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Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:18 PM) DeMario Davis seems like hes poised to have a breakout season at LB
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (16 August 2014 - 07:50 PM) It was nice seeing Pryor in, he made some plays. I think hes going to be the real deal and that we will hit on a stud with him
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:43 PM) The pick by Geno seemed to be more on Nelson. Nelson sat on his route. Geno threw it were he was supposed to be.
azjetfan Icon : (16 August 2014 - 08:44 PM) Who knows though
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) http://gfycat.com/Mi...idHookersealion
santana Icon : (16 August 2014 - 11:55 PM) Gotta fix that
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:35 PM) Is anyone else as concerned as I am about the secondary?
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:36 PM) I know it's preseason and all but even with Milliner in on the first game we gave up a TD on the first drive to the Colts
azjetfan Icon : (17 August 2014 - 01:37 PM) Patterson looked like me out there and Wilson got torched last night
Smedsthejet Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:26 PM) Concerned about the right side of the OLine too - too many penalties and Giacomini wasn't that much better than against the Colts when he was poor
SackExchange71 Icon : (17 August 2014 - 02:31 PM) Imo i still think howard is better then giacomini..Wish they never let him walk.Giacomini had alot of flags in seattle also
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:33 AM) Howard recieved a huge contract in Oakland. Way over his actual value.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 10:08 AM) So did we make a trade for a CB yet?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:51 PM) Milliner did suffer a high ankle sprain, that sucks. could linger all year
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (18 August 2014 - 03:52 PM) I think Patterson sucked vs the Colts because he was injured, which he always is.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:49 PM) As much as people criticized Tannanbaum for spending too much. It's starting to look like Idzik is going to be too cheap.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:37 PM) Corey Ivy CB
36 Jim Leonhard SS/PR
43 Haruki Nakamura FS
25 Evan Oglesby CB
20 Ed Reed FS
22 Samari Rolle CB
39 Daren Stone FS
41 Frank Walker CB
31 Fabian Washington in 2008
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:39 PM) Reed is a HOF but Rolle was way past his prime
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
MikeGangGree... Icon : (Yesterday, 07:41 PM) WOOOOOOOOOOOOO
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (Today, 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Today, 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:05 PM

What do we do? Do we think we can make a run for the playoffs or do we trade the dead weight to clear cap space for next year? I dont have a real good handle on how the cap works but I believe if we trade a guy with guaranteed money the new team is on the hook for the $ and we are penalized a % of their contract. Personally I think we will not make the playoffs. Here is who I would trade if we could get rid of the salary. Also who I would trade because they are on the last year of their contract

Sanchez
Scott
Greene
Keller
Pace
Holmes


I would keep

Revis
Mangold
Brick



I am sure there are players I am missing. Time for a Mini rebuild. Even if we trade a guy Like Scott or Pace for another player that is younger and more affordable. Who is the best back up QB right now?

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:14 PM

No one is going to trade for a receiver with a season ending injury(all he brought the Steelers was a fifth anyway) or two old LBs. Nobody will give anything good for Sanchez because any team bad enough to want him is better off just waiting for the draft. Maybe we could get a really late round pick for Greene, but with McKnight being a pussy and Powell having been nicked up it would be giving up on the season. So Keller has some value, but if I'm correct his contract is up after this season, so why bother trading for him?

This is the team we will probably have this year, unless the team trades for someone to keep their name in the headlines.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:28 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 29 October 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

No one is going to trade for a receiver with a season ending injury(all he brought the Steelers was a fifth anyway) or two old LBs. Nobody will give anything good for Sanchez because any team bad enough to want him is better off just waiting for the draft. Maybe we could get a really late round pick for Greene, but with McKnight being a pussy and Powell having been nicked up it would be giving up on the season. So Keller has some value, but if I'm correct his contract is up after this season, so why bother trading for him?

This is the team we will probably have this year, unless the team trades for someone to keep their name in the headlines.

I agree but this is about clearing cap space. Dropping dead weight. I believe Sanchez is owed $10 Million next year and Pace and Scott are over paid as well.
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 12:30 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 29 October 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

No one is going to trade for a receiver with a season ending injury(all he brought the Steelers was a fifth anyway) or two old LBs. Nobody will give anything good for Sanchez because any team bad enough to want him is better off just waiting for the draft. Maybe we could get a really late round pick for Greene, but with McKnight being a pussy and Powell having been nicked up it would be giving up on the season. So Keller has some value, but if I'm correct his contract is up after this season, so why bother trading for him?

This is the team we will probably have this year, unless the team trades for someone to keep their name in the headlines.


Agreed. There isn't much value for any of our players right now, other than perhaps David Harris and Antonio Cromartie, and both of them won't be moved. Even Tebow would garner less than we sent to Denver to acquire him. Maybe Kerley could fetch a mid-round pick, but again that isn't happening.

If we're going to say that we aren't in contention for the playoffs now, the best way to get value out of players is to plug in young players (eg Davis, Coples, Ducasse, McIntyre, maybe call up Jordan White from the practice squad) and give them extended playing time as opposed to playing the likes of Slauson, Scott and Schilens. Heck maybe even see what McElroy can do in the final few weeks of the year...
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 02:32 PM

View Postazjetfan, on 29 October 2012 - 11:28 AM, said:

I agree but this is about clearing cap space. Dropping dead weight. I believe Sanchez is owed $10 Million next year and Pace and Scott are over paid as well.


But it still requires a trade partner. I'd love to dump Scott, but someone has to want him and be willing to take on salary, rather than hoping we cut him and signing him to a smaller contract. Holmes isn't worth what we gave him healthy, which he isn't.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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