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JETS LACK OF REDZONE OFFENSE STILL CURSING THE DEFENSE
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) well
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) Because we destoy any promise in our young QBs with our elite offensive support talent.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) TIME TO CHANGE THE DIAPER
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) another game next week
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:48 PM) 3-0 with Sanchez? Oh god...we've gone there already?
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) jets need more talent on O
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) and some god damn DBs
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:49 PM) Morninweg's system is get the offense going then throw a monkey wrench into things by putting the backup QB in there and f***ing up the offense's rhythm.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:50 PM) Yes I went there. Geno spots these teams 7-10 points weekly and has turned the ball in the redzone 3 games in a row. If not for 2 dropped ints geno would have 4 picks. Dude sucks at best
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 10:51 PM) Then we got Chris ivory running like marshawn lynch out there and they sit him on the bench the whole fourth quarter
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) I'd like to use the same excuse I used for Sanchez. QB can't really do shit when your best WR would be a #3 if he was lucky on any other team
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) yeah but sanchez was shell shcoked
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:52 PM) jets werent fixing him
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) Geno will be to after another year or two of this shit.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) What's kerleys contract like
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:53 PM) because if he's underpaid I don't see him sticking around
XvNukemHighvX Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) he only looks good because our O is so bad.
santana Icon : (Yesterday, 10:54 PM) I bet a lot of teams have their eye on him
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:56 PM) Decker doesn't need to play until he is completely healthy
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:58 PM) FIRE IDZIK
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:08 PM) How big was the Sheldon Richardson fumble recovery not being a TD. We quickly went three and out after that
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:43 PM) Idzik better not be stingy this offseason and address the biggest issues we have WR and Secondary
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:47 PM) King mo says he's ok, injury is minor
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 09:21 AM) As a guy who has been on this site since its inception and is still not a moderator which I guess is cause I'm not part of the rat pack who runs this joint I think GENO should still be the starter.
mgjetman Icon : (Today, 10:19 AM) We still could have won this game with the bad calls. Geno just sucks. All the pick six's, missing wide open receivers, bad throws when they are fought. Stupid trick plays because they don't trust him.
santana Icon : (Today, 10:31 AM) I don't get his decision making
santana Icon : (Today, 10:32 AM) There were another 2-3 ints the bears were gifted but were dropped
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) f***
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) I had a blast at the game... just sucks we lost
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:22 AM) 1-3 when I go se them
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:32 AM) Refs fucked up the fumble for a TD. by calling it down the first time everyone in the stadium saw it as a fumble
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) they need to just let them plays play out because they now look at every turnover
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) If hes down they could just overturn it on the replay
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 11:33 AM) f*** Holmes to
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) gg2003 you want to be a mod?
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 12:22 PM) You have to go through your initiation
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) Gg03 would be a terrif
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:43 PM) what is the "initiation"
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:47 PM) :zz:
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:53 PM) and no I will not say that Idzik needs to be canned cause he doesn't
ganggreen2003 Icon : (Today, 12:54 PM) he just needs to find talent at the CB and WR positions while also improving in positions that are currently our strengths like DL and OL
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Today, 01:30 PM) Fire idzik!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Today, 01:45 PM) Best part of last night was Wayne Chrebet going onto the Ring of Honor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 02:04 PM) u think our oline is a strength? did u not see geno getting killed out there?
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Today, 02:04 PM) LG is a shit position, colon is old and nto much left in the tank, brick and mangold are in decline, and brent is a below average RT at best
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Coaches Who'll Get Fired

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 04:21 PM

Turner, Garrett.

Ryan? Guy in Cleveland? Reid? Schwartz? Usually about seven anyway.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 28 October 2012 - 06:13 PM

Wasn't the Browns coach hired this offseason?

Marvin Lewis may be done. Ron Rivera is another guy who's probably on the hot seat.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 06:28 PM

Crennel should get fired. I've been Googling for hours trying to find out why they aren't using Charles and cant find anything. They just randomly do stuff in KC this season on offense.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 28 October 2012 - 06:43 PM

Marvin Lewis may be done?!!! WHAT?!

No. That's a ridiculous shout. Unless they lose out, he's not going anywhere. He's been through worse and he has a young team, coming off the playoffs when he shouldn't of been there.

Rex is out.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 07:06 PM

View PostJetsman05, on 28 October 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

Marvin Lewis may be done?!!! WHAT?!

