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Jetsman05 Icon : (07 October 2015 - 06:30 AM) Rob you're brutal
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:30 PM) Who should I start this week in fantasy football? Its a PPR league. I can start 3 of the WRs Edelman-/D-Thomas/Mike Evans/James Jones
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:30 PM) Edelman and Thomas are must start
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:31 PM) So do I start Evans against Jax or James Jones vs STL
Jetsfan115 Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:45 PM) jones. winston likes jackson more then evans
RetireChrebet Icon : (08 October 2015 - 01:47 PM) My two year old daughter is less manic and is able to maintain her composure much better than someone we know here ....
azjetfan Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:07 PM) Dolphins have also fired their DC
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:24 PM) I am composed. 115 and I may see things differently but he has never pissed me off. He is just trying to make his point of view and I mine nothing more
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:25 PM) I just feel the rule is a very bad rule to give the offense the ball back for losing the ball in the endzone because of a batted ball and feel the NFL is far to offense firendly these days thats all
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:27 PM) I know many agree with that. I get that many changes have been made to limit things like brain damage and other injuries some season ending and career ending but defenses cant play hard like they used to and pathetic calls on defenses have ruinbed many games.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:29 PM) Thats why brought up the Jets Fish game. The balls were clearly uncatcahable and a light tug on the jersey shouldn't be a pi. Whatever happened to the uncatchable ball rule?"
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:33 PM) and as far as that montage I did have ESPN on for 2 hours after the game because I wanted to see all the reactions and get a clear understanding of this old rule and I never saw a bunch of clips where flags were thrown for the play in question. So I asked for proof. If it was on ESPN it wasn't on ESPN1 maybe ESPN 2 ,3 or news. Its not wrong or brutal to ask for proof when he stated he saw it on ESPN I had the channel on and didn't see what he claimed he saw and still haven't seen any video of proof of his claims
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:36 PM) But as I said not mad at all. 115 and I are cool and always have been Ive never been mad at him in anyway. This is a fan forum and we dispute. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point of the forum. Disputes on stats and calls make things interesting, and makes each of use see things from different points of view
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) it was on whatever channel the game itself came on
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:56 PM) and for the record I don't have any issue with anything rob said. I just disagree with it
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) I do think rules are too offense friendly, but I think in this case, when someone blatently breaks a rule ti should be punished
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) but then again pacman got away with ripping off a players helmet and didn't get a penatly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (08 October 2015 - 03:57 PM) refs need to be more consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:04 PM) Hell yeah! Pac 12 AZ State Jaelen Strong. Not a Texans fan but and dont watch a ton of college football but do watch the Pac 12 for football and basketball growing up in Phoenix and also a Suns fan and liking the Cardinals since they moved to AZ .Was a Jets fan though before Az got the cardinals . Strong was really good for AZ State.
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:05 PM) Havent studied up on strong for the Texans but will have to since the announcers said he hasnt played much. I want to know if he has been injured or not performing. He has good hands and size
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:08 PM) I actually was debating on starting the Colts witth Jets D on bye week glad I dropped them. Wasn't much to choose from. Some decent defenses but bad matchups. took a chance on the Jags this week hoping they can shut down Tampa
ROBJETS Icon : (08 October 2015 - 09:10 PM) Oh and thanks for that 115. people took it wrong. we were simply debating our opinions with passion for our love of football with no animosity and people took it wrong. Easy to misunderstand texts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:21 AM) yeah people don't realize it's ok to disagree on the internet without it being 2 people hating each other lol
