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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 06:54 PM


STUDS:
Kerley
Sanchez
Folk
Greene
OL
Defense
ST to redeem in the 4th quarter

Duds:
That 3rd & 1 call on the 2 that cost us 7 so that is on Sparano
Refs for having the CHEATriots in their pocket
Anyone who still continues to hate on Mark

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 07:03 PM

Studs

Kerley
D-They only gave up 20 points to the best O in the AFC
O-Line
Mcknight
Keller.

Duds.

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Posted 21 October 2012 - 07:10 PM

O I forgot Folk as a stud. he had a hell of a game
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 07:15 PM

Studs


Kerley
McKnight
Keller


Duds
The jets coaching staff




How the F*ck do you get the ball @ 2:01 and gave it back @ 1:40. and gave Brady time to come back and tie it. What's the f*ckin rush. Milk the clock and get the FG. His fat ass can't coach. Un-f*ckkin real.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 07:19 PM

Studs:
Folk
Kerley
Defense
O-line

Duds:
Official 25 yards away from the fvcking play throwing a late as$ flag for P.I. when the official on top of the play didn't
Sparano for calling a slant on 3rd & 1 that hasn't worked all day instead of giving it to Greene who's been perfect on 16 attempts
Hill for dropping the catch that would've put the game away in the 4th


Sanchez could easily be listed in both categories so he won't go in either. Had decent numbers but the turnovers were bad.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 07:22 PM

View Postreg83ny, on 21 October 2012 - 08:15 PM, said:

How the F*ck do you get the ball @ 2:01 and gave it back @ 1:40. and gave Brady time to come back and tie it. What's the f*ckin rush. Milk the clock and get the FG. His fat ass can't coach. Un-f*ckkin real. [/b]


i agree. BUT the did run 3 plays to try and run the clock.

Tebow run-to the 2 min warning
Mcknight run-NE Timeout
Sanchez Sack-NE Timeout

not much you can do better then that. if mark throws a incop on 3rd and 8 the clock stops and NE had 2 TOs left
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 07:40 PM

View Postganggreen2003, on 21 October 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:


STUDS:
Kerley
Sanchez
Folk
Greene
OL
Defense
ST to redeem in the 4th quarter

Duds:
That 3rd & 1 call on the 2 that cost us 7 so that is on Sparano
Refs for having the CHEATriots in their pocket
Anyone who still continues to hate on Mark


How is Sanchez a stud? He turned it over 3 times and was inconsistent.

Stephen Hill = SUPER DUD
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 07:41 PM

Why not put the costly turnovers by Sanchez in the duds? That underthrow that was intercepted was AWFUl, first off he was WAY LATE on that play, Hill was extremely wide open and he waited and then threw it late and underthrew it for a INT. You can't do that...


Yes Hill had a f*** up today with that bad drop.

And that was awful on the 3rd and 1, I would have had Tebow in a ran it or did a jump pass. You brought in Tebow for some reason, that was a perfect situation to use him. I would have went for it on 4th then, we needed a TD there, not a FG.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 08:56 PM

View Postganggreen2003, on 21 October 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:


STUDS:
Kerley
Sanchez
Folk
Greene
OL
Defense
ST to redeem in the 4th quarter

Duds:
That 3rd & 1 call on the 2 that cost us 7 so that is on Sparano
Refs for having the CHEATriots in their pocket
Anyone who still continues to hate on Mark


Sanchez had 1 spectacular pass that he threaded the needle to keller for the td, and was complete trash outside of that. he had a couple dropped passes but even when he completed passes he made wide open receivers have to run out of bounds with no one around or get killed.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 09:49 PM

Sanchez has an issue with accuracy. He likes to throw at recievers feet and knees. How many passes did the reciever have to go to the ground to make the catch today. How many yards and points were left on the field because of that? He was not a dud but nowhere near a stud. I have been a Sanchez supporter until the past few weeks.
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Posted 21 October 2012 - 09:52 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 21 October 2012 - 10:49 PM, said:

Sanchez has an issue with accuracy. He likes to throw at recievers feet and knees. How many passes did the reciever have to go to the ground to make the catch today. How many yards and points were left on the field because of that? He was not a dud but nowhere near a stud. I have been a Sanchez supporter until the past few weeks.

