOTAL EPA	ACT PLAYS	QB PAR	QB PAA	[b]TOTAL QBR[/b]
1	Robert Griffin III, WSH	W 38-26 vs MIN in Wk 6	4.5	7.8	-0.4	0.1	12.0	38	13.8	10.6	97.6
2	Eli Manning, NYG	W 26-3 @ SF in Wk 6	8.2	-0.3	0.0	0.0	7.9	29	9.4	7.0	96.0
3	Aaron Rodgers, GB	W 42-24 @ HOU in Wk 6	10.4	0.4	-1.0	0.7	10.6	44	14.0	10.3	95.8
4	Russell Wilson, SEA	W 24-23 vs NE in Wk 6	9.8	1.1	-1.4	0.0	9.5	35	9.2	6.3	91.4
5	Mark Sanchez, NYJ	W 35-9 vs IND in Wk 6	3.9	0.0	-0.3	0.1	3.7	21	4.7	3.0	[b]86.6[/b]
6	Sam Bradford, STL	L 17-14 @ MIA in Wk 6	8.6	3.7	-2.4	-0.9	9.0	52	9.2	4.8	77.3
7	Joe Flacco, BAL	        W 31-29 vs DAL in Wk 6	8.4	-0.4	-1.0	0.2	7.2	35	6.0	3.1	76.3
8	Ben Roethlisberger, PIT	L 26-23 @ TEN in Wk 6	5.6	3.1	-1.1	2.0	9.5	43	7.3	3.7	76.0
9	Peyton Manning, DEN	W 35-24 @ SD in Wk 6	5.4	0.0	0.0	-0.6	4.8	37	5.9	2.9	73.4
10	Tom Brady, NE	        L 24-23 @ SEA in Wk 6	10.8	0.0	-0.6	-1.3	8.8	61	9.4	4.3	72.0


qbr is weird

brady listed as 10th for week6 above
but he was the passing leader for week6

Are you honestly trying to make an assessment of Mark as a qb from one game against a bad team? And one with a rookie qb at that? Not to mention a game where he had to throw for less than a hundred yards.
This isn't a probable game for any NFL qb no matter how good the running game is. If Mark only had to throw for 86 yards every week the Jets would have the best running game and defense in NFL history by miles and the team would go undefeated and be labeled as the best team in NFL history bar far.

The point is Mark has sucked all 4 years even when the Jets had the best oline in the NFL,the best running game,the best defense, and the best corner.Mark is incapable of looking good against good teams with his arm.Only the bad.It isn't all about the numbers but after four years Mark is still one of the worst in the league every year in stats. It tells me he sucks and I see it in his play without even looking at the stats at all. The stats just help to prove what is obvious.

If anything looking at the qbr rating showing that he is way worse than when the Jets had tops in the league in most every area shows that Mark needs major crutches in many that to be even average which isn't often for any team.
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Posted 19 October 2012 - 03:07 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 19 October 2012 - 03:53 PM, said:

Are you honestly trying to make an assessment of Mark as a qb from one game against a bad team? And one with a rookie qb at that? Not to mention a game where he had to throw for less than a hundred yards.
This isn't a probable game for any NFL qb no matter how good the running game is. If Mark only had to throw for 86 yards every week the Jets would have the best running game and defense in NFL history by miles and the team would go undefeated and be labeled as the best team in NFL history bar far.

The point is Mark has sucked all 4 years even when the Jets had the best oline in the NFL,the best running game,the best defense, and the best corner.Mark is incapable of looking good against good teams with his arm.Only the bad.It isn't all about the numbers but after four years Mark is still one of the worst in the league every year in stats. It tells me he sucks and I see it in his play without even looking at the stats at all. The stats just help to prove what is obvious.

If anything looking at the qbr rating showing that he is way worse than when the Jets had tops in the league in most every area shows that Mark needs major crutches in many that to be even average which isn't often for any team.


Where is the assessment of Mark in santana's post?

View Postsantana, on 18 October 2012 - 02:53 PM, said:

qbr is weird

brady listed as 10th for week6 above
but he was the passing leader for week6



If anything, it's further evidence that ESPN's QBR stat is awful.
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