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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
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Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Jet Teammates Rip Backup Tim Tebow, Believe 'terrible' Quarterback Hasn't Improved More anonymous sources...

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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:01 AM

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Tebowmania may have captivated the NFL last season, but Tim Tebow’s new team doesn’t believe that he’s a savior.

More than a dozen Jets players and members of the organization painted a sobering picture of the player who rallied the Broncos to the playoffs last season. In their eyes, he’s simply not very good.

The prevailing thought in the organization is that Tebow is nothing more than a gimmick.

“He’s terrible,” a defensive starter told the Daily News.

Although Tebow told The News last month that he has made improvements as a quarterback over the past few months, none of the people in the organization who spoke to The News shared that sentiment.

Both offensive and defensive players admitted that they hadn’t noticed any appreciable improvement in Tebow’s quarterback skills in practice since he was traded to the Jets in March. Tebow has been a poor practice player throughout his career. His current teammates echoed sentiments from Denver Broncos players a year ago about the lefthanded signal caller’s poor practice performance.

The 3-6 Jets’ dwindling playoff chances haven’t changed this mind-set in the locker room: Tebow isn’t a panacea.

Despite Mark Sanchez’s league-low 52% completion rate and league-high four red-zone interceptions, the players believe he should remain the starter over Tebow, who has accounted for only 132 total yards and averaged seven offensive snaps per game. Rex Ryan has backed Sanchez without publicly guaranteeing that he will be the starting quarterback for the rest of the season.

Left guard Matt Slauson, who has repeatedly supported Sanchez, made it clear that the fourth-year signal caller is the Jets’ best quarterback.

“It’s not even close,” Slauson said. “All the other quarterbacks know it. I have all the confidence in Mark. We don’t really have a choice.”

When asked about the team’s two other quarterbacks on the depth chart as possible alternatives — Tebow and Greg McElroy — Slauson clarified that the Jets really have only one other quarterback.

“We have Greg . . . and we have an athlete,” Slauson said.


But could the Jets win with Tebow as the No. 1 quarterback?

Do I have to answer that question?” a veteran starter said, shaking his head.

To most of the people in the organization, Tebow is nothing more than a specialty player who doesn’t have the requisite skills to be a true quarterback in the league. “We don’t look at him as a quarterback,” another starter said. “He’s the Wildcat guy.”

The designation dismisses Tebow’s success in Denver last season. Despite Tebow’s magic from a year ago, the Jets still view Sanchez as a much better option and have no immediate plans to bench him, according to sources. None of the members of the organization interviewed by The News believed that a zone-read offense tailored to Tebow’s strengths can help the Jets reverse their fortunes.

“Hell, no!” another starter said. “You got to keep defenses honest. You just can’t line up in the Wildcat all the time. That won’t work.”

Tebow’s legs provide a tempting alternative for the Jets’ slumping offense. “That’s the real threat he brings,” defensive lineman Mike DeVito said.

“He’s a winner,” said a Jets source, who made it clear that even though he wanted Tebow to get more playing time, Sanchez should remain the starter. “If he stays on the field long enough, usually good things happen.”

But most members of the Jets don’t believe that what they saw from Tebow last season is sustainable. “We can’t win running that sh--,” one player said.

They think Tebow’s heroics in Denver were a mirage.

“Now we’re depending on miracles?” a member of the organization said. “You can’t play that way.”

However, Sanchez’s poor play raises legitimate questions about whether a change — if only temporary — is in order for a team that has lost nine of the last 12 games dating back to last season.

The decision-makers don’t think that’s the right course of action. “It would take extreme poor play. . . . like a five-interception game,” said a prominent member of the organization. “Something where it was just ridiculous. It would take Mark to totally just sh-- the bed and become unglued (before there was a quarterback change).”

The organization has factored Sanchez’s weak supporting cast of skill position players into the equation.

“Look at some of the players he’s throwing to,” a Jets official said. “It’s garbage.”

Said another Jets source: “I’ve seen better receiving corps in college than we have on our team.”


So, who wants Tebow to be the starter?

“Nobody,” a member of the team said.


