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MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) good
MikeGangGree... Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:09 AM) Best day of the week is the day after a Jets Win!
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:12 AM) Rob you think the offense started off ugly? we scored on our first 4 drives, and controlled the ball 80% of the time the first half. We didn't even punt until the 2nd half
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:21 AM) I meant the hits on Fitz at on the first Drive or two with the fumbles and almost fumbles....The Tom Brady rule where balls that used to be fumbles are incomplete. We recovered the ball on all but one but it was ruled incomplete
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:26 AM) The offensive line stepped off after Hughes got hurt for however long he was out. I don't blame J. Marsh for that fumble because that was just a hell of a play. Imo Fitz had a career best game even with only 1 td passing. Never seen him so accurate. So yeah when I meant ugly I meant dline penetration and the 1st two drives ending up in fieldgoals
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:30 AM) But 31 points given up passing by the defense passing was bad. It wasn't just 2 long bombs and that defensive touchdown leading to 21 points. 3q1 against a bad team was terrible for the defense. Without the offense putting up 37 the Jets,would have lost so yeah I consider it an ugly start on both ends
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:32 AM) I'm glad like everyone else that the Jets won. Especially with getting with by the Bills multiple times it was nice revenge.
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 10:34 AM) Just saying that the Bills look like a bad team this year and the Jets have to face a lot of teams that are probably playoff bound again so yes there is a lot of concern
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:39 AM) fitz look good and lets not forget the 50+ yarder to decker that was called back on a BS holding penalty. plus if you rewatch it, the jets d-line was getting held like crazy and never got calls. I seen McLendon, williams, and wilk all complaining about it
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:32 PM) I think the game plan for the D was to keep Taylor in the pocker
azjetfan Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:33 PM) They didn't want him running around when they only rushed 3-4 guts
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:37 PM) bills fired their OC today after the loss yesterday lol
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) yeah we didn't really rush, we just tried to keep contain on the outside and collapse the middle
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:38 PM) on the salas TD, one of our LBers went for the sack and broke contain and pryor got away and made the play
Jetsfan115 Icon : (16 September 2016 - 12:39 PM) when we did rush which was rare, we had a spy
ROBJETS Icon : (16 September 2016 - 11:11 PM) As far as the Bills firing the oc I'm not sure I agree with it with Watkins having major foot problem with a steel rod in his surgically repaired foot but I dont follow the Bills so cant really say. I do think they need to get rid of Rob Ryan though. He had a decent year with the Browns then was terrible with the Cowboys and Saints. He isn't half the DC that Rex is. I still think Rex can be a good head coach withe the right coaches and roster but Rob Ryan isn't the answer. But if Rex wants to ruin his chance of staying a head coach by keeping his brother on the coaching staff like he ruined his head coaching job keeping Sanchez as a starter then that's his stupidity
ganggreen2003 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 12:20 AM) The A Football Life of Curtis Martin is a MUST WATCH!!!!
Jetsfan0099 Icon : (17 September 2016 - 02:03 PM) They got rid of their OC after their defense was ripped apart
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:03 PM) Well hell that makes even less sense. The defense gets ripped apart so let's get rid of the oc instead of the dc.they didn't have much of a run game but a lot of passes yards. If they wanted to blame anyone for nearly 40 points against them it was their defense. But guess Rex used the ocean as the scale goat instead of his brother
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) Oc not ocean. Damn Auto correct on phone
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:04 PM) And scape goatee
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:05 PM) Lol still can't get it right
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:13 PM) Not sure about anyone else but I'm extremely interested in the 49r/ Panther game at 1pm. Just want to see if the 49rs are actually good this year or if the Rams have become one of the worst teams in the league this year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:16 PM) If the Rams have regressed that much then all the Todd Gurley owners in fantasy will likely have low points from him all year. Might even be worth trying to trade him early if they look just as bad this week before his stock drops
