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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 22 October 2012 - 12:17 PM

1st Drive: 11 Plays, 75 yards 4:44 TOP. 7-0 JETS
Sanchez was 2 of 5 for passing. Hill Dropped a long pass, The Pats held Keller on what would have been a TD (Penalty was called) and Shillins had a drop too.

2nd Drive: 3 and out 7-7
Sanchez is sacked and completes a pass shorrt of the 1st Down.

3rd Drive: 1 Play Safety
Sanchez kicks fumble out of the endzone. Damn Wilfort blew this play up.

4th Drive: 7 Plays 47 Yards, INT
Sanchez is 2 of 5 and badly underthrows Hill, could have been a TD, this is all on Sanchez. I do think Hill has to learn to adjust his route though. But if Sanchez doesnt pump fake to the left, he has a easier throw to a wide open Hill. Sanchez had a long completion to Kerley on this drice and a nice pass to Keller to convert a 3rd Down.

5th Drive: 12 Plays, 60 Yards, FG
Jets get the ball with 3:43 left and have a nice drive for a FG. But I wish we had better time management here, I know you dont want to give Bradt the ball back, but I think we were very lazy with a chance here to get a TD.
Sanchez is 6 for 9 on this drive.
End of half: NE16-Jets 10

6th Drive: 11 Plays, 66 Yards, FG
Sanchez is 3 of 4 on this drive and another quick slant on 3rd and 2. Pats knew it was coming and Schillins didnt catch the damn ball. This was mind boggling. 3rd and 2 from the 3, and we get an incomplete and kick the FG.....Where was the run game? Or even Tebow here? We left points on the field here, and this one is not on Sanchez.

7th Drive: 3 and out.
BS Holding call on a 15 yard scramble. Greene drops a throw in the flat, may have been a loss if he catches it.

8th Drive: 14 Plays, 91 Yards. TD
Sanchez is 9 of 10. Good drive after starting with a false start penalty. This was where Greene got KO'd. NE 23-Jets 20

9th Drive: 6 Plays, 40 yards, Game Tying FG.
Sanchez is 1 of 2. Drive ends on a drop by Hill. No at all on Sanchez. If Hill makes this catch, we at least have 1st and goal. Hill would have been 1 on 1 with the Safety.

10th Drive: 4 Plays -7 yards.
Sanchez is sacked here after no gainer from Tebow and a 2 yard run by McKnight. We kicked the FG to take a 3 point lead. Why you bring Tebow here, but not on 3rd and 2 from the 3 yard line?
We take the lead here with a FG.

11th Drive (OT): 5 Plays, 26 yards.
Sanchez obviously fumbles on 2nd down. I am going to check this one, but on 3rd and 5, we threw a deep route here to Hill, he was held at the LOS, and that was a 5 yard penalty. But I think it was a great call to get away from the slants here. But a great hold if you are a Pats fan.


Overall, I give Sanchez a B- on his performance. I think it was one of his better games. The INT is completely on him. The fumble in OT is on him to an extent, he is trying to make a play there and lost the ball.
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 01:18 PM

:sterb041: I completely disagree with this asshole!!!
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Posted 24 October 2012 - 03:50 PM

See the problem here is that I was talking to a buddy of mine about the game the other day and said that sanchez "actually had a pretty decent game." I did not blame him for the loss but after talking about it more...it hit me. We are so used to mediocre QB play that when sanchez plays an average game, some of us jets fans consider it a good game. The expectations for sanchez is so low at this point, if he doesn't down right suck, everyone gives sanchez some credit. For a back up QB coming in after a starter goes down, or a first or 2nd year QB playing a really tough opponent...that's an an ok mentality. For a 4th year QB who was drafted 5th overall...not ok.

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 02:47 PM

View Postextmenace, on 24 October 2012 - 02:50 PM, said:

See the problem here is that I was talking to a buddy of mine about the game the other day and said that sanchez "actually had a pretty decent game." I did not blame him for the loss but after talking about it more...it hit me. We are so used to mediocre QB play that when sanchez plays an average game, some of us jets fans consider it a good game. The expectations for sanchez is so low at this point, if he doesn't down right suck, everyone gives sanchez some credit. For a back up QB coming in after a starter goes down, or a first or 2nd year QB playing a really tough opponent...that's an an ok mentality. For a 4th year QB who was drafted 5th overall...not ok.


Interesting point. But lets look at something here.

For the first 3 years of Sanchezs carear, his offensive coordinator was Brian Shottenhiemer. A OC that has a very complex offense, and the more I saw it, I was not impressed from QB view of it. I recall when Sanchez was taking us to the playoffs and Rex had taken over the offensive playcalling, Rex had a set of plays that he had that would limit Sanchezs mistakes as a young QB going into the playoffs. I really think that when we had a recievers like Edwards, Cothcery (it think Coles too) we were a run first team. We also were lucky to have one of the better offensive lines too. But with such a complex offense, Sanchez really struggled.

Now that OC is gone, and we have a new OC. I believe it takes time for these two to sinc up. Sporanno needs to develop on some of Sanchezs strenghts, but now we are not a run team, and we dont have quality recievers and we are asking a guy to learn a new system and do it without any continuity (minus Keller). During the game against the Pats, I saw Sanchez mis 2 wide open WRs on critical 2nd and 3rd down plays. He almost never looked to his left (where McKnight was standing alon) or to the right (where #87 was running also wide open). We have got to give this guy at least 2 season IMO, because he was drafted for the long haul. In this past game against the Pats, The INT was all on Sanchez. He recognized the coverage and then through the ball late. (I also think with some Chemistry with a WR, this may not happen, Sanchez may not realize the speed of Hill, and Hill doesnt recognize he needs to be able to make a play in that senareo based on the defense). If his sits down there instead of continueing, Sanchez probably has a completion. (If Hill doesnt deop the ball). I still think there is hope for Sanchez.
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