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MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:22 PM) How many starters are back from last year?
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:23 PM) They had to let defensive players go too. And that's why they refused to pay Chancellor. They don't have the money
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:24 PM) Most of the Defense is back from last season.. who besides the 2nd CB do they not have?
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:24 PM) I don't know how many starters. I didn't look through the whole active roster from last year to this year. But I know they let a good many starters go too
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:25 PM) Anyway we need them to win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:26 PM) it puts us in a 4 way tie for the WC
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:26 PM) Maybe Hou can win the division
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:26 PM) They had to let a corner and safety go from the defense and some dline from the starting line up. And some players on the online too
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:27 PM) That's why Russel isn't getting protection and Lynch is having a down year
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:28 PM) Yeah but you need to chr
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:29 PM) check my list of tiebreakers we are down in division and conference games. If the Jets don't beat the Bills and win most of the conference games no playoffs
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:31 PM) Plus we are down in schedule strength to everyone in the hunt for the playoffs except Houston but they have the win and tiebreaker against the Jets
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:32 PM) Oh and also the Bills are below us in schedule strength but have a win against us so have tiebreaker for now
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:33 PM) Chiefs have the easy schedule in the league got the rest of the season so chances of them not getting in are slim
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:35 PM) Chiefs and Stelers are in the drivers seat
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:36 PM) Right but there is a lot of games to go still
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:36 PM) who knows maybe we beat Tenn NYG Dal and Buf
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:36 PM) 10-6?? Maybe
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:36 PM) 1 game at a time I agree
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:36 PM) KC and Oakland have to play each other twice
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:38 PM) Pitt Still has to play Cinn and Denver
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:39 PM) Who they may beat.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:41 PM) We just need Sea to win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:41 PM) Game over
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:41 PM) Hawks win
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:42 PM) Well if they make the PAT
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:42 PM) My bad I thought Pitt had 0 timeouts left
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:46 PM) I don't trust Denver against any good team with their backup qb in. I except the Chiefs to overtake the division. They really don't trust him either since an injured Manning is the #2 qb. He barely won last week
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:47 PM) Ben is hurt now
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:47 PM) Don't think its anything big tho
ROBJETS Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:48 PM) But Steelers losing today and if they lose against the Bengals would help
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 07:55 PM) Ben has a possible concussion
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 08:08 PM) And Pitt plays Indy next week
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 08:09 PM) If Pittsburgh lose it help if indy lose Houston might be in 1st and have a tie breaker over indy
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 08:16 PM) I just can't wait for Sunday. Me and my brother are going to the game. He's a giants fan. So somebody is going home mad
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 10:46 PM) Where is frosty??.and his MIGHTY DOLPHINS
MikeGangGree... Icon : (29 November 2015 - 10:58 PM) Marshall is 70 yards away from being our 1st 1000 yard receiver since cotch in 07
MikeGangGree... Icon : (30 November 2015 - 12:03 AM) f*** new England!! And gronk is hurt
ROBJETS Icon : (30 November 2015 - 12:04 AM) Nice to see the Pats won't have an undefeated season. That said the wheat her made the difference. Brady is accurate as heck and the snow affected the pass timing with the wr's
ROBJETS Icon : (30 November 2015 - 12:06 AM) Without the snow I couldn't see the Broncos winning that game. But again great to see the Pats chance at a perfect season go down the tubes
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 November 2015 - 02:21 PM) Brandon Marshall is the best WR I've seen on the Jets
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 November 2015 - 02:23 PM) How bad is Marcus Williams injury?
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (30 November 2015 - 02:23 PM) I like how this guy has 5 INTs in limited playing time, he reminds me of Asante Samuel
Mr_Jet Icon : (30 November 2015 - 04:14 PM) After both losses to the Jets this year Miami fired some coaches. LOL
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Posted 05 November 2012 - 08:53 AM

Class of '12: Assessing the Jets' draft

A bye-week evaluation of the Jets' draft class, including an update on the five players chosen after the Jets' pick for all you second-guessers out there :


16. DE Quinton Coples -- He got off to a slow start, but his playing time has increased in recent weeks. He has received more action than any other Jets rookie. He has two sacks and five tackles-for-loss.

