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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The Buffalo Jills are #31 and the Miami Dolphags are #16 respectively
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 07:00 PM) The JETS are worth $1.8 billion
jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
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Jets May Be Better Without Holmes

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:23 PM

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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Five weeks ago, the New York Jets beat the Miami Dolphins with a little bit of luck and a lot of Santonio Holmes, who delivered one of the team's best receiving performances in recent memory.

"Sanchez-Holmes football," Holmes crowed after the game.
Since then, the Jets have changed their Tone.

Holmes is gone, recovering from season-ending foot surgery. Without their most accomplished receiver, the Jets were supposed to be toast, but they actually could be better?

Yes, better.

It sounds like a preposterous concept, but Mark Sanchez, no longer reliant on one receiver, is seeing the field better than before, according to teammates. He's finding the open receiver more often, they said, perhaps because he longer feels a sense of obligation to throw it to the resident diva, Holmes -- open or not. He's trusting others because well, he has no choice.

It's no coincidence his completion percentage has improved from 49 percent to 53 percent over the last three games.

New England Patriots cornerback Devin McCourty told NFL.com last week that Sanchez is "a little tougher now that Holmes is gone." The Jets' passing attack is healthier and more balanced without Holmes, who, frankly, is overrated. Oh, they miss his ability in the clutch -- see the Miami win -- but you get the feeling that Sanchez isn't crying over the loss of Holmes.

"I wouldn't say one's easier or harder," said Sanchez, comparing a Holmes-led receiving corps to a Holmes-less corps. "I feel confident either way, it doesn't matter to me. I love having Tone in there. I love playing with these guys. That doesn't matter."

Sunday will be a good test for Sanchez & Co. The Dolphins will be in town for a huge game -- pass the hot sauce, please -- and now we'll see if the Jets can pull off the sweep without their $9 million-a-year receiver.

They lose nine catches for 147 yards, Holmes' production that day in Miami -- his first 100-yard game in nearly two years. But they gain diversity.

Jeremy Kerley, coming off a career game, is establishing himself as one of the rising talents in the league. Rookie Stephen Hill, his killer drop notwithstanding, is improving every week. Tight end Dustin Keller, finally healthy after a month-long hamstring battle, is back to being Sanchez's go-to guy over the middle.
"Guys don't respect them enough, to be honest," Sanchez said. "I think it's an explosive group. The reason the ball is going around is because all of them have the ability to get open. I love Tone but when someone says, 'How do you feel playing without a No. 1?' -- that's not [fair] for the guys we have."


This no-name group is playing with a chip on its shoulder. It heard the criticism, starting in training camp, when one of their own teammates -- cornerback Antonio Cromartie -- tweaked the receiving corps. When Holmes went down, the noise intensified from the outside.

Let's be honest: It was kind of a suspect group until Hill and Keller returned.

"They thought we were the worst in the world," receiver Chaz Schilens said of the critics. "It's disrespectful. Whatever people say about us, I think we're proving people wrong, week in, week out."

The passing game has become less predictable. Before he lost his No. 1 receiver, Sanchez directed 33 percent of his pass attempts to Holmes. Since the injury, the pass distribution between the No. 1 and No. 2 receiver is almost even -- 22 percent to 24 percent. He's also checking down to his backs at a much higher rate than before.

Kerley has become a tough cover for opponents. Since the Holmes injury, he ranks fourth in the AFC in receiving yards (238). He and Sanchez have developed a rapport, especially on vertical routes.

Only 5-foot-9, Kerley isn't your protypical deep threat, but he and Sanchez have connected on 77 percent of the balls that traveled at least 15 yards in the air, according to ESPN Stats & Information -- second among quarterback-receiver tandems.

Keller said he always had a good feeling about Kerley. He recalled having conversations with Sanchez at the last two "Jets West" passing camps about Kerley's potential.
"Mark and I would sit there and we'd watch him run his routes and say, 'Kerley is really good,'" Keller said.

Kerley still is learning to play on the perimeter, dramatically different than the slot. Five of his seven receptions last week came out of the slot, his natural position. His two catches on the outside were against a Cover 2, which afforded him a free release and the chance to find soft spots in the zone.

"I want to prove to others I can be a total receiver," Kerley said.

The receiving corps still is far from polished. It has two middle-of-the-field threats in Keller and Kerley, but its lacks a consistent player on the perimeter. Maybe Hill can be that guy. Clyde Gates has impressed in practice and he could get a shot this week.

Chances are, Sanchez will need another 40-pass game to beat the Dolphins, whose stifling run defense will force the Jets to the air. Except for cornerback Sean Smith, Miami's secondary is nothing special. Their other starting corner, Richard Marshall, is expected to miss his third straight game. He's probably still experiencing whiplash, the result of trying to cover Holmes.

To his credit, Holmes was a franchise receiver that day, despite extra coverage.

"They tried to key everything on Santonio," Schilens said. "The way Dustin, Jeremy and Stephen are playing, they're going to have their hands full, even more so than before. It's good for us. It's good for our team to have as many weapons as we can."

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 08:05 AM

49 percent to 53?! OH! OH OH!!!!!!!
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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:09 PM

Considering how many passes were DROPPED by receivers, not much of that % can be attributed to Sanchez now can it? Or would you prefer the 13 - 15% completion percentage that Tebow would have?
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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:32 PM

Sanchez has missed his fair share of receivers with bad passes.
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