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Jets win 3-1. Beat dolphins so bad that philbin isnt allowed back from england.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:50 PM) 4 turnovers and a Punt return TD
MikeGangGree... Icon : (05 October 2015 - 01:58 PM) If fitz can be smart with the ball and Marshall Decker and Ivory and stay healthy I think we can beat anyone
santana Icon : (05 October 2015 - 02:36 PM) http://www.sun-senti...1005-story.html
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:16 PM) I get it to a point why everyone is making a big deal about that missed call because difference between a win and a loss but I have never seen that call made in over 30 years of watching NFL so I guarantee that none of the fans , coaches or players new the rule. Yes the refs should know all the rules but they aren't computers and it's impossible for them to remember all the 1000's of rules. Especially an old rule no one but the officials ever heard of before. 22 new officials didn't help either. It took an old long time official now retired from officiating to tell the world the rule. Everyone and the officials will remember that rule from now on after all the media
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:27 PM) Lions fans are b*tching like hell about it. We would be if it happened to us but I think it's a bad rule any way and should be scrapped. If the defense causes the offensive player to fumble in the end zone because the defense makes a good play I personally think it would be bullshit to give the fumbling team the ball back. If the ball went out of bounds on its own or if a player tried to recover it and the ball went out of the end zone it's not a penalty. Both cases are a touchback so I feel that giving the ball back to the offense that fumbled it because of the defense batting the ball out of the end zone if the offense recovered the ball it would be a td so it would be bullshit to give them the ball back because of a simple ball bat. Rule should really be changed
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:30 PM) It's ok for the offense to deliberately take a safety to prevent a TD and only give up 2 points an benefit themselves so yeah I think it is an old out of date rule that should be thrown out. If the d makes a great play they shouldn't have to give the offense the ball back because of a stupid rule
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:30 PM) So I'm glad it wasn't called
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:31 PM) Hope it's changed next year
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:31 PM) it's been called a ton of times, they showed a montage o ESPN last night of a bunch of times it's been called
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:33 PM) just because one player made a great play, doesn't mean you can excuse someone making a bonehead play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:34 PM) chancellor made a great play (remember when i wanted the jets to draft him?) but the LBer should have not illegally batted it, he could have tried to recover it or body blocked det from recovering.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:34 PM) Not sure what ESPN you had on ESPN China? I left ESPN on for 2 hours after the game and I never seen this montage you say. I'm calling you out as bullshit. Show me a video of proof
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:38 PM) Even the old ESPN official couldn't remember an instance of it being called. It isn't the same as the offense backing out of the end zone with the ball or being sacked in the end zone for a safety. Completely different rule and situation. I've never seen it called and I watch at least 6 games at a time a week. None of the ESPN announcer players, Ray Lewis, Dilfer, or Young even knew the rule and that's over 20 years of NFL experience. Yet none of them knew or understood the rule until it was explained in detail
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:40 PM) I've never once seen the ball given back to to offense so I challenge you to show me this montage you claim was on. If I didn't see it for two hours I after the game I'm calling bullshit on your end
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:43 PM) Say whatever you want but show me proof or just leave it be because I won't believe you without a bunch of video proof. I have a hell of a memory and if it ever was called maybe once or twice in the past 30 years but no way there is some montage
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:48 PM) Nether coach knew the rule either and they would know more of the rules than the players and fans. If not for a retired official bringing it up it probably would've never even been brought up at all
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 03:58 PM) I highly questionable is on now and they are even saying no one knew the rule or complained until they were told the rule.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 04:05 PM) I have seen plenty of games where defenders did knock the ball out of the end zone like the situation last night to prevent any possible touchdown not disputing that because that has happened a good many times. My point is I've never seen a flag thrown for it and the ball given to the offense. It's definitely an obsolete rule that should be thrown out. The NFL has made the rules so offensive friendly these days it's hard to play defense with out calls anymore. That is just one more bullshit rule to help the offense. Take the Jets Dolphins game for instance. Those bullshit pi calls against our defense for clearly uncatchable balls. Pi never should've never been called giving up like 60 yards on two calls and a td that never would've happened. At most they should've been 5 yard holding calls. Never would've been mad if they just called them holding calls.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 04:06 PM) Anyway I'm tired of all these offense friendly rules these days screwing over the defenses. It's starting to get like non touch flag football for the defenses.
ROBJETS Icon : (06 October 2015 - 04:11 PM) You know it too. Our team has been a defensive team for well over a decade and so many bullshit calls have been called against our defense because of the new offensive friendly rules. So I say screw Detroit. I'm glad it wasn't called and a defense gets a break
Jetsfan115 Icon : (06 October 2015 - 06:37 PM) call em a liar if you want, but I seen it man
santana Icon : (07 October 2015 - 12:52 AM) guess I should enable a character limit for the shoutbox
santana Icon : (07 October 2015 - 12:53 AM) getting a bit out of hand
Jetsman05 Icon : (07 October 2015 - 06:30 AM) Rob you're brutal
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:30 PM) Who should I start this week in fantasy football? Its a PPR league. I can start 3 of the WRs Edelman-/D-Thomas/Mike Evans/James Jones
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:30 PM) Edelman and Thomas are must start
MikeGangGree... Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:31 PM) So do I start Evans against Jax or James Jones vs STL
Jetsfan115 Icon : (07 October 2015 - 01:45 PM) jones. winston likes jackson more then evans
RetireChrebet Icon : (Yesterday, 01:47 PM) My two year old daughter is less manic and is able to maintain her composure much better than someone we know here ....
azjetfan Icon : (Yesterday, 03:07 PM) Dolphins have also fired their DC
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:24 PM) I am composed. 115 and I may see things differently but he has never pissed me off. He is just trying to make his point of view and I mine nothing more
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:25 PM) I just feel the rule is a very bad rule to give the offense the ball back for losing the ball in the endzone because of a batted ball and feel the NFL is far to offense firendly these days thats all
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:27 PM) I know many agree with that. I get that many changes have been made to limit things like brain damage and other injuries some season ending and career ending but defenses cant play hard like they used to and pathetic calls on defenses have ruinbed many games.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:29 PM) Thats why brought up the Jets Fish game. The balls were clearly uncatcahable and a light tug on the jersey shouldn't be a pi. Whatever happened to the uncatchable ball rule?"
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:33 PM) and as far as that montage I did have ESPN on for 2 hours after the game because I wanted to see all the reactions and get a clear understanding of this old rule and I never saw a bunch of clips where flags were thrown for the play in question. So I asked for proof. If it was on ESPN it wasn't on ESPN1 maybe ESPN 2 ,3 or news. Its not wrong or brutal to ask for proof when he stated he saw it on ESPN I had the channel on and didn't see what he claimed he saw and still haven't seen any video of proof of his claims
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 03:36 PM) But as I said not mad at all. 115 and I are cool and always have been Ive never been mad at him in anyway. This is a fan forum and we dispute. If we all agreed on everything there would be no point of the forum. Disputes on stats and calls make things interesting, and makes each of use see things from different points of view
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) it was on whatever channel the game itself came on
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:56 PM) and for the record I don't have any issue with anything rob said. I just disagree with it
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) I do think rules are too offense friendly, but I think in this case, when someone blatently breaks a rule ti should be punished
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) but then again pacman got away with ripping off a players helmet and didn't get a penatly
Jetsfan115 Icon : (Yesterday, 03:57 PM) refs need to be more consistent
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:04 PM) Hell yeah! Pac 12 AZ State Jaelen Strong. Not a Texans fan but and dont watch a ton of college football but do watch the Pac 12 for football and basketball growing up in Phoenix and also a Suns fan and liking the Cardinals since they moved to AZ .Was a Jets fan though before Az got the cardinals . Strong was really good for AZ State.
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:05 PM) Havent studied up on strong for the Texans but will have to since the announcers said he hasnt played much. I want to know if he has been injured or not performing. He has good hands and size
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:08 PM) I actually was debating on starting the Colts witth Jets D on bye week glad I dropped them. Wasn't much to choose from. Some decent defenses but bad matchups. took a chance on the Jags this week hoping they can shut down Tampa
ROBJETS Icon : (Yesterday, 09:10 PM) Oh and thanks for that 115. people took it wrong. we were simply debating our opinions with passion for our love of football with no animosity and people took it wrong. Easy to misunderstand texts
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Posted 25 November 2012 - 03:50 PM