What might have been : 17. CB Dre Kirkpatrick, Bengals; 18. OLB Melvin Ingram, Chargers; 19. DE Shea McClellin, Bears; 20. WR Kendall Wright, Titans; 21. DE Chandler Jones, Patriots.

Skinny : The Jets needed an edge rusher in the worst way, and they passed on a good one. Jones has six sacks, three forced fumbles and could win NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year.


11. WR Stephen Hill -- He has experienced extreme highs and lows. Hill has four drops and he's as raw as sushi, still learning how to run pass routes. He has 14 catches, a 14.0 yard-per-catch average and 3 TDs.

What might have been: 12. OL Jeff Allen, Chiefs; 13. WR Alshon Jeffery, Bears; 14. LB Mychal Kendricks, Eagles; 15. LB Bobby Wagner, Seahawks; 16. S Tavon Wilson, Patriots.

Skinny: The only player that matters here, for the purpose of comparison, is Jeffery, whose stats are almost identical to those of Hill -- 14 catches, 13.1 average, 2 TDs.


14. LB DeMario Davis -- He has played the last two games for the injured Bart Scott. Davis brings a different dimension to the linebacking corps. He's more of a sideline-to-sideline player, as opposed to a downhill linebacker. He has 15 tackles.

What might have been: 15. TE Michael Egnew, Dolphins; 16. S Brandon Hardin, Bears; 17. DB Jamell Fleming, Cards; 18. DE Tyrone Crawford, Cowboys; 19. DT Mike Martin, Titans.

Skinny: No one jumps off the page here. Martin has two sacks in a reserve role; Fleming has started two games.


17. S Josh Bush -- He has been a solid contributor on special teams, but Bush -- a sleeper pick -- has yet to make any mark on defense. He has only two tackles in very limited action.

What might have been: 18. LB Danny Trevathan, Broncos; 19. DT Chris Bilukidi, Raiders; 20. S Markelle Martin, Titans; 21. RB Dan Herron, Bengals; 22. S Charles Mitchell, Falcons.

Skinny: No one has distinguished himself. Trevathan and Martin have small roles.


32., 33. RB Terrance Ganaway, OT Robert Griffin -- The Jets went 0-for-2 here, as neither player made the team. That's a surprise, because GM Mike Tannenbaum hates to cut draft picks.

What might have been: 34. LB Emmanuel Acho, Browns; 35. DT Billy Winn, Browns; 36. WR LaVon Brazill, Colts; 37. P Brad Nortman, Panthers; 1. (Seventh round) G Justin Anderson, Colts.

Skinny: The Browns found a nice player in Winn, who has started eight games and has one sack. You're doing well anytime you can find an immediate contributor this late in the draft.


35. S Antonio Allen, 37. WR Jordan White -- Allen was the Jets' best late-round pick in this draft. He was a key contributor on defense in the win over the Colts, covering the tight end. He has one sack and has the potential to be productive on special teams. White is on the practice squad.

What might have been: 36. QB B.J. Coleman, Packers; 38. DB Trevin Wade, Browns; 39. DB Terrence Frederick, Steelers; 40. TE Brad Smelley, Browns; 41. G Kelvin Beachum, Steelers.

Skinny: Any second-guessing this late in the draft would be irresponsible. The Jets are happy with Allen, and none of these other players have contributed.

Summary: The Jets found three starting-type players with Coples, Hill and Davis. By next year, all three should be regulars. Any draft that produces three starters has to be considered solid. But all three still need a lot of development, especially Hill, so it's hard to predict the upside of the draft. The Jets will hear years of criticism if Jones continues to shine and Coples turns out to be just a regular guy.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 03:05 PM

Good stuff. My only thing is we all know we have a young budding d-line. The question is are they all going to be average at best or will one or some of them develop into superstars. So far no one is really standing out but again they are still young. Here is to hoping.............

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