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 12:30 PM) I think if the defense touches a live football in the end zone, period, it should be ruled a touchback.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 12:30 PM) Talking about fumbles, not passes, of course.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 12:31 PM) That's the simplest way to combat any confusion about the rule.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 12:32 PM) If you don't like that rule, then don't fumble in the end zone your trying to score in.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:21 PM) it's gotta be possession.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 04:03 PM) I know what the rule is. In proposing a rule change. Evidently, the way it is now is too complicated. If a defense touches a live football in the end zone it should be their ball at the 20. Problem solved.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 04:03 PM) I'm*
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 04:44 PM) what if the defense touches it whole trying tor ecover but doens't get it and the offense jumps on it first?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 05:56 PM) You may not agree with it 115 but the way I look at it is if the offense recovered it it would be a touchdown. Its ok for a punter, qb, or rb ,etc. to deliberately take a safety so they dont get a punt blocked for a td or to avoid giving the ball up on the 1-2 yard line giving up a near definite td. An also those safeties by the O sometimes saves the game because giving up 2 instead of 7 keeps the game in reach at times.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:03 PM) Thats why I disagree with the rule. The offense gets the breaks of only giving up 2 points on O. but when fumbkling into the endzone and out it is always ruled a touchback even if the defender or O tries to recoiver the ball in the endzone and the ball goes out of bounds. Thats why I think batting the ball out of the endzone should still be a touchback instead of giving the ball back to the O that fumbled the ball into the endzone. Just dont feel that they should get a chance to get the ball back for an almost automatic td when they fumbled into the endzone just because of a batted ball. Its something that could litterally cause the defense that made a great play to lose simply because of a vbatted ball. Yet if they try to recover it it and it goes out its a touchback. I just feel its to game changing and a bad rule to give the O the ball back after they messed up bad because that play was the difference between a win and loss. The O fumbles so giving the O the ball back is like saying your great def play was worthless.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:04 PM) Just feel that its a bad rule since it would have almost definitely changed the game winner.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:08 PM) Just to many good rules for the O these days and to many bad rules for the D. this isn't college where offense dominates in most games. In the pros I want to see an equal playing field and not how its become so offensive friendly. Our own Jets have lost a lot of games on defensive calls alone after stopping the O. 3rd down and a mile and a penalty cost a 1st down and in many cases the game for us. Basically that's why I'm against the rule. I want an equal playing field in the pros nothing more.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:26 PM) Offense is in control of the ball, they should have that option. Both teams get to play offense it's not unfiar
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:26 PM) a major defensive play is more game changing then a major offensive play too.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:26 PM) turnover ratio is better linked to win/loss then any other stat
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) even in your case the offense gives up 2 point and posession back with good field position and ball control
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:33 PM) Lets just a agree to disagree on this topic. We both see the situation different and neither of us will budge on this. best we just let it go and see if the NFL starts enforcing the rule more or changes it at some point. Either way. All the coaches and players in the league now know the rule so I doubt it will deliberately happen again any time soon....but then again who knows...in the games there are a lot of stupid fouls out of frustration, taunting, etc.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:34 PM) And the fans and officials are now aware of a rule almost no one but the officials knew.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 06:37 PM) Heck Im upset that we arent 4-0 right now with all thr mistakes against the Eagles and still almost coming back. I feel we need every win we can get especially with the Bills looking decent and always having to deal with the pats every year. Be nice to win the division for once. So tired of seeing the Pats win and get a bye almost every year.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:12 PM) Why do the Jets DBs have to talk about the Giants WRs!!? Why can't they just worry about our own team.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:13 PM) I think all jets fans remember the last time our DBs talked crap about a Giants WR..
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 11:13 PM) The jets should just worry about the Jets!!
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Tim Tebow Interview with the New York Daily News