http://www.nydailyne...cle-1.1207491So, it I were Woody Johnson I would implement this five-point plan:


1. Not Fire Rex Ryan
Johnson can take the easy way out and fire Ryan and start over with his fifth coach since he bought the Jets, but blowing up the franchise's infrastructure by getting rid of Ryan would be a panic move.

What the Jets need in the head coach's office right now is continuity, not another startup project.

It's been an ugly 12 months for Ryan, that's for sure, with the Jets losing their last three games in 2011 to finish 8-8 and not make the playoffs, and going 4-7 this year, meaning they have won only four of their last 14 games. The only positive for the Jets: their last five games are against the Cardinals, Jaguars, Titans, Chargers and Bills, who are a combined 17-33. As bad as those teams are, all but the Jaguars have better records than the Jets.

This is Ryan's first disaster season in his four years with the Jets. If he had not made the AFC Championship Game his first two years and had the Jets in contention last year, then Johnson would be justified firing Ryan after what looks like an irrelevant December with lots of empty seats coming up. In fact, he would have been justified getting rid of him after the 49-19 beatdown put on them by the Patriots on Thanksgiving Night in front of a national television audience with the season on the line. Johnson had to be humiliated.

The Giants came close to firing Tom Coughlin after his third season in 2006, and he only kept his job when he promised to treat players with compassion and not as nameless and faceless numbers. He was also forced to outline a plan how he was going to get Eli Manning straightened out. The decision by the Maras and Tisches to keep Coughlin worked out well. He has won two Super Bowls in the last five seasons. Back in the Cowboys' early years when fans were demanding Tom Landry be fired, owner Clint Murchison gave him a 10-year contract extension.

