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MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 08:59 AM) It's going to cost us 6 because we are going to have to outbid a bunch of teams
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (Yesterday, 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (Yesterday, 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 04:08 PM


STUDS:
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 06:14 PM

Hill is really struggling. I was very unhappy with his performance all year.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:02 PM

View PostJSOTF, on 18 November 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

Hill is really struggling. I was very unhappy with his performance all year.


He may have the worst hands I have EVER seen.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:03 PM

Hill makes Justin McCareins look like Marvin Harrison
Sal Paolantonio commenting on the difference in the Ryan and Mangini atmospheres in the building:
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:07 PM

View PostThe Reverend, on 18 November 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

Hill makes Justin McCareins look like Marvin Harrison


please dont mention that name ever haha

watching the highlights
anyone think that td pass sanchez to chaz looked horribly thrown?

also eric smith should probably be listed as a stud i didnt watch the whole game but i saw the highlight of him picking off a pass
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:15 PM

View Postsantana, on 18 November 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

please dont mention that name ever haha

watching the highlights
anyone think that td pass sanchez to chaz looked horribly thrown?


Bad throw to a wide open WR but he'll get a pass bc the Rams were so utterly inept. There were at least two passes I remember him throwing that should have been picked
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:28 PM

View Postsantana, on 18 November 2012 - 08:07 PM, said:

please dont mention that name ever haha

watching the highlights
anyone think that td pass sanchez to chaz looked horribly thrown?

also eric smith should probably be listed as a stud i didnt watch the whole game but i saw the highlight of him picking off a pass


You mean, a wide open receiver shouldn't have to do a pirouette to catch a pass when he had plenty of room and should have been able to run under a ball?
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:32 PM

View PostMoMilk1991, on 18 November 2012 - 08:28 PM, said:

You mean, a wide open receiver shouldn't have to do a pirouette to catch a pass when he had plenty of room and should have been able to run under a ball?


yes.
looked like chaz had to break his neck to adjust and find that thing

mo milk also a stud forcing a fumble
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:35 PM



you can see it here at 1:10
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:40 PM

How many plays did Tebow get? Pretty much missed the whole game but from the box score it doesn't look to be a lot. Glad they decided to how to use him. No more killing the momentum.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 08:52 PM

View PostChaos, on 18 November 2012 - 08:40 PM, said:

How many plays did Tebow get? Pretty much missed the whole game but from the box score it doesn't look to be a lot. Glad they decided to how to use him. No more killing the momentum.


http://www.nfl.com/v...ebow-highlights

nfl.com of course has a video of all of the tebow highlights

its crazy how much press tebow gets
i don't think i have ever seen a highlight clip just focused on a single player on nfl.com
a backup player at that
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 09:46 PM

Absolutely nothing wrong with that throw from Sanchez. Sanchez can throw for 4 tds and you guys would complain about his choice of gatorade.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:56 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 19 November 2012 - 03:46 AM, said:

Absolutely nothing wrong with that throw from Sanchez. Sanchez can throw for 4 tds and you guys would complain about his choice of gatorade.


But in order to get any credit, Mark has to execute a play perfectly and get maximum style points...

Overall, he had a good, efficient game and completed 75% of his throws. Despite getting hit and pressured a few times early on, he hung in there, while the offensive line made some adjustments and stymied the Rams' pass rush after half time.

Studs:
Wilkerson
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Powell
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Sanchez

Props to Folk too for kicking two FGs from beyond 50. Sure he missed two, but the blocked attempt was Ferguson's fault, while the 47 yarder he missed came at a time when the game was essentially over as a contest.

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Hill

Also wasn't impressed by Ellis Lankster giving it the big I am and gesturing towards the St Louis bench whenever he made a play. He had a nice breakup of a pass (though could have picked it off), but I didn't really see that as something to go wild about.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:24 AM

Studs
Sanchez
Wilkerson
Harris
Smith
WIlson
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Greene
mcknight
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Kerly

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:20 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 November 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

Absolutely nothing wrong with that throw from Sanchez. Sanchez can throw for 4 tds and you guys would complain about his choice of gatorade.



View PostSmedsthejet, on 19 November 2012 - 04:56 AM, said:

But in order to get any credit, Mark has to execute a play perfectly and get maximum style points...Overall, he had a good, efficient game and completed 75% of his throws. Despite getting hit and pressured a few times early on, he hung in there, while the offensive line made some adjustments and stymied the Rams' pass rush after half time. Studs:WilkersonLandryPowellSmithBellSchilensSanchezProps to Folk too for kicking two FGs from beyond 50. Sure he missed two, but the blocked attempt was Ferguson's fault, while the 47 yarder he missed came at a time when the game was essentially over as a contest.Duds:HillAlso wasn't impressed by Ellis Lankster giving it the big I am and gesturing towards the St Louis bench whenever he made a play. He had a nice breakup of a pass (though could have picked it off), but I didn't really see that as something to go wild about.


say what you will
that throw was putrid

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 02:39 PM

View Postsantana, on 19 November 2012 - 12:20 PM, said:

say what you will
that throw was putrid

PUTRID


Yes, it was a bad throw, BUT, it was a TD, not the usual result.

Did you see that sweet 18 yard touch throw to McKnight?

Not saying he was GREAT...But he didnt turn it over.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:48 PM

View PostJSOTF, on 19 November 2012 - 11:39 AM, said:

Yes, it was a bad throw, BUT, it was a TD, not the usual result.

Did you see that sweet 18 yard touch throw to McKnight?

Not saying he was GREAT...But he didnt turn it over.


That was marks best throw of the season. Still the toughest throw i've seen him make was still this one




thats a 58 yard thorugh the air froze rope with zip hitting BE in stride between 2 defenders. tehn he followed up with a perfect pass to holmes. I miss that sanchez. what happened to him? honestly I think he lacks trust in his WRs to make a play so he throws it away form defenders where they can't get it so he doesn't get picked by WRs need to adjust or dive for it, instead of getting it in stride
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 05:48 PM

View Postsantana, on 19 November 2012 - 02:20 PM, said:

say what you will
that throw was putrid

PUTRID


Nothing wrong with that throw at all. Sanchez pumped the safety off and threw it over his head where Schillens was going to be. If anything, I think Schillens was surprised by how open he got and did a triple axel.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 06:23 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 19 November 2012 - 05:48 PM, said:

Nothing wrong with that throw at all. Sanchez pumped the safety off and threw it over his head where Schillens was going to be. If anything, I think Schillens was surprised by how open he got and did a triple axel.


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sanchez didn't throw it over anyone's head. he pump faked to the short route below to kerley then aimed for chaz who was completely open. chaz had no one over the top of him but still was forced to slam on the breaks at about the 5 yard line to come back to the ball. not only that the ball was coming at an angle that i'm surprised sanchez didn't sail it over his head. it looked like a back shoulder type of play but was completely unnecessary as chaz had nothing but free space all around him nothing but daylight in front of him. that window was so massive it just looks horribly thrown.

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