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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
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Stephen Hill Is Terrible

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Posted 18 November 2012 - 11:12 PM

In all seriousness, how terrible are his hands? I've never seen a WR drop this many catches that literally bounce off his hands. I'll take Schillens as the #2 and Gates as #3. The fact that we traded up to get him is really not sitting well with me.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 11:18 PM

They are awful, hes a body catcher and lacks concentration. It seems like he drops some passes because hes thinking about after the catch. I rather have gotten Alshon Jeffery who was a hands catcher, my worry with him was if he could stay in good shape but he has those big hands to be a nice pass catcher. Hill blows, probably never lives up to his talent.
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 11:19 PM

View PostJetsfan0099, on 18 November 2012 - 11:18 PM, said:

They are awful, hes a body catcher and lacks concentration. It seems like he drops some passes because hes thinking about after the catch. I rather have gotten Alshon Jeffery who was a hands catcher, my worry with him was if he could stay in good shape but he has those big hands to be a nice pass catcher. Hill blows, probably never lives up to his talent.


What is his talent?
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 11:40 PM

Hate to say I told you so...where's 115?
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Posted 18 November 2012 - 11:47 PM

View PostHurricaneJet32, on 18 November 2012 - 11:40 PM, said:

Hate to say I told you so...where's 115?


He's incognito until Hill catches a TD pass.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 03:54 AM

But i thought Jetsfan115>Jetsman05
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 04:58 AM

Hill reminds me of the wide receiver from The Replacements - all speed, but struggles to catch a cold.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 08:28 AM

Whats even more stunning, is that Shillins caught a TD Pass! :hysterical:
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 09:56 AM

View PostHarlemHxC814, on 19 November 2012 - 03:54 AM, said:

But i thought Jetsfan115>Jetsman05


Just like Hill > Gholston. Doesn't mean much.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 10:59 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 19 November 2012 - 12:19 AM, said:

What is his talent?

His talent is that hes 6'4 and runs a 4.3, not many in the NFL can do that.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:20 AM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 18 November 2012 - 08:47 PM, said:

He's incognito until Hill catches a TD pass.

Right cause SHJs one post really means anything :hysterical:

He's still a rookie and he's still raw. the ability is there. how many times was he open for a TD and mark under threw him? How many times was he open but the protection wasn't there and sanchez got sacked? He's doing as wel as expected for a rookie form a triple option offense. He's a downfield threat with a gun shy QB in a run 1st offense with no pass protection. Yes he has suffered alot of drops. So has victor cruz his 1st few years and the guy is still a beast and top 10 WR in the NFL. Hill just has to learn not to take his eyes off the ball

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=EANmOpYaCdM

Thats week 1 highlights. even on the 1st TD (about 50 seconds in the video) it should have been an eays one, hill was wide open but sanchez on an under throw made it a contested catch.)'

Also what rookie WR has done well this year? blakmon just had a huge game yesterday but up until that nothing.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 11:50 AM

View PostJetsfan115, on 19 November 2012 - 11:20 AM, said:

Right cause SHJs one post really means anything :hysterical:/>

He's still a rookie and he's still raw. the ability is there. how many times was he open for a TD and mark under threw him? How many times was he open but the protection wasn't there and sanchez got sacked? He's doing as wel as expected for a rookie form a triple option offense. He's a downfield threat with a gun shy QB in a run 1st offense with no pass protection. Yes he has suffered alot of drops. So has victor cruz his 1st few years and the guy is still a beast and top 10 WR in the NFL. Hill just has to learn not to take his eyes off the ball

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=EANmOpYaCdM

Thats week 1 highlights. even on the 1st TD (about 50 seconds in the video) it should have been an eays one, hill was wide open but sanchez on an under throw made it a contested catch.)'

Also what rookie WR has done well this year? blakmon just had a huge game yesterday but up until that nothing.


Dude... you're not seriously defending him, are you? It's one thing to say "he's a rookie and I hope he develops into a reliable pass catcher" but to completely ignore the fact that this guy has worse hand-eye coordination than Hellen Keller is just retarded.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:06 PM

Before this turns into one of SHJ's look-how-wrong-someone-else-was-on-something threads:

View PostSecondHandJets, on 31 July 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

Jets, 11 or more Ws. Still won't win the division.

Sanchez 30+ TDs.

Landry comeback player of the year.

Bart Scott will loose his starting job to Davis.

Wayne Hunter is going to give up 7 or less sacks.

Rex will win coach of the year.

Dubbs will still think that Tebow isn't as chiseled as Brady Quinn.

Greene will miss a few games with injuries.

Revis will finally win a DMVP

We will finish Top 3 in defense. If my Landry prediction holds up, we'll be #1.

Coples will have 2 sacks in September and squash those Gholston comparisons forever.

