[a1elbow2.0]

Turner, Garrett.

Ryan? Guy in Cleveland? Reid? Schwartz? Usually about seven anyway.

[Chaos]

Wasn't the Browns coach hired this offseason?

Marvin Lewis may be done. Ron Rivera is another guy who's probably on the hot seat.

[a1elbow2.0]

Crennel should get fired. I've been Googling for hours trying to find out why they aren't using Charles and cant find anything. They just randomly do stuff in KC this season on offense.

[Jetsman05]

Marvin Lewis may be done?!!! WHAT?!

No. That's a ridiculous shout. Unless they lose out, he's not going anywhere. He's been through worse and he has a young team, coming off the playoffs when he shouldn't of been there.

Rex is out.

[Chaos]

Jetsman05, on 28 October 2012 - 07:43 PM, said:

Marvin Lewis may be done?!!! WHAT?!

No. That's a ridiculous shout. Unless they lose out, he's not going anywhere. He's been through worse and he has a young team, coming off the playoffs when he shouldn't of been there.

Rex is out.

He's perpetually on the hot seat and he's been there for ages. If they don't have a strong finish I wouldn't be surprised if they switch things up.

Chan Gailey is a possibility is as well.

[Jetsman05]

Chaos, on 28 October 2012 - 08:06 PM, said:

He's perpetually on the hot seat and he's been there for ages. If they don't have a strong finish I wouldn't be surprised if they switch things up.

Chan Gailey is a possibility is as well.

The only way he gets fired is because it's the Bengals. One of the few franchises worse than the Jets.

He deserves another few seasons unless they turn into a putrid team.

[Mr_Jet]

Mike Holmgren isn't with the Browns anymore. I don't want him as our GM but as our head coach I could support that.

[FlyHiJets]

I actually think Rex will still be here next year to have a shot at turning it around since he has the excuse of injuries this season. If he doesn't return to the playoffs next year, he's out. One reason why he'll still be here and Sanchez will continue to be the starter? He's guaranteed 10 million in 2013 & the Jets are already 7 million OVER the salary cap.

[Chaos]

FlyHiJets, on 28 October 2012 - 09:15 PM, said:

I actually think Rex will still be here next year to have a shot at turning it around since he has the excuse of injuries this season. If he doesn't return to the playoffs next year, he's out. One reason why he'll still be here and Sanchez will continue to be the starter? He's guaranteed 10 million in 2013 & the Jets are already 7 million OVER the salary cap.

This is the most depressing Jets tidbit of the day. Sanchez isn't movable until 2014. His cap number is nearly $13 million next year. $13 million.

Even if the Jets find a way to get rid of him in 2014 if he doesn't turn it around, he's dead money against the cap until 2016.

Mr_Jet, on 28 October 2012 - 09:04 PM, said:

Mike Holmgren isn't with the Browns anymore. I don't want him as our GM but as our head coach I could support that.

Jets need to get acquainted with the 21st century offense. Does Gruden want to coach again?

[Mr_Jet]

Chaos, on 28 October 2012 - 09:37 PM, said:

Jets need to get acquainted with the 21st century offense. Does Gruden want to coach again?

Gruden is overrated.

[a1elbow2.0]

FlyHiJets, on 28 October 2012 - 07:15 PM, said:

I actually think Rex will still be here next year to have a shot at turning it around since he has the excuse of injuries this season. If he doesn't return to the playoffs next year, he's out. One reason why he'll still be here and Sanchez will continue to be the starter? He's guaranteed 10 million in 2013 & the Jets are already 7 million OVER the salary cap.

Holmes never has done anything special so what injuries are you talking about? The Jets lost keller for a few gamss and revis. You're grasping at straws if you are including anyone else.

[SecondHandJets]

Rex Ryan isn't going anywhere.

Ron Rivera and Norv Turner will be out before season end. Andy Reid and Romeo Crennel will be done. I can see Jason Garrett getting another season.

[azjetfan]

Rex is safe. He had a valid excuse for this year. No talent and injuries to his best two players. I would not be suprised to see TS either demoted to O-line Coach or fired. I am not saying it will happen but it could.

[Chaos]

azjetfan, on 30 October 2012 - 12:52 PM, said:

Rex is safe. He had a valid excuse for this year. No talent and injuries to his best two players. I would not be suprised to see TS either demoted to O-line Coach or fired. I am not saying it will happen but it could.

Doubt it. Why is Matt Cavanaugh still the QB though? He's been here since 2009 and he needs to be replaced if anything.

[a1elbow2.0]

Nothing is more surprising about this season than seeing Holmes get promoted from a guy we needed to dump because of his attitude and drops to the second best player on the team...so that people can excuse Ryan.

It is impressive that losing such a great receiver is an excuse for the HC to not be fired but nor for Sanchez to not be benched. I husss Holmss loss somehow has impacted the run defense, which probably isn't Ryan's fault anyway since he can't be blamed for anything.