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:02 PM


Seriously, this is more an interrogation than an interview. Mehta is just attempting to put answers into Tebow's mouth and cause some controversy. It's obvious Tim isn't going to be ecstatic with his role as a backup; I don't think any second stringer in the league is necessarily pleased with their position and will want to start.
Tebow has played reasonably when called upon this year, even though the Wildcat is frustrating. But it's this kind of article surfacing that was exactly my fear when the team moved to acquire him. Tebow didn't say much, but it's obvious his refusal to answer some of the questions is going to spawn articles questioning his happiness and his relationship with Mark Sanchez at precisely the time of year that we don't need it.


One season after Tebowmania captivated the NFL, the man at the center of it all has struggled to recapture that magic with the Jets.

The Daily News sat down for an exclusive, wide-ranging interview this week with backup quarterback and personal punt protector Tim Tebow to discuss the past, present and future.

- On Rex Ryan's loose-lipped locker-room culture:

"We've had a history here of people talking too much. You just don't want to do that."

- On his impact on Mark Sanchez:

"I feel like one of the reasons they brought me here was to help make him better."

- On waiting for his chance to be a starting quarterback again:

"I'm working on a lot of things and feeling like I'm getting better. Looking forward to one day being able to show some of those things... You never know for me. My role, it could expand."

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DN: Did you see the recent Sports Illustrated players' poll that ranked you as the Most Overrated Player in the NFL?

TT: Oh, really? No, I didn't see it. Yeah, it's really fine. It's both sides, because they also voted me in the Top 100 (Players on NFL Network), too.

DN: You've done everything the coaches have asked you to do, but why haven't you ever come out and simply said, "Mark Sanchez is our starting QB. As the backup, I support him"?

TT: For one, I think my role here is just to do the best I can with everything I'm asked. And I try not to give opinions above my pay grade. For the most part, just work hard. I'm not into making predictions or saying thoughts like that. I just go about my business.

DN: But that wouldn't be making a prediction or a decision above your pay grade. It's the depth chart: Mark Sanchez is the starter.

TT: Yes.

DN: Last year, didn't you get fined by the Broncos quarterbacks for not speaking out against a billboard put up by fans that called for Kyle Orton to be benched in favor of you? Didn't the quarterbacks just want you to come out and say, 'Kyle is our starting QB. As the backup, I support him and so should the fans?'

TT: I think that was a totally different situation. I obviously didn't have anything to do with the billboard when I was 100% behind our organization there in Denver and did whatever I could. That was a long time ago and something that I'm not worried about now... I always said stuff for them. I believe I say very complimentary things about my teammates now, including Mark.

DN: You are one of the most competitive players in the league. Don't you feel some level of frustration because you've had a limited role so far?

TT: We're only in our seventh week of the season. The season's got a long way to go. We got an opportunity to win a game this week and go to 4-4.

DN: You are going to run for political office in the next couple years, aren't you?

TT: (Laughs).

DN: All joking aside, I don't think anybody would ever question that you're a team-first guy. Don't you believe that people would view your frustration over the lack of playing time as an expression of your competitiveness?

TT: I am someone that is very competitive. When I'm on the field, I compete. When I'm practicing, when I'm in meetings. I'm a competitor in everything. So you want to do whatever you can to help the team. Sometimes it's called being a great teammate, having a great attitude on the sidelines. That's part of helping your team as well.

DN: Do you think your career is currently in a holding pattern with the Jets?

TT: I don't know about that. I think I'm getting better every day. I'm improving.

DN: Improving as a quarterback?

TT: Yes.

DN: Isn't the best way to get better to be in live game situations as a quarterback?

TT: Absolutely. That's probably the way to get better fastest, but I'm working on a lot of things and feeling like I'm getting better. You know, looking forward to one day being able to show some of those things. But constantly getting better.

DN: Can you be a starting quarterback in this league over time?

TT: I believe in my God-given athletic ability and the coaches that have been blessed around me. I believe I can do the job as a quarterback in the NFL.

DN: When you look back on your career five or 10 years from now, would you have had to play quarterback in order for it to have been a success

TT: Oh, man. There's so many outside factors. If I believe that I became the best quarterback that I could possibly be, the best football player that I could possibly be... That's how I'm going to measure my career as a success or not.

DN: Who's the best quarterback on the Jets right now?

TT: (Laughs)

DN: That's a fair question.

TT: It's absolutely a fair question... Whoever's out there on the field.