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:19 AM

At least one anonymous source put down his name, too bad he isn't anyone whose opinion I care about. But none of this is a surprise. The Jets as an organization obviously don't want Tebow playing. So the question becomes why was he brought in here? Teams were originally put off by a bonus (or something likethat-it was five million dollars) but the Jets dealt with it, but since have not used him. I personally don't think Tebow is worth the headache he brings, but what did the Jets see in him that was worth a draft pick and worth paying him money that a first round pick gets? (rhetorical! it is money)

Also, this team needs to STFU.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:35 AM

1. I'm glad Slauson and DeVito are man enough to stick their name to their words.

2. Who the hell is his source now? People were blaming Burress after last season's gut wrenching unraveling.

3. Whatever happened to the concept of a TEAM?? Every inch of this organization is pathetic. From ownership to management to players. This collection of people is making it really hard to root for them week after week. I can deal with a losing team. But this? This is painful as a fan. QB or not, Tebow is your teammate. Why would you rip him?

4. I REALLY REALLY AM MISSING MANGINI'S NO MEDIA POLICY. That shit was like Guantanamo and damn did it work. Really sucked from a fan's perspective but it's better than this crap.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:45 AM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 14 November 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

At least one anonymous source put down his name, too bad he isn't anyone whose opinion I care about. But none of this is a surprise. The Jets as an organization obviously don't want Tebow playing. So the question becomes why was he brought in here? Teams were originally put off by a bonus (or something likethat-it was five million dollars) but the Jets dealt with it, but since have not used him. I personally don't think Tebow is worth the headache he brings, but what did the Jets see in him that was worth a draft pick and worth paying him money that a first round pick gets? (rhetorical! it is money)

Also, this team needs to STFU.


This article is eerily similar of the hatchet job Mehta did on Sanchez at the end of last season, what with the volume of anonymous sources quoted. For that reason, I wouldn't be inclined to tell the team to shut up because you don't know who exactly is speaking and how many sources there actually are. It could be one other sources, referred to differently each time in order to make it seem as though a number of people within the organisation are blasting Tebow. Who exactly is a 'prominent member of the organization'? And what exactly differentiates him from a mere 'member of the organization'?
Fair play to Matt Slauson and DeVito for going on the record, but the balance between quotes attributed on and off the record is woefully imbalanced.
It's smacks of the kind of journalism you get when a team is 3-6, underachieiving and with the most opinion-splitting quarterback on its roster.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:48 AM

None of you have seen Tebow throw in person. I have. I 100% agree with Slausen and DeVito. Tebow is terrible and he should not be starting at QB for an NFL team.

For those crying about "team unity". Guess what? This team is united BEHIND SANCHEZ. It may not be what YOU like, but the guys that go to work with Mark and Tim everyday are choosing Mark. Get over it.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 10:52 AM

View PostSmedsthejet, on 14 November 2012 - 10:45 AM, said:

This article is eerily similar of the hatchet job Mehta did on Sanchez at the end of last season, what with the volume of anonymous sources quoted. For that reason, I wouldn't be inclined to tell the team to shut up because you don't know who exactly is speaking and how many sources there actually are. It could be one other sources, referred to differently each time in order to make it seem as though a number of people within the organisation are blasting Tebow. Who exactly is a 'prominent member of the organization'? And what exactly differentiates him from a mere 'member of the organization'?
Fair play to Matt Slauson and DeVito for going on the record, but the balance between quotes attributed on and off the record is woefully imbalanced.
It's smacks of the kind of journalism you get when a team is 3-6, underachieiving and with the most opinion-splitting quarterback on its roster.


I understand the issue with the anonymous sources but he was right last time and even Rex came out and said he lost pulse of the team. I'm inclined to accept his article again. Manish's job is to write stories that get his news group attention. He's doing that. He wasn't lying last time and I'm willing to accept it this time. The Jets have the ability to put at end to this but they just keep putting on a shit show. The team is filled with idiots from top to bottom. Honestly, I'm inclined to feel bad for Tebow. The guy got traded here thinking he had a chance at the starting job if Sanchez laid an egg. Sanchez did that part beautifully yet he still can't get the job. Unconventional player or not, the guy plays with heart and this team desperately needs that.

View PostSecondHandJets, on 14 November 2012 - 10:48 AM, said:

None of you have seen Tebow throw in person. I have. I 100% agree with Slausen and DeVito. Tebow is terrible and he should not be starting at QB for an NFL team.