No. That's a ridiculous shout. Unless they lose out, he's not going anywhere. He's been through worse and he has a young team, coming off the playoffs when he shouldn't of been there.

Rex is out.


He's perpetually on the hot seat and he's been there for ages. If they don't have a strong finish I wouldn't be surprised if they switch things up.

Chan Gailey is a possibility is as well.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 07:58 PM

View PostChaos, on 28 October 2012 - 08:06 PM, said:

He's perpetually on the hot seat and he's been there for ages. If they don't have a strong finish I wouldn't be surprised if they switch things up.

Chan Gailey is a possibility is as well.


The only way he gets fired is because it's the Bengals. One of the few franchises worse than the Jets.

He deserves another few seasons unless they turn into a putrid team.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 08:04 PM

Mike Holmgren isn't with the Browns anymore. I don't want him as our GM but as our head coach I could support that.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 08:15 PM

I actually think Rex will still be here next year to have a shot at turning it around since he has the excuse of injuries this season. If he doesn't return to the playoffs next year, he's out. One reason why he'll still be here and Sanchez will continue to be the starter? He's guaranteed 10 million in 2013 & the Jets are already 7 million OVER the salary cap.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 08:37 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 28 October 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

I actually think Rex will still be here next year to have a shot at turning it around since he has the excuse of injuries this season. If he doesn't return to the playoffs next year, he's out. One reason why he'll still be here and Sanchez will continue to be the starter? He's guaranteed 10 million in 2013 & the Jets are already 7 million OVER the salary cap.


This is the most depressing Jets tidbit of the day. Sanchez isn't movable until 2014. His cap number is nearly $13 million next year. $13 million. :help:

Even if the Jets find a way to get rid of him in 2014 if he doesn't turn it around, he's dead money against the cap until 2016.


View PostMr_Jet, on 28 October 2012 - 09:04 PM, said:

Mike Holmgren isn't with the Browns anymore. I don't want him as our GM but as our head coach I could support that.


Jets need to get acquainted with the 21st century offense. Does Gruden want to coach again?
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 08:53 PM

View PostChaos, on 28 October 2012 - 09:37 PM, said:

Jets need to get acquainted with the 21st century offense. Does Gruden want to coach again?


Gruden is overrated.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 28 October 2012 - 09:05 PM

View PostFlyHiJets, on 28 October 2012 - 07:15 PM, said:

I actually think Rex will still be here next year to have a shot at turning it around since he has the excuse of injuries this season. If he doesn't return to the playoffs next year, he's out. One reason why he'll still be here and Sanchez will continue to be the starter? He's guaranteed 10 million in 2013 & the Jets are already 7 million OVER the salary cap.


Holmes never has done anything special so what injuries are you talking about? The Jets lost keller for a few gamss and revis. You're grasping at straws if you are including anyone else.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 30 October 2012 - 10:39 AM

Rex Ryan isn't going anywhere.

Ron Rivera and Norv Turner will be out before season end. Andy Reid and Romeo Crennel will be done. I can see Jason Garrett getting another season.
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 11:52 AM

Rex is safe. He had a valid excuse for this year. No talent and injuries to his best two players. I would not be suprised to see TS either demoted to O-line Coach or fired. I am not saying it will happen but it could.
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 12:12 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 30 October 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

Rex is safe. He had a valid excuse for this year. No talent and injuries to his best two players. I would not be suprised to see TS either demoted to O-line Coach or fired. I am not saying it will happen but it could.


Doubt it. Why is Matt Cavanaugh still the QB though? He's been here since 2009 and he needs to be replaced if anything.
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 12:17 PM

Nothing is more surprising about this season than seeing Holmes get promoted from a guy we needed to dump because of his attitude and drops to the second best player on the team...so that people can excuse Ryan.

It is impressive that losing such a great receiver is an excuse for the HC to not be fired but nor for Sanchez to not be benched. I husss Holmss loss somehow has impacted the run defense, which probably isn't Ryan's fault anyway since he can't be blamed for anything.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 30 October 2012 - 01:02 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 30 October 2012 - 12:17 PM, said:

Nothing is more surprising about this season than seeing Holmes get promoted from a guy we needed to dump because of his attitude and drops to the second best player on the team...so that people can excuse Ryan.

It is impressive that losing such a great receiver is an excuse for the HC to not be fired but nor for Sanchez to not be benched. I husss Holmss loss somehow has impacted the run defense, which probably isn't Ryan's fault anyway since he can't be blamed for anything.

