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Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 06:52 PM) You get what you pay for and when you let quality players go because you don't want to pay them, this is what happens. You're left with scrub players.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 07:55 PM) I'm still on board with the Idzik plan. Even with Revis and Revis we still are not going to the SB this year. But the down time sucks. If Milliner comes back healthy by week 3 or so we should be fine.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 08:18 PM) Regardless of our SB chances this year or next year. If Idzik keeps acting like a cheapskate and continues to let quality players go, we won't have to worry about winning much of anything this decade.
azjetfan Icon : (18 August 2014 - 09:36 PM) He wants to build through the draft. Not blow the bank on FA. I get what your saying but there is a balance and right now we are not one or two pieces away.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:00 PM) It's not about being one or two pieces away. It's about keeping the good pieces you have and building upon that.
Mr_Jet Icon : (18 August 2014 - 11:04 PM) But there is no sense in trying to build through the draft if he's only going to end up letting the good players he picks up go in FA after a few years. All because he wants to do things on the cheap.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:02 AM) FIRE IDZIK
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:33 AM) out side of Revis who left we should have kept?
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:34 AM) The Revis deal sucks but $16 million was too much for a CB and once he was gone he was not coming back.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 11:00 AM) Matt Slauson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:00 PM) Eh. I think with our current cap situation we will be able to retain guys like Wilkerson and whomever we want to keep. We are in a good position right now.
Mr_Jet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 01:49 PM) Time will tell.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:00 PM) landed revis abck. got DRC, nope we take patterson who got owned and always hurt. milner always hurt. 3rd round CB done for season. were gonna get passed on all day
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 02:44 PM) Yea the DRC bit makes me iffy
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 03:35 PM) better then patterson
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:45 PM) No I mean the fact that he whiffed on him.
azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 05:46 PM) I'm not saying Idzik is perfect. I just like the direction we are heading. It's going to take some patience.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:27 PM) I like how our lack of secondary is the hot topic right now. The bigger issue is we still will not be able to throw the ball. We are not going to do much of anything regardless until we get a QB. Sorry for being so negative just my honest opinion.
RetireChrebet Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:29 PM) With that said I think our running game with CJ and Powell will be top 10 or somewhere around there
Jetsfan115 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 06:35 PM) i have faith that if geno messes up that vick can come in and do well. but i have 0 faith in our secondary right now which has been our strong point for the past 4 years or so
MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:35 PM) I agree 115. but the one thing is Rex has done some good things in the past with shitty DBs and still had a solid D going back to his years in BAL
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MikeGangGree... Icon : (19 August 2014 - 07:41 PM) SNOOPY BOWL FRIDAY!!!
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azjetfan Icon : (19 August 2014 - 08:26 PM) I assume we will pick up a guy after the cuts happen.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (19 August 2014 - 10:14 PM) we'll see but I think we see better QB play than we have in a while.
518-JeTS-FaN Icon : (20 August 2014 - 08:54 AM) disgusted with my local programming, instead of jets and giants they are airing the raiders vs packers..wtf
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 09:23 AM) Glad I don't live up there anymore haha
ganggreen2003 Icon : (20 August 2014 - 06:59 PM) The JETS are #6 in the Forbes List for most franchise value
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jet-man Icon : (20 August 2014 - 10:03 PM) that's less than the clippers
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 01:07 PM) I'm very excited with the amount of preseason touchdowns the Jets have
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 03:21 PM) FIRE IDZIK
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 07:22 PM) Calvin Pryor and Darrin Walls will start tomorrow
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:52 PM) The SIMPSONS MARATHON has been on for almost 12 hours...
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 08:57 PM) Sanchez looks so much more confident and better in Chip's offense than he did with us
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 August 2014 - 09:50 PM) EVERY SIMPSONS EVER!!!!!
2JBallar01 Icon : (Yesterday, 07:10 AM) Sanchez is looking good for the eagles. Crazy how a good offense and the right system can make you look so much better. When you're put into a situatuon to succeed, magic happens. Happy for Sanchez, i think he needed a change just as much as the Jets did.
HarlemHxC814 Icon : (Yesterday, 08:02 AM) Preseason doesn't matter at all
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 11:10 AM) anyone have a stream for the preseaosn agme by chance?
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:06 PM) Don't read to much into Mark in the preseason. He usually looked good in the preseason even in a Jets uniform.. Big difference from regular season where the 1st string defense is playing 100%.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:09 PM) A lot of 1st stringers are just getting reps in and trying not to get injured. Its only the backups trying to keep or get a job playing hard every down. If preseason qb play meant anything then Matt Simms would be the starting qb of the Jets.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:17 PM

View PostMr_Jet, on 12 November 2012 - 06:24 AM, said:

McElroy has done nothing to warrant jumping from #3 to becoming the starter. Playing well against bunch of other 3rd stringers and guys who aren't even in the league right now? It wasn't even like he was playing lights out in the preseason against that 3rd string talent. He'd basically be Brooks Bollinger 7 years later.

