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azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:52 AM) He is a good QB and I would love to have him. However IMO our 6 is not good value for us. Not to mention if he hates the idea of LA what is he going to think of NY? Contract situation would have to be worked out prior to trade as well. Extreme long shot to land Rivers. My money says we are more likely to land Brees.
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 09:53 AM) which is still a very long shot
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:46 AM) he may just hate ownership. LT's comments yesterday was interesting.
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) “I personally don’t think so,” Tomlinson said. “I really think this is a situation where Philip Rivers wants to move on. The reason why I think that and the reason why I feel like that is the Chargers have already approached Philip about doing another contract and he declined it. He doesn’t want anything to do with it; he didn’t even want to talk about another contract with the San Diego Chargers. That tells me that he’s thinking about moving on.”

“You never want to trade your franchise quarterback,” Tomlinson said, “that’s never the case. However, in this situation they might have no choice but to do so because I don’t know if Philip [Rivers] wants to be there anymore. I think he’s lost confidence in the organization. He’s seeing a lot of changes going on and the L.A. thing is valid; him not wanting to go to L.A., that is very valid, I can see that. So no, it doesn’t make sense to move on from Philip because he’s a franchise quarterback and he still has three to four very good years left.”
Chaos Icon : (21 April 2015 - 10:47 AM) missed the LA line. nvm. guess that is a legit concern.
Mr_Jet Icon : (21 April 2015 - 03:57 PM) He doesn't want to play for a franchise based in Los Angeles, but he'd be okay with playing for one based in New York City?
azjetfan Icon : (21 April 2015 - 04:28 PM) That's the point we have all been making.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:05 PM) Jets vs colts Monday night week2
MikeGangGree... Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:09 PM) Jets open at home against the browns
ganggreen2003 Icon : (21 April 2015 - 07:52 PM) Week 5 Bye after the London Game against the Dolphags
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) Rivers is likely going to Tennessee. Would LOVE to have him here but we likely won't make the trade. I'd easily give this year and next year
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 09:17 AM) 's first rounder for him
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 11:03 AM) IMO that's a steep price. I would swap this years first and a conditional 1st next year. Assuming we make the AFC Championship. That would be a 28-32nd pick. Otherwise a second.
MikeGangGree... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:07 PM) Yes 2 1st is a lot
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 01:10 PM) draft is next week, pumped
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:02 PM) What are thoughts on getting a RB in round 1? McShay's newest mock has us taking Gurley at 6. I don't think we should take him that high, but if we trade down and he's available I'd love to snag him, ACL and all. He's got an unreal skill set that, once healthy, will translate readily to the NFL. We're not getting a QB this year without paying a king's ransom, and unless we pay a ransom for a top guy I say ignore QB. I don't want us to take a Hundley or Petty type in the 2nd or 3rd round when we need other pieces (edge rush, OL)
azjetfan Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:09 PM) We can probably get Gordon in the second. I would pass at 6. If QB is not available a pass rusher will be. Our biggest needs are QB Pass rusher and Oline.
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 03:34 PM) any thourghts on shane ray? i see a lot of mocks have us drafting him
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:35 PM) last one i seen had us taking cooper, a RB, and hundley for our 1st 3 picks. not thrilled about that
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:38 PM) I don't like Gordon much. Not much of a receiver or blocker, ball security issues, tries to bounce outside too much, stuffed frequently. Gurley is in a league of his own
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:39 PM) Ray is pretty highly regarded. I'm betting he, Dupree, and Gregory will be our best options as well as edge rushers at 6, but I think that's too high for any of them
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 04:43 PM) Personally love Cooper, I know WR isn't our biggest need but he may be the most NFL ready guy in the Draft. If we stick to the 6th pick and Fowler, Beasley, and Mariota are gone, Cooper is the guy to get. I'd even take him over Beasley
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) i don't mind cooper. decker isn't number 1 IMO and marshall is expensive and getting old
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) and we never draft a WR high
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:45 PM) but o-line and QB are huge needs. i wouldn't take o-line 6th overall, but i think our 2nd or 3rd should be o-line
Jetsfan115 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 05:46 PM) we need an OLB as well. if we don't land a QB i'd like to see OLB adn O-line with 2 of our top 3 picks
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:16 PM) I agree on Deck, not a true #1 and he's had a checkered history with injuries. Marshall has 2, maybe 3 productive years left, which is why Cooper is an option
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:17 PM) And I agree with you on edge rusher & OL being bigger needs, but there really isn't a lineman I'd take at 6
Chadforpresi... Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:19 PM) So the way I see it, assuming Winston and Mariota are taken when we're at 6, that Fowler and Cooper are our best choices, and I'd be stunned if Fowler drops. I wouldn't be surprised (or upset) if we land Cooper
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 08:47 PM) Apparently Tennessee wanted both of Cleveland's #1's and their 2nd rounder to move up to the #2 spot to get Mariota. Still think two 1st rounders are too much for Rivers? He makes us instant contenders and if we make a deep playoff run, it would really be this year's 1st and what equates to basically a 2nd rounder next year.
If not, get Cooper in the 1st and then grab Hundley in the 2nd and O-line in the 3rd.
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:05 PM) I wouldn't be upset with Cooper, hes a stud
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:06 PM) Not sure about Ray. Dupree is rising on the draft boards, ridiculously athletic for his size
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:07 PM) Dupree is 6'4 270 and has a amazing get off and runs a 4.5
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Problem is he doesn't have big sack numbers in college, I rather draft a productive guy high
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:09 PM) Vic Beasley is insanely athletic as well and was hugely productive in college, good bet is that Beasley will be a 10+ sack guy in the NFL
NJAzrael71 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:12 PM) Beasley should be a stud but he gets caught up hand fighting if he doesn't beat his guy quickly. He'll likely end up as an OLB but we'll see
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (22 April 2015 - 10:15 PM) He'd be a good fit in our defense, because we could use that speed guy on the outside
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:27 AM) I'd love Rivers, but we should be able to get him without paying 2 first rounders
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:29 AM) Lot of buzz about Dupree going top 10, most mocks I see have us getting either Ray or Dupree at 6. I prefer Dupree, like you said insane athlete for his size
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 06:30 AM) I like Beasley as well but I have a strong feeling Washington will snag him. But he is a small dude, it'd be nice if he'd add some bulk (in Clemson reportedly played around 230)
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:11 AM) @ArifHasanNFL

