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ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:08 PM


STUDS:
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:14 PM

Hill is really struggling. I was very unhappy with his performance all year.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:02 PM

View PostJSOTF, on 18 November 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

Hill is really struggling. I was very unhappy with his performance all year.


He may have the worst hands I have EVER seen.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:03 PM

Hill makes Justin McCareins look like Marvin Harrison
Sal Paolantonio commenting on the difference in the Ryan and Mangini atmospheres in the building:
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:07 PM

View PostThe Reverend, on 18 November 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

Hill makes Justin McCareins look like Marvin Harrison


please dont mention that name ever haha

watching the highlights
anyone think that td pass sanchez to chaz looked horribly thrown?

also eric smith should probably be listed as a stud i didnt watch the whole game but i saw the highlight of him picking off a pass
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:15 PM

View Postsantana, on 18 November 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

please dont mention that name ever haha

watching the highlights
anyone think that td pass sanchez to chaz looked horribly thrown?


Bad throw to a wide open WR but he'll get a pass bc the Rams were so utterly inept. There were at least two passes I remember him throwing that should have been picked
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:28 PM

View Postsantana, on 18 November 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

please dont mention that name ever haha

watching the highlights
anyone think that td pass sanchez to chaz looked horribly thrown?

also eric smith should probably be listed as a stud i didnt watch the whole game but i saw the highlight of him picking off a pass


You mean, a wide open receiver shouldn't have to do a pirouette to catch a pass when he had plenty of room and should have been able to run under a ball?
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:32 PM

View PostMoMilk1991, on 18 November 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

You mean, a wide open receiver shouldn't have to do a pirouette to catch a pass when he had plenty of room and should have been able to run under a ball?


yes.
looked like chaz had to break his neck to adjust and find that thing

mo milk also a stud forcing a fumble
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:35 PM



you can see it here at 1:10
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:40 PM

How many plays did Tebow get? Pretty much missed the whole game but from the box score it doesn't look to be a lot. Glad they decided to how to use him. No more killing the momentum.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:52 PM

View PostChaos, on 18 November 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

How many plays did Tebow get? Pretty much missed the whole game but from the box score it doesn't look to be a lot. Glad they decided to how to use him. No more killing the momentum.


http://www.nfl.com/v...ebow-highlights

nfl.com of course has a video of all of the tebow highlights

its crazy how much press tebow gets
i don't think i have ever seen a highlight clip just focused on a single player on nfl.com
a backup player at that
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 09:46 PM

Absolutely nothing wrong with that throw from Sanchez. Sanchez can throw for 4 tds and you guys would complain about his choice of gatorade.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:56 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 19 November 2012 - 03:46 AM, said:

Absolutely nothing wrong with that throw from Sanchez. Sanchez can throw for 4 tds and you guys would complain about his choice of gatorade.


But in order to get any credit, Mark has to execute a play perfectly and get maximum style points...

Overall, he had a good, efficient game and completed 75% of his throws. Despite getting hit and pressured a few times early on, he hung in there, while the offensive line made some adjustments and stymied the Rams' pass rush after half time.

Studs:
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Powell
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Sanchez

Props to Folk too for kicking two FGs from beyond 50. Sure he missed two, but the blocked attempt was Ferguson's fault, while the 47 yarder he missed came at a time when the game was essentially over as a contest.

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Hill

Also wasn't impressed by Ellis Lankster giving it the big I am and gesturing towards the St Louis bench whenever he made a play. He had a nice breakup of a pass (though could have picked it off), but I didn't really see that as something to go wild about.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:24 AM

Studs
Sanchez
Wilkerson
Harris
Smith
WIlson
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Greene
mcknight
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:20 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 November 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

Absolutely nothing wrong with that throw from Sanchez. Sanchez can throw for 4 tds and you guys would complain about his choice of gatorade.



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But in order to get any credit, Mark has to execute a play perfectly and get maximum style points...Overall, he had a good, efficient game and completed 75% of his throws. Despite getting hit and pressured a few times early on, he hung in there, while the offensive line made some adjustments and stymied the Rams' pass rush after half time. Studs:WilkersonLandryPowellSmithBellSchilensSanchezProps to Folk too for kicking two FGs from beyond 50. Sure he missed two, but the blocked attempt was Ferguson's fault, while the 47 yarder he missed came at a time when the game was essentially over as a contest.Duds:HillAlso wasn't impressed by Ellis Lankster giving it the big I am and gesturing towards the St Louis bench whenever he made a play. He had a nice breakup of a pass (though could have picked it off), but I didn't really see that as something to go wild about.


say what you will
that throw was putrid

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:39 PM

View Postsantana, on 19 November 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

say what you will
that throw was putrid

PUTRID


Yes, it was a bad throw, BUT, it was a TD, not the usual result.

Did you see that sweet 18 yard touch throw to McKnight?

Not saying he was GREAT...But he didnt turn it over.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:48 PM

View PostJSOTF, on 19 November 2012 - 11:39 AM, said:

Yes, it was a bad throw, BUT, it was a TD, not the usual result.

Did you see that sweet 18 yard touch throw to McKnight?

Not saying he was GREAT...But he didnt turn it over.


That was marks best throw of the season. Still the toughest throw i've seen him make was still this one




thats a 58 yard thorugh the air froze rope with zip hitting BE in stride between 2 defenders. tehn he followed up with a perfect pass to holmes. I miss that sanchez. what happened to him? honestly I think he lacks trust in his WRs to make a play so he throws it away form defenders where they can't get it so he doesn't get picked by WRs need to adjust or dive for it, instead of getting it in stride
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:48 PM

View Postsantana, on 19 November 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

say what you will
that throw was putrid

PUTRID


Nothing wrong with that throw at all. Sanchez pumped the safety off and threw it over his head where Schillens was going to be. If anything, I think Schillens was surprised by how open he got and did a triple axel.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:23 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 19 November 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

Nothing wrong with that throw at all. Sanchez pumped the safety off and threw it over his head where Schillens was going to be. If anything, I think Schillens was surprised by how open he got and did a triple axel.


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sanchez didn't throw it over anyone's head. he pump faked to the short route below to kerley then aimed for chaz who was completely open. chaz had no one over the top of him but still was forced to slam on the breaks at about the 5 yard line to come back to the ball. not only that the ball was coming at an angle that i'm surprised sanchez didn't sail it over his head. it looked like a back shoulder type of play but was completely unnecessary as chaz had nothing but free space all around him nothing but daylight in front of him. that window was so massive it just looks horribly thrown.

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