Look, like it our not we had a traditional QB as a back up in Drew Stanton for about 2 weeks and then we decided to go after Tebow. I didn't understand it then and I still don't understand it today. But he's supposed to be the back up then let him start. I have never once heard of a team benching their starter and jumping to their 3rd string QB. Doesn't matter what we think Tebow can or can't do, he's the back up that's what he was brought in here to do. Frankly it doesn't matter if we were to start Tebow or McElroy because neither of them will play well and we'll likely end up losing the games they start either way.


It's really been seven years since Bollinger started a good portion of the season?! Time does fly!

Definitely a good point about Stanton. Trading him is the reason why certain fans are calling for the third stringer to replace Sanchez rather than go with Tebow. If that happens though, Rex and Tannenbaum are going to look completely daft; it would be a sign they have no confidence in Tebow being capable of starting at quarterback in the league and would make a mockery of the decision to trade draft picks to Denver for him. The New York media would have a field day with it too and you'd wonder whether either would be able to stay in their jobs at the end of season because of it. That's the main reason why McElroy will keep on wearing training gear on the sidelines.

Going back to the subject of the thread - Sanchez - yeah it's time to bench him. I don't hold much hope that his replacement will fare any better, however.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:21 PM

View Postchocomag, on 12 November 2012 - 03:06 PM, said:

Denver did it last year. They benched Orton and started 3rd stringer Tebow. Denver made the playoffs.


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Officially, Tebow is neither third string nor second string

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While doing some research (yes, I do some research . . . sometimes) for todayís PFT Live, I noticed something odd on the Broncos online depth chart.

Though itís widely believed that Tim Tebow is the third-string quarterback in Denver, he isnít. But he isnít the second-stringer, either.

On the teamís three-deep depth chart, the second string quarterback is ďBrady Quinn or Tim Tebow.Ē Given the elimination of the emergency quarterback rule, it doesnít matter whoís No. 2 or No. 3 if both guys will be among the 46 active players on game day. But the teamís reluctance to apply the official second-string or third-string label makes little sense.

It could be that the Broncos donít want to expose Tebow to the official indignity of being the third-string quarterback, and that the team also doesnít want Tebow to be in the on-deck circle behind the starter on a team that could once again struggle.

Either way, at some point the fans will demand ó loudly ó that Tebow plays. And it wonít matter where he is on the depth chart. For more, check out the first segment of todayís PFT Live.

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Posted 12 November 2012 - 03:31 PM

Its been time for the last few weeks. However Rex knows once he benches him its all over and I just don't think he's ready to pull the plug on Marks career.

Also you can tell Tebow had nothing to do with Rex. Rex wanted nothing to do with him. This was a move Woody made and Woody alone.

This team is awful and it starts from the top. Sanchez and Rex are just fall guys to the incompetence.
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Posted 12 November 2012 - 05:02 PM

View PostarizonaJETSfan, on 12 November 2012 - 03:45 AM, said:

McElroy hasnt had a CHANCE to do anything to warrant jumping under center. What, you think the Jets brought Teabag in to LEGIT be a starter? PUT THE SPAY PAINT DOWN!!! With the very few times he was under center last preseason before getting hurt, he looked MUCH more poised than Sanchez. I AM a sanchez supporter & thought McElroy getting hurt saved Mark for another year cause he would have put Mark on the bench. I dont care if Mc came off the dam farm from chuckin cow pies, give him a SHOT! we have NOTHING to lose.



See the use of the word "Teabag" shows that you're biased and not looking at this situation logically. YOU don't like Tebow so that's a good enough reason to skip him and go directly to McElroy. AS I'VE ALREADY SAID. I was not in favor of the trade for Tebow when it happened. I didn't understand it then and I understand it even less now. I'd prefer we had kept Drew Stanton or some other traditional QB. So I'm not a "Teabag" fan. He's a nice young man who while he was at Florida I thought like many others thought his game would not translate to the NFL. Now having said that you guys that are now jumping on the McElroy bandwagon are NOT because of anything he's done on the field. But because his name is neither "Sanchez (aka Shitchez)" or "Tebow (aka Teabag)" he gets to become the starter. So basically it's just who's ever next on the list. It could be quarterback John Generic as our 3rd string QB as long as it's not Sanchez or Tebow. Please save me the he showed poise in the PRESEASON argument. You had to have laughed right after you wrote that and you had to have known what I was going to reply with. Poise against a bunch of other 3rd stringers and guys who aren't in the league right now? Was that poise against guys like Ray Lewis or Justin Tuck? No it wasn't. If your going to bench your starter you don't just bypass your 2nd QB and go directly to your 3rd string QB. Especially just because some of the fans don't like the 2nd stringer and don't think he'll play well. Tebow get's his chance first not McElroy, that's why the depth chart is called the depth CHART. If McElroy wants to move up the depth chart he should have did it during training camp.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 13 November 2012 - 09:10 AM

The Jets are at this point now due to the lack of preseason touchdowns. Duh
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:04 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 11 November 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

Are you drunk? Trade Revis for players and picks? This ain't the NBA. And who in the hell would want to trade for Sanchez at this point? He's only hurting his trade value the more he plays.

not drunk just pissed off man...they suck
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View PostSoReALSoJetS, on 14 November 2012 - 01:04 AM, said:

not drunk just pissed off man...they suck


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View PostSoReALSoJetS, on 14 November 2012 - 01:04 AM, said:

not drunk just pissed off man...they suck


They do suck but that's no reason to throw the baby out with the bath water.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 12:14 AM

Apparently not...see my posts in early November calling for McElroy. It's about time and the right move to bypass Tebow.