.@LanceZierlein says on http://sports790.com that Shane Ray will need surgery on foot, 5 months recovery. "Could drop out of first"
Chaos Icon : (23 April 2015 - 10:14 AM) this should change up the top 10
Chadforpresi... Icon : (23 April 2015 - 12:16 PM) Damn that's big. If he drops out of round 1 that could be a massive bargain for whoever gets him round 2. Dupree now looks more like the edge rusher we'd get at 6
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Posted 26 November 2012 - 10:03 PM

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Ryan: Jets' goal is to run the table



FLORHAM PARK, N.J. (AP)


Rex Ryan is making no guarantees.

No wild predictions or brash declarations these days. But the Jets coach still believes his team has a shot at the playoffs.

That's despite the fact New York is 4-7, coming off an embarrassing loss to New England, and hasn't won two straight games all season.

Hardly the résumé of a team with its sights set on playing past Week 17.

Ryan has hope, though, and it comes from the fact the Jets have five games left, all against opponents with records below .500. So, the message, even if it appears unrealistic to most, from Ryan to his players is simple: Run the table and see what happens.

''Heck yeah,'' Ryan said Monday. ''That's your goal. Absolutely, that's what you're trying to do. Our goal was to beat New England also, but that never worked out.''

That's for sure. The Patriots thrashed the Jets 49-19 on Thanksgiving night on national television, scoring 35 points in the second quarter, including three touchdowns in a 52-second span.

''Everyone was shaking their heads thinking, 'How did that happen?''' cornerback Antonio Cromartie said.

Ryan called it ''a nightmare,'' a dismal performance that some could consider the lowest point of his nearly four-year tenure as Jets coach.

The lasting image from the game — Mark Sanchez fumbling the ball after running into right guard Brandon Moore's backside — was still a big topic of conversation on sports radio and blogs four days later.

''It's time to move on,'' linebacker Bryan Thomas said. ''We know the mistakes we had in the game. ... We know we stunk it up. That's pretty much what we did. We know we did, but what can we do about it? There's nothing we can do about it. Hats off to the Patriots. They played a fantastic game, and now we move on to Arizona.''

The slumping Cardinals have lost seven in a row after opening the season 4-0. Then, the Jets are at Jacksonville (2-9), at Tennessee (4-7), home for San Diego (4-7) and at Buffalo (4-7).

Winnable? Maybe. But all five opponents probably feel the same about their games against the Jets.

''I'm saying right now that I'm not going to make a guarantee that we're going to make the playoffs or that deal,'' Ryan said. ''We have to get better. It has to start right now.''

Even if the Jets win all five, they might still miss out on the postseason for the second straight year. Big changes could come after that, with Ryan and general manager Mike Tannenbaum on the hot seat, and several key players, including Moore, Dustin Keller, Shonn Greene, LaRon Landry and Yeremiah Bell, in line to become free agents.

Many Jets players insist they aren't thinking about any of that, but rather they're focused on Arizona.

''We're playing for pride,'' running back Joe McKnight said. ''And we still have a chance to make the playoffs.''

Added Thomas: ''You can't look ahead. What are we going to look ahead for? We're not playing those guys. We're playing Arizona. We're playing the Cardinals. That's what we're looking forward to doing.''