For those crying about "team unity". Guess what? This team is united BEHIND SANCHEZ. It may not be what YOU like, but the guys that go to work with Mark and Tim everyday are choosing Mark. Get over it.


Team unity is more that saying "We support Sanchez." There is no need to go bash Tebow. As fans we can do that. Teammates should not be doing that in the media. Keep it in house or to yourself.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 12:41 PM

Once again Rex lost control in the locker room. Can't blame Holmes this time. He's not here. Tebow didn't ask for this. Woody and Tanny wanted it Rex followed along with it. This team made no plans to pick up any back up players again and only focus on that one guy that can take away the attention from the Giants. Bill Cowher can change this quick
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 01:42 PM

1 It doesn't matter who the source is. We all knew Tebow was a work in progress at the QB position when we got him.........he's not improving........are we suprised? I'm not.

2 We all hoped Sanchez would be "the one"......career 50% passer, leads the league in red zone int's, went to 2 AFC Championships thanks to the run game and Rex's D........also not improving. I'm dissapointed, not surprised.

3 Most of us wanted Shotty OUT. Well, we got our wish.....happy!!!! I'm not.

4 I can go on and on, but I'll stop here. I wish I had all the answers, but as a fan, I'm going to quote one of the better defensive minds in football......I just wanna win!!!!
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:35 PM

View PostChaos, on 14 November 2012 - 11:35 AM, said:

1. I'm glad Slauson and DeVito are man enough to stick their name to their words.

2. Who the hell is his source now? People were blaming Burress after last season's gut wrenching unraveling.

3. Whatever happened to the concept of a TEAM?? Every inch of this organization is pathetic. From ownership to management to players. This collection of people is making it really hard to root for them week after week. I can deal with a losing team. But this? This is painful as a fan. QB or not, Tebow is your teammate. Why would you rip him?

4. I REALLY REALLY AM MISSING MANGINI'S NO MEDIA POLICY. That shit was like Guantanamo and damn did it work. Really sucked from a fan's perspective but it's better than this crap.



Even with that, there was anonymous sources bashing Mangini. Whenever there is losing involved the anonymous sources come out. I respect the people that put their name to it, if you are going to say something at least be man enough to put a name on it...
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 02:59 PM

Which defensive players are calling him garbage? Really, I would love to know. I'd also love to know if they were the ones on the field when Tebow shredded them on that winning 95 yard drive last season
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 03:22 PM

This all may be true but the way it's written just reeks of something you would read in the National Enquirer. That's not good journalism.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 04:03 PM

According to Rex, Teblow is a beast on the punt team. Wedge Blocker extraordinaire. Nothing to worry about. He believe this team is intact after all this drama. He's a complete baffoon. Posted ImagePosted Image
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 05:33 PM

Jets just keep digging themselves into deepers holes... at this rate,nothing less than a Superbowl win would keep people from totally abandoning this team..and it this rate,Schotty is gonna have the last laugh this weekend smh..
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 06:56 PM

My question is when are the guys who are complaining about Tebow going to improve themselves? They're pointing their finger at Tebow (and rightly so) but they got three more pointing right back at them. Nobody on this team has room to criticize somebody else for not improving and playing badly. When it comes to this team's horrible play, everybody from Woody Johnson all the way down to the practice squad players need to look themselves in the mirror and ask themselves first "what can I do better to help get this team winning again?" I can tell you one thing, infighting is not going to do that.

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You're the scumbag that thinks everyone should kiss the as$es of a bunch of criminals but I'm a dumbass. Yeah okay douchebag. Go give some illegal wetback or Revis another blowjob. But then again.....don't you live in an entirely different country but yet think you can tell us how to live? Go fvck yourself little boy. You're likely still living with mommy & daddy. Pu$$y.


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There are a few things I have realized about Mr. Jet over a few topics.

1) He is a racist. By constantly using race as a battling tool.
2) He is an extreme Liberal. If you are on either extreme you are probabaly more wrong than right.
3) He is one of those people who will never admit fault, error or defeat.
4)His life sucks and he takes it out on people who don't share in his views.
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Posted 14 November 2012 - 08:42 PM

Rex said he's not letting outside forces stop us from being a team. HELLO..... this was an inside job. Noone outside of the jets cause this drama. He is completely out of touch with this team. We saw it last year and its another repeat this year. Can't blames Holmes this time.
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