View Post2JBallar01, on 11 November 2012 - 11:24 PM, said:

Can we ban the name McElroy on this site please? Possible?

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Posted 19 December 2012 - 08:01 AM

Just because the team holds onto Tebow to make money doesn't make him the number two. His "#2" tag has been about as illegitimate this year as you can get. Since when does a team skip it's number two QB and go to number three? How about, since when does a team refuse to play it's number two under any circumstance, including extremely poor performance by the starer? The coaching staff clearly has no faith in Tebow and hasn't. Pretending like he is getting bypassed for an opportunity is a joke.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 19 December 2012 - 09:21 AM

View PostMr_Jet, on 12 November 2012 - 12:24 AM, said:

McElroy has done nothing to warrant jumping from #3 to becoming the starter. Playing well against bunch of other 3rd stringers and guys who aren't even in the league right now? It wasn't even like he was playing lights out in the preseason against that 3rd string talent. He'd basically be Brooks Bollinger 7 years later.

Look, like it our not we had a traditional QB as a back up in Drew Stanton for about 2 weeks and then we decided to go after Tebow. I didn't understand it then and I still don't understand it today. But he's supposed to be the back up then let him start. I have never once heard of a team benching their starter and jumping to their 3rd string QB. Doesn't matter what we think Tebow can or can't do, he's the back up that's what he was brought in here to do. Frankly it doesn't matter if we were to start Tebow or McElroy because neither of them will play well and we'll likely end up losing the games they start either way.

I don't think you are getting it. Stop thinking like someone who wants to win and do the right thing. This is the Jets. The reason they aren't putting Tebow out there is that if he does well, us - the fans and the prsss will be screaming that he was screwed and this should have been done a long time ago. McElroy gives us some of that but nowhere near as much and only in the NY press.

I am a McElroy fan - insomuch as I think a kid who played 4 years of college for a national powerhouse and takes them to a championship after having an amazing high school career deserves a chance. I think he has the head for the game which we all know Sanchez did not. If he can handle the pressure and read defenses we are way ahead of where we are with Sanchez. But - I do believe Tebow has been screwed royally by us and would have understood that the right thing to do was to start Tebow.

This Jet brain trust has made some of the worst moves I have ever seen - the most egregious being the contract afforded Sanchez because they hurt his feelings going after Manning. But there have been a number of them. It's time to clean house and find a GM who is proven and let him get the coach or keep Ryan. My problem with Ryan is everytime I read he talks to others in the Jets organization about who should start and then he decides. Can you imagine Bellichick or Parcells walking around asking others who he should start?
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Posted 19 December 2012 - 01:02 PM

View Postchocomag, on 19 December 2012 - 09:21 AM, said:

I don't think you are getting it. Stop thinking like someone who wants to win and do the right thing. This is the Jets. The reason they aren't putting Tebow out there is that if he does well, us - the fans and the prsss will be screaming that he was screwed and this should have been done a long time ago. McElroy gives us some of that but nowhere near as much and only in the NY press.

I am a McElroy fan - insomuch as I think a kid who played 4 years of college for a national powerhouse and takes them to a championship after having an amazing high school career deserves a chance. I think he has the head for the game which we all know Sanchez did not. If he can handle the pressure and read defenses we are way ahead of where we are with Sanchez. But - I do believe Tebow has been screwed royally by us and would have understood that the right thing to do was to start Tebow.

This Jet brain trust has made some of the worst moves I have ever seen - the most egregious being the contract afforded Sanchez because they hurt his feelings going after Manning. But there have been a number of them. It's time to clean house and find a GM who is proven and let him get the coach or keep Ryan. My problem with Ryan is everytime I read he talks to others in the Jets organization about who should start and then he decides. Can you imagine Bellichick or Parcells walking around asking others who he should start?


Why are you arguing with things I said over a month ago? The Jets have played 5 games since I wrote that. Things change and viewpoints change. What frustrated me back then was some people around here were trying to justify their argument for starting McElroy by talking about his performance in the preseason when he was playing against much lesser talent. Basically what I was saying is that it doesn't matter who we start Tebow or McElory because there are still going to be growing pains and we'd still likely lose those games anyway.
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View PostFlyHiJets, on 01 June 2013 - 08:35 PM, said:

You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


View Postazjetfan, on 02 July 2014 - 03:36 PM, said:

There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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