Of course, I'm not suggesting Johnson give Ryan an extension. He did that after his first season in 2009. He just needs to give him the 2013 season before making a decision to fire or extend him. Coaches rarely go into the last year of their contracts. Ryan's contract runs through 2014 and he makes about $3 million a year. There's no way Johnson is going to write Ryan checks for $6 million for not coaching his team when the Jets restructured guard Matt Slauson's contract in the summer just to save $258,000.

Ryan's locker room has not revolted against him as Coughlin's did in 2006. The players love playing for him. The problem is the quality of the personnel has deteriorated since Ryan arrived and he certainly shares in the blame. But he deserves the chance to come back next year.

2. Hire A Personnel Expert With Final Say
Johnson is comfortable with GM Mike Tannenbaum running the football operations. Tannenbaum is a smart guy: He went to law school and has a complete understanding of the salary cap. His strength is negotiating contracts and being extremely organized. He has surrounded himself with a personnel staff that he trusts, but too many decisions have not worked out. The Jets need to hire a personnel whiz who can do for Tannenbaum what Jerry Reese did for Ernie Accorsi with the Giants before Reese was promoted to GM. Tannenbaum needs to relinquish final say on personnel — that's often semantics because most decisions are made by consensus — while retaining his other responsibilities. But something must change: The Jets selected Stephen Hill in the second round this year and he can't catch. That's not a good thing for a wide receiver.

3. Find Real Competition For Mark Sanchez
Once the coaches saw Tim Tebow in practice, and he's well known as being an awful practice player, Sanchez's job was never in jeopardy. The Jets need to create an open competition in training camp next summer by signing a veteran free agent, making a trade or drafting a quarterback. The only starting quality QB who will be a free agent is Joe Flacco and the Ravens will surely franchise him if they can't work out a deal. Philly's Michael Vick is somebody to at least think about a bit. He's due to make $16 million in 2013 and it's hard to imagine Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie paying that kind of money. And with Andy Reid surely getting fired, Lurie may elect to start over at quarterback, too. Even when he's healthy, Vick has not played well this season. The Jets may be able to get him at severely reduced dollars, but he may not be worth creating another distraction at quarterback.

Sanchez is virtually guaranteed to be with the Jets in 2013. When they extended his contract as a kiss-and-make up move after they courted and were rejected by Peyton Manning, his new deal gets him $8.25 million guaranteed next season. Unless the Jets are willing to eat all of the money and cut Sanchez, or swallow a good chunk of it in a trade, then he will be back. Sanchez has been sabotaged by the worst group of skill position players in the league and that was true even before Santonio Holmes was lost for the season in the fourth game.

4. Dump Tony Sparano
He's a bad fit as the offensive coordinator and a big mistake by Ryan. Woody should have hired Todd Haley, who came in for an interview. Haley was hired by the Steelers, instead. Sparano's background is as an offensive line coach. When the Dolphins ran the Wildcat in 2008 in the first of Sparano's four years as head coach, it was not his offense. It was devised by QB coach David Lee. Sparano's play-calling is archaic. He is a ground-and-pound coach in a passing league. Three offensive coordinators in three years will not be good for Sanchez, but he has regressed in Sparano's system.

5. Say Goodbye To Terrible Tim
The Jets have to trade or cut Tim Tebow after the season. It's the right thing to do for the team and for him. Johnson said the decision to trade for Tebow belonged to Ryan and Tannenbaum and was not his way of selling more PSLs or hot dogs. But if the coaches wanted him, why aren't they playing him? Just being who he is and not because of anything he has said or done, Tebow has been a huge distraction. The reward has not come close to justifying the risk. The Jets surely know that by now.

Even with all the tumult during the Ryan era, the Jets have 36 victories, including the playoffs. The Giants have 37. They've each won four playoff games. The difference, of course, is the Giants added another ring to their collection while the Jets keep adding more sideshows to the circus.

One of the reasons Jerricho Cotchery forced his release from the Jets in training camp last year was because of Plaxico Burress. He was tired of the Jets first bringing in Braylon Edwards, then Holmes and finally Burress ahead of him. So, it's ironic that Cotchery's broken ribs suffered in the Steelers loss to the Ravens last week led to Pittsburgh signing Burress, their first-round pick in 2000 who had visited Pittsburgh after the lockout ended in the summer of 2011 before signing with the Jets. Burress has not played this season and his only visit was to New England during training camp. The Steelers signed him just for the remainder of the season for the prorated share of the $925,000 veteran minimum, so he's going to be extremely motivated to show that he's got something left so he will get a contract in Pittsburgh or elsewhere for 2013. "It's good to be back," Burress said…If the Steelers don't get Ben Roethlisberger back soon, they are not going to make the playoffs. Third-string QB Charlie Batch starts Sunday against the Browns with No. 2 Byron Leftwich out with a rib injury. Batch has thrown 208 passes in 11 years with the Steelers after coming over from the Lions
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