[azjetfan]

a1elbow2.0, on 30 October 2012 - 12:17 PM, said:

Nothing is more surprising about this season than seeing Holmes get promoted from a guy we needed to dump because of his attitude and drops to the second best player on the team...so that people can excuse Ryan.

It is impressive that losing such a great receiver is an excuse for the HC to not be fired but nor for Sanchez to not be benched. I husss Holmss loss somehow has impacted the run defense, which probably isn't Ryan's fault anyway since he can't be blamed for anything.

That is a short sighted comment. You are assuming the people who give credit to Holmes are the same that wanted him gone.

Also If you think all the blame belongs on one person your crazy. If you think replacing one area Rex, Sanchez or whoever will make us a championship team you are very mistaken. We have deep issues from depth to starting talent. If we would have brought in Peyton Manning he would have performed better than Sanchez but we would still suck. This is not a quick fix. I doubt we will be competitive any time soon. We are probably a good 2-3 years out. In my opinion Tanny should be fired well before Rex. Tanny has not held up his end. He has not aquired talent and has signed players like Pace, Scott and Holmes to big deals. More than their market value. He also has let players we need walk like Edwards, Richardson, Brad Smith and Washington. We loose talent like these guys so we can afford the contracts we are committed to. When it is all said and done we are performing like the team we actually are not the one we talk like.

[a1elbow2.0]

What sort of careers have those guys had since leaving the team? Not much, and they are all overpaid for it.

Scott is here solely because of Ryan. Pace was overpaid, but he has been a valuable player for us jis entire time here. He 10-15% ovedpaid, not like Scott who has given the team one good season.

Its obvious Mike T leans on his coaches in player acquisition and right now he is failing as a GM be cause his HC doesn't know shit about it.

[MikeGangGreenFan2]

If the season was to end today.

Teams that would need HCs are Jets,Bills,Chargers,KC,Panthers,Eagles,Cowboys,Browns and maybee the redskins and bengals.

[azjetfan]

a1elbow2.0, on 30 October 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:

What sort of careers have those guys had since leaving the team? Not much, and they are all overpaid for it.

They were productive here and the person who replaced them has not been. We have lost productivity. If BE was still here he would be our #2 reciever who Mark had good chemistry with. Washington has been a productive player in Seattle as well. Neither are HOFers but they were solid players. More than what we replaced them with.

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Scott is here solely because of Ryan. Pace was overpaid, but he has been a valuable player for us jis entire time here. He 10-15% ovedpaid, not like Scott who has given the team one good season.

Its obvious Mike T leans on his coaches in player acquisition and right now he is failing as a GM be cause his HC doesn't know shit about it.

Ryan does not have the final say. To say he is here solely because of a guy who does not have the final say is not true. Tanny needs to make the best decision for the team. Pace was over paid for because Mangini did not want him going to Parcells and the Dolphins. The Dolphins ere smart enough to let him sign elswhere when the bidding got to high. His productivity is not worth his contract. 15% is a bit light in my opinion when you look at the contract as a whole not just year to year. He is a solid player but that is about it. As far as Rex not knowing talent that is probably true on the Offensive side. His biggest weakness is he is O illiterate and between Schotty and TS we do not have a guy who can evauluate that side of the ball. I have said this before and will again. We need a guy who can run the O all on his own so Rex can focus onthe D. If we do make a change at HC I hope it is a Offensive minded coach. It seems in todays NFL it is easier to get a DC that is capable more so than an OC.

[a1elbow2.0]

azjetfan, on 31 October 2012 - 10:43 AM, said:

They were productive here and the person who replaced them has not been. We have lost productivity. If BE was still here he would be our #2 reciever who Mark had good chemistry with. Washington has been a productive player in Seattle as well. Neither are HOFers but they were solid players. More than what we replaced them with.


Ryan does not have the final say. To say he is here solely because of a guy who does not have the final say is not true. Tanny needs to make the best decision for the team. Pace was over paid for because Mangini did not want him going to Parcells and the Dolphins. The Dolphins ere smart enough to let him sign elswhere when the bidding got to high. His productivity is not worth his contract. 15% is a bit light in my opinion when you look at the contract as a whole not just year to year. He is a solid player but that is about it. As far as Rex not knowing talent that is probably true on the Offensive side. His biggest weakness is he is O illiterate and between Schotty and TS we do not have a guy who can evauluate that side of the ball. I have said this before and will again. We need a guy who can run the O all on his own so Rex can focus onthe D. If we do make a change at HC I hope it is a Offensive minded coach. It seems in todays NFL it is easier to get a DC that is capable more so than an OC.

1) We might have replaced them with lesser players, but they also got raises. You can't keep everyone. All those guys have had issues and the team was right to let other teams have them.

2) This is just making excuses. The HC came in and wanted a guy, vouched for him, etc. To try and put blame on Tanny for that is just making excusss cor Ryan's favoritism.