DN: That would mean Mark, because he's the one out there on the field.

TT: (Nods)... When I'm asked to do something, hopefully, you know, I'm the best person for that job. When he's asked to do something, he'll be the best person for that job.

DN: How have you become a better passer if you've thrown it only three times in seven games?

TT: Because I do it in practice and try to improve and do good on scout team and give our team a look. Work extra. Work early.

DN: How do you know if your practice improvement is a true measure of whether you've actually improved if you're not doing it in a real game?

TT: Obviously, you have to get (into) a game.

DN: Do you think that people will view you as not being a team guy if you express your frustration over your lack of playing time?

TT: I don't know if that's not being a team guy. I think that I try to be open and honest in talking to the media. Obviously try to be honest. But sometimes you don't have to talk about everything. We've had a history here of people talking too much. You just don't want to do that. Why make it something if it's not?

DN: Do you think that people would say, 'That's a very un-Tim Tebow thing' to voice disappointment or frustration with your role?

TT: (Laughs)... Obviously, I'm a competitor. And you get frustrated with losing. When we win, I'm excited about winning. That way I get the ups and downs of a football season. But I also know that it's never as good as it seems, it's never as bad as seems. You always have to stay focused because you never know for me. My role, it could expand. So you just got to always be ready.

DN: Is it unfair to Mark to have one of the most popular guys in the league as his backup?

TT: I feel like one of the reasons they brought me here was to help make him better by being someone that could come in and convert some first downs, make some plays, do different things. So, hopefully our being together will benefit both of us.

DN: Do you think that this quarterback situation has stunted both of your developments?

TT: I don't know if that's fair to say. Sometimes it's helped us in some games.

DN: How has being on the Jets helped you become a better quarterback?

TT: You know, I've been blessed to be able to work with (quarterbacks) Coach (Matt) Cavanaugh and get a lot better. Some of the things that you can't see, I feel like I've improved on.

DN: Do you think you're a better player now than you were at the end of last season?

TT: Yes.

DN: Really?

TT: Yes... Why? Just because you can't show it?

DN: There's no tangible evidence of it.

TT: That's for you. I don't have to convince you of it. It's about me believing that I'm better.

DN: This is a results-oriented business. Owners, general managers, coaches judge you based on results. You're honestly saying that you're a better football player today than you were at the end of your playoff run in Denver last season?

TT: Yes... I am a better football player. Maybe I haven't been able to show everything, but I do believe that I'm a better football player, a better quarterback.

DN: So, do you think this situation is unfair to Mark?

TT: Hopefully, it makes both of us better.

DN: Do you think that it has to this point?

TT: I think both of us have improved, yes. I do think both of us have improved as quarterbacks and as football players.

DN: Ultimately, don't you guys have to take divergent paths? Because you both want the same thing: To be the starting quarterback. You can't be that for this team as long as Mark is here. Or vice versa. You can't have two starting quarterbacks on the same team, so how long can this professional relationship last?

TT: That's not up to us. We're just trying to beat the Miami Dolphins however we can.

DN: For both of your careers to flourish, wouldn't you say that you have to be in different places? Can you be on the same team for the next five years?

TT: I'm not going to focus on the next five years of my career. I'm going to focus on Sunday.

DN: To close on a lighter note, you have become a favorite character on 'Saturday Night Live.' Have you ever considered hosting the show?

TT: We've come close a few times. My schedule's been so busy. It would be fun to do it one day. The right day.

DN: Thanks, Tim. I appreciate you taking the time. I know these weren't the easiest questions.

TT: Ya think?!


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Posted 26 October 2012 - 03:02 PM

This kid is going to be President one day.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 08:13 PM

He's awesome at avoiding those really tough questions. Man that reporter is tough.
Sal Paolantonio commenting on the difference in the Ryan and Mangini atmospheres in the building:
"It's like going from Alcatraz to Dorney Park."

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