Tebow will have more rushing TDs than Shonn Greene.



View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:20 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 19 November 2012 - 08:50 AM, said:

Dude... you're not seriously defending him, are you? It's one thing to say "he's a rookie and I hope he develops into a reliable pass catcher" but to completely ignore the fact that this guy has worse hand-eye coordination than Hellen Keller is just retarded.


The guy is not a welker or kerley. Trust me I get that. But drops can be fixed. All his drops are cause he's taking his eye off the ball and looking upfield too early. He spends hours with the JUGS machine after practice to work on his hands. And yes i'm defending him. If you want to shit on a rookie 2nd round pick WR with no QB and no o-line in a run first offense, then you have bigger issues then most think. He'll get there. give him time.




View PostSecondHandJets, on 31 July 2012 - 10:02 PM, said:

Jets, 11 or more Ws. Still won't win the division.

Sanchez 30+ TDs.

Landry comeback player of the year.

Bart Scott will loose his starting job to Davis.

Wayne Hunter is going to give up 7 or less sacks.

Rex will win coach of the year.

Dubbs will still think that Tebow isn't as chiseled as Brady Quinn.

Greene will miss a few games with injuries.

Revis will finally win a DMVP

We will finish Top 3 in defense. If my Landry prediction holds up, we'll be #1.

Coples will have 2 sacks in September and squash those Gholston comparisons forever.

Tebow will have more rushing TDs than Shonn Greene.


Lol and you call other people wrong?
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:30 PM

I also pick the Jets to go 16-0 every year.

Doesn't change the fact that Hill has absolutely no pass catching ability whatsoever.
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:31 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 19 November 2012 - 11:30 AM, said:

I also pick the Jets to go 16-0 every year.

Doesn't change the fact that Hill has absolutely no pass catching ability whatsoever.


You make me miss Clemens11. (and actually you predicted them to go win 11 games in that thread and 12 in your other prediction thread)

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:34 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 19 November 2012 - 12:31 PM, said:

You make me miss Clemens11.


You taking time out of your day to fact check my posts is really flattering.

It does not change the fact that at this point, Hill is the worst WR on the worst WR depth chart in the NFL. Is his problem correctable or is he another Vlad Ducasse?
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:37 PM

SHJ was wrong? Dubb thinks Tebow is as chiseled as Quinn?
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Posted 19 November 2012 - 12:43 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 19 November 2012 - 11:34 AM, said:

You taking time out of your day to fact check my posts is really flattering.

It does not change the fact that at this point, Hill is the worst WR on the worst WR depth chart in the NFL. Is his problem correctable or is he another Vlad Ducasse?


I just factcheck you because you always act like you aren't wrong about 80% of the time. Now you're acting like you know something about those players and who gives a f*** because you always thought Sapp was going to break out and be a factor. You're the Romo of this board. Throw three picks and then afterwards move on and act like you don't deserve a benching.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 19 November 2012 - 01:16 PM

View Posta1elbow2.0, on 19 November 2012 - 09:43 AM, said:

I just factcheck you because you always act like you aren't wrong about 80% of the time. Now you're acting like you know something about those players and who gives a f*** because you always thought Sapp was going to break out and be a factor. You're the Romo of this board. Throw three picks and then afterwards move on and act like you don't deserve a benching.



Lol love the comparison.

SHJ face it your wrong. Your bithcing about what exactly? He dropped 1 pass last game and you come on and act like he's terrible for it. He's dropped about 1-2 passes a game. yes it needs to be fixed. Doens't mean he's a horible WR. for example in 2011

Donald Diver (conisdered a relaible WR) dropped 8 passes or 18%
Deshaen jackson dropped 9 (13.5%)
Marshal;l dropped 14 (15%)
Roddy white dropped 15 (13%)

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There’s a new solo leader atop the league-wide list for dropped passes and it’s an NFC South player.

According to ESPN Stats & Information, New Orleans tight end Jimmy Graham leads the NFL with eight drops.

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That puts him one drop ahead of Tampa Bay rookie running back Doug Martin, who is tied with three other players for second place. Atlanta’s Julio Jones has five drops. New Orleans’ Marques Colston and Darren Sproles and Atlanta’s Tony Gonzalez each has four drops.

Tampa Bay’s Vincent Jackson still hasn’t dropped a pass this season and is one of only seven receivers with at least 30 targets without a drop.

Led by Graham, Colston and Sproles, the Saints are tied for third in team drops with 22. The Falcons are just one drop behind New Orleans.

Tampa Bay is tied for No. 26 with just 12 drops and 10 of them come from Martin and Mike Williams. The Carolina Panthers are tied for 29th with only 10 drops.


Graham is the 2nd best TE in the NFL IMO (behind gronk)
Martin is gonna be OROTY
jones is a top WR in the NFL
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