That is a short sighted comment. You are assuming the people who give credit to Holmes are the same that wanted him gone.

Also If you think all the blame belongs on one person your crazy. If you think replacing one area Rex, Sanchez or whoever will make us a championship team you are very mistaken. We have deep issues from depth to starting talent. If we would have brought in Peyton Manning he would have performed better than Sanchez but we would still suck. This is not a quick fix. I doubt we will be competitive any time soon. We are probably a good 2-3 years out. In my opinion Tanny should be fired well before Rex. Tanny has not held up his end. He has not aquired talent and has signed players like Pace, Scott and Holmes to big deals. More than their market value. He also has let players we need walk like Edwards, Richardson, Brad Smith and Washington. We loose talent like these guys so we can afford the contracts we are committed to. When it is all said and done we are performing like the team we actually are not the one we talk like.
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Posted 30 October 2012 - 06:42 PM

What sort of careers have those guys had since leaving the team? Not much, and they are all overpaid for it.

Scott is here solely because of Ryan. Pace was overpaid, but he has been a valuable player for us jis entire time here. He 10-15% ovedpaid, not like Scott who has given the team one good season.

Its obvious Mike T leans on his coaches in player acquisition and right now he is failing as a GM be cause his HC doesn't know shit about it.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 30 October 2012 - 08:42 PM

If the season was to end today.

Teams that would need HCs are Jets,Bills,Chargers,KC,Panthers,Eagles,Cowboys,Browns and maybee the redskins and bengals.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 11:43 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 30 October 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

What sort of careers have those guys had since leaving the team? Not much, and they are all overpaid for it.

They were productive here and the person who replaced them has not been. We have lost productivity. If BE was still here he would be our #2 reciever who Mark had good chemistry with. Washington has been a productive player in Seattle as well. Neither are HOFers but they were solid players. More than what we replaced them with.

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Scott is here solely because of Ryan. Pace was overpaid, but he has been a valuable player for us jis entire time here. He 10-15% ovedpaid, not like Scott who has given the team one good season.

Its obvious Mike T leans on his coaches in player acquisition and right now he is failing as a GM be cause his HC doesn't know shit about it.

Ryan does not have the final say. To say he is here solely because of a guy who does not have the final say is not true. Tanny needs to make the best decision for the team. Pace was over paid for because Mangini did not want him going to Parcells and the Dolphins. The Dolphins ere smart enough to let him sign elswhere when the bidding got to high. His productivity is not worth his contract. 15% is a bit light in my opinion when you look at the contract as a whole not just year to year. He is a solid player but that is about it. As far as Rex not knowing talent that is probably true on the Offensive side. His biggest weakness is he is O illiterate and between Schotty and TS we do not have a guy who can evauluate that side of the ball. I have said this before and will again. We need a guy who can run the O all on his own so Rex can focus onthe D. If we do make a change at HC I hope it is a Offensive minded coach. It seems in todays NFL it is easier to get a DC that is capable more so than an OC.
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Posted 31 October 2012 - 02:57 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 31 October 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

They were productive here and the person who replaced them has not been. We have lost productivity. If BE was still here he would be our #2 reciever who Mark had good chemistry with. Washington has been a productive player in Seattle as well. Neither are HOFers but they were solid players. More than what we replaced them with.


Ryan does not have the final say. To say he is here solely because of a guy who does not have the final say is not true. Tanny needs to make the best decision for the team. Pace was over paid for because Mangini did not want him going to Parcells and the Dolphins. The Dolphins ere smart enough to let him sign elswhere when the bidding got to high. His productivity is not worth his contract. 15% is a bit light in my opinion when you look at the contract as a whole not just year to year. He is a solid player but that is about it. As far as Rex not knowing talent that is probably true on the Offensive side. His biggest weakness is he is O illiterate and between Schotty and TS we do not have a guy who can evauluate that side of the ball. I have said this before and will again. We need a guy who can run the O all on his own so Rex can focus onthe D. If we do make a change at HC I hope it is a Offensive minded coach. It seems in todays NFL it is easier to get a DC that is capable more so than an OC.


1) We might have replaced them with lesser players, but they also got raises. You can't keep everyone. All those guys have had issues and the team was right to let other teams have them.

2) This is just making excuses. The HC came in and wanted a guy, vouched for him, etc. To try and put blame on Tanny for that is just making excusss cor Ryan's favoritism.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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