Don't forget the constant high throws, that one today to Keller was just awful. If he didn't throw it where Keller had to jump to get it, Keller would of had a big gain and there is a reason why we have constantly been last in the league in YAC with Sanchez at QB.
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 05:03 AM

Studs:

Kerley - a career day for him. He was exceptional.
Keller
Hilliard
Folk
McKnight
Wilkerson

I thought the defence did well, but we still need to improve against the run.

Duds:

Penalties - there were too many of them again. The PI call on Wilson was somewhat harsh, but some of our veteran players - notably Brandon Moore - made a couple costly mental errors that pushed drives back.
Redzone play calling - the slant intended for Schilens on 3rd and 1 was way too predictable
Rookie mistakes - Demario Davis (although he was solid when in on defence) left his lane on McCourty's return TD, while Stephen Hill's drop late in the fourth quarter was huge.

It was a great fight back in the fourth. But the reason why the Patriots won yesterday and have been so successful over the past decade is that they take advantage of great opportunities rather than contrive to shoot themselves in the foot as we did at key moments.
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:23 AM

Im typically a Sanchez supporter...But after yesterdays game, Im actually disappointed. I seriously question his attention to detail and ability to feel pressure. His accuracy is good enough to get the balls there, but there were numerous throws that couldve allowed for more YAC if thrown properly. He took a few sacks where he couldve easily thrown the ball away. Its the same thing every game. He needs to improve on this to be an average starter in the NFL. We went against the leagues worst deep pass defense...Just cause Mark went over 300 does not mean he is a great QB

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 10:54 AM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 21 October 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

Studs:
Folk
Kerley
Defense
O-line

Duds:
Official 25 yards away from the fvcking play throwing a late as$ flag for P.I. when the official on top of the play didn't
Sparano for calling a slant on 3rd & 1 that hasn't worked all day instead of giving it to Greene who's been perfect on 16 attempts
Hill for dropping the catch that would've put the game away in the 4th


Sanchez could easily be listed in both categories so he won't go in either. Had decent numbers but the turnovers were bad.


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Posted 22 October 2012 - 11:35 AM

Mark had an up and down game. he definitely didn't have a game to shut up the haters. He played well in stretches and did bone head plays in some stretches. But then again thats the problem with Sanchez. He's consistently inconsistent. Sanchez was a stud and a dud.

View Postganggreen2003, on 21 October 2012 - 07:54 PM, said:


STUDS:
Kerley
Sanchez
Folk
Greene
OL
Defense
ST to redeem in the 4th quarter

Duds:
That 3rd & 1 call on the 2 that cost us 7 so that is on Sparano
Refs for having the CHEATriots in their pocket
Anyone who still continues to hate on Mark

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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:02 PM

WOW. Guys, Sanchez missed a throw or two, and the INT is completely his fault. But come on now. Sanchez isnt the only reason we lost the game yesterday. I know he isnt a perfect QB, but come on guys.

BTW, Keller and Kerey are my new favorite players!

That holding call on Sanchez's 15 yard run was BS.
The facemask on the kick was BS, It was a facemask but it was after the punt.
The pass interference call was BS.
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 01:24 PM

View PostJSOTF, on 22 October 2012 - 01:02 PM, said:

WOW. Guys, Sanchez missed a throw or two, and the INT is completely his fault. But come on now. Sanchez isnt the only reason we lost the game yesterday. I know he isnt a perfect QB, but come on guys.

BTW, Keller and Kerey are my new favorite players!

That holding call on Sanchez's 15 yard run was BS.
The facemask on the kick was BS, It was a facemask but it was after the punt.
The pass interference call was BS.

A throw or two may be short sighted. I did not call him a dud I just said he was not a stud.r I would say he played average which is better than his norm. If he would have hit Hill for that wide open TD maybe I would have a different view. As a fan it is hard to really evaluate because we do not know what the play call was. Maybe Hill was not supposed be therebut he sat down when he saw an area with no coverage . But we can only judge on what we know. You are right about Kerley he has easily made me forget about Cotchery and I think Hill will eventually be a playmaker. He is just raw. I think we played well abouve our talent level for 3 weeks now and that is a credit to the coaching staff.
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