While the Jets have their own quarterback woes with Sanchez struggling and backup Tim Tebow dealing with two broken ribs, the Cardinals are down to third-stringer Ryan Lindley. Arizona coach Ken Whisenhunt said his team is sticking with the rookie, who threw three interceptions, including two returned for touchdowns, in his first NFL start Sunday, until Kevin Kolb is back from injured ribs.

Whomever the quarterback, the Jets need big-time improvements in a hurry.

''It's not that we need to get better, we need to eliminate the mistakes,'' Cromartie said. ''We need to eliminate the turnovers, the penalties.''

Cromartie said after the loss to the Patriots that he had no idea why the team has been so error-prone this season, and still had no answers Monday. The game against New England included five turnovers by the offense and special teams, while the defense allowed a season-high 475 yards as the Patriots went 11 for 15 on third-down conversions.

''Some of the better defenses, they play well consistently, and I think that's not what we've been doing,'' Cromartie said. ''We haven't been playing well consistently. We've been up and down and that's something you can't have as a defense, especially when your offense is struggling at times. We've got to be the backbone of this team.''

While in-fighting in the locker room helped derail the Jets' season a year ago, there appears to be none of that this year. At least none that is evident, as there was then as Sanchez and the offensive line clashed with wide receiver Santonio Holmes.

''A team stays together no matter what,'' Cromartie said. ''That's a team. The way you get through it is by everybody sticking together and standing together, and believing in each other.''

But, does this team think it has a chance to roll through the next five weeks and make the playoffs?

''I don't even know what I believe right now, the way we've been playing,'' Cromartie said. ''There's five games left, and anything can happen.''

Landry also danced around the same question.

''We can fight,'' Landry said with a grin, ''and win ballgames.''



NOTES: Ryan said he was ''disappointed'' at hearing that Ed Anzalone - who led the ''J-E-T-S'' chants at home games for years - announced in a guest column in Metro New York that he is no longer going to games as Fireman Ed because of increasing ''confrontations'' with fans, many of whom take exception to him wearing Sanchez's No. 6 jersey. ''I love that guy's passion and energy that he would bring and, really, he's a great fan,'' Ryan said. ''I really admire him. ... I like Fireman Ed. If he could play linebacker, I'd use him.'' ... Moore took exception to NBC analyst Cris Collinsworth's description of the play in which Sanchez ran into him. Collinsworth said New England's Vince Wilfork threw Moore into Sanchez, and compared it to how Reggie White used to ''forklift'' offensive linemen. Replays showed that Moore fell when Sanchez ran into his backside. ''The Collinsworth guy, never really been a big fan of his,'' Moore said.


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Posted 27 November 2012 - 03:59 AM

This is actually fairly tame for Rex.

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''Heck yeah,'' Ryan said Monday. ''That's your goal. Absolutely, that's what you're trying to do. Our goal was to beat New England also, but that never worked out.''


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''I'm saying right now that I'm not going to make a guarantee that we're going to make the playoffs or that deal,'' Ryan said. ''We have to get better. It has to start right now.''


Please really read his quote. He doesn't say we are going to run the table, make the playoffs, and win the Super Bowl like he has in the past. He says what anybody in that organization should be thinking. Their goal is to win. That is what they are paid for, contrary to the on field performances.

There is plenty of Rex and the Jets to be critical of, but it isn't from this piece. Bashing what is said here is being negative for the sake of being negative.


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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:38 AM

You play, to win, the game!
"My first thought was I looked and I saw who was second and [thought], 'Hey, I finally beat Belichick at something. I got him. I knew it would take time, but I finally got him.'"
--Rex Ryan on being voted the most overrated NFL head coach
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 01:43 PM

This next five game stretch will be pretty interesting since we face nothing but "bad" teams. People are still sticking up a lot for Ryan and saying it is the lack of talent, but these are teams that are as poorly equipped to play as anyone. If the Jets win four or five games Ryan will probably save his job, if the team only wins one or two I think it is reasonable to expect him to be fired.

View PostClemens11, on 12 August 2012 - 01:21 PM, said:

1 int for every 4 tis is a pretty nice ratio to me


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Posted 27 November 2012 - 05:26 PM

View PostMoMilk1991, on 27 November 2012 - 03:59 AM, said:

This is actually fairly tame for Rex.



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Please really read his quote. He doesn't say we are going to run the table, make the playoffs, and win the Super Bowl like he has in the past. He says what anybody in that organization should be thinking. Their goal is to win. That is what they are paid for, contrary to the on field performances.

There is plenty of Rex and the Jets to be critical of, but it isn't from this piece. Bashing what is said here is being negative for the sake of being negative.



I feel like changing the title to "Rex recruiting fireman Ed to start at linebacker"
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Posted 27 November 2012 - 09:22 PM

View Postsantana, on 27 November 2012 - 05:26 PM, said:

I feel like changing the title to "Rex recruiting fireman Ed to start at linebacker"


Has more reality than the current title.
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