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:26 PM) I drafted him last year and also had David Johnson, Chris Johnson, Roetlesburger, Romo, Palmer, Barnage,, .....my whole team was stacked with starters. Entire team wasc stacked with starters. Even bench. Made tge Superbowl but did have a rough start at behinning of season when Romo and Roethlisberger wentvdown at the start of season also lost amazing starting rb and wr all within the 1st 4 games but worked the waivers really well..shut out until garbage time by a team that was terrible last year
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:28 PM) Last part meant Rams were shut out entire game even in garbage time against 49r backups
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 05:29 PM) Sorry about typos. Hard to type on small phone screen
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:00 PM) This is why I'm glad Rex is gone. Fire the OC after the D gives up 500 yards??
MikeGangGree... Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:01 PM) UPDATE THE UPDATE!!!!
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:25 PM) Yep Rex isn't a bad coach but he needs to have all player and coach decisions as far as firing and hiring taken out of his hands. His problem is he doesn't know to separate the job from loyalty to players and is unable to let underperforming players go
ROBJETS Icon : (17 September 2016 - 06:27 PM) He was great as a DC because he wasn't in charge of roster and firing decisions. He will never make it as a good head coach until he can get rid of loyalty and run a team like any boss runs a business.
azjetfan Icon : (17 September 2016 - 07:16 PM) I loved Rex as a person. But he is severely handicapped in his skill set as a HC. He has not adapted and will not adapt. That's why he isn't here and will be fired from Buffalo.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:05 AM) It's all guessing and I will like likely stick with my two starters that are injured and playing but D.Thomas looks like he is still in a lot of pain and Stewart is still in the locker room getting ankle treatment so both could be on a snap count
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:06 AM) I have good wr's on bench and good rb's on bench but they have bad matchups. Do t trust Diggs against Greenbay or Doug Martin against Arizona both on bench
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:08 AM) If I made changes I have Crabtree for Oakland Aagainst Atlanta and Abdullah for Detroit against 49rs as my two options I would choose if I made any changes
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:10 AM) Actually have it backwards with my running back teams
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:12 AM) Detroit vs Titans who I believe has a legit defense. Panthers have a better team but the ankle for Stewart and both the Titans and 49rs are ranked #1 against the run. Not a believer in the 49rs defensesthough
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:13 AM) Believe the Rams oline just sucks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:15 AM) Abdullah splits carries but he did get 17 last week and also catches a lot of passes and has a better qb so could exploit the Titans still
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:16 AM) Will most likely do my own thing anyway just looking for input from those that actually study in fantasy if anyone feels like offering their opinions. If not it's cool too. Thanks
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 11:18 AM) If not for the injuries to the two players I'd keep them in for sure but all it takes for Thomas is a hit to the hip and a tackle by the ankle for Stewart if they aren't on a snap count already or if pain doesn't get to them.
ROBJETS Icon : (18 September 2016 - 12:45 PM) Well looks like leaving in Stewart was,a,bad move in locker room
MikeGangGree... Icon : (18 September 2016 - 04:54 PM) Good news! Dolphins suck
santana Icon : (19 September 2016 - 08:08 AM) Thanks professor
Jetsfan115 Icon : (23 September 2016 - 03:55 PM) updated roster. FB howsare released, TE bowman added to roster
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 12:17 PM

Walterfootball.com (updated yesterday)

Rd 1: Barkevious Mingo OLB/DE, LSU
Rd 2: D.J. Fluker OT, Alabama
Rd 3: Tyler Bray QB, Tennessee

Shawn Zobel (updated yesterday):

Rd 1: Damontre Moore OLB, Texas A & M

NFL Draft Countdown (as of Oct 27):

Rd 1: Damontre Moore OLB, Texas A & M

Rob Rang (Cbssports.com-- updated 11/28)

Rd 1: Barkevious Mingo OLB/DE, LSU

Dane Brugler (Cbssports.com-- updated 11/27):


Rd 1: Jarvis Jones OLB, Georgia
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 02:23 PM

Jarvis Jones looks like a Top 5 pick. Our schedule is pretty weak so we'll be somewhere in the 9-12 range. Where do most mocks have Landry Jones? If he's available in the top of the 3rd round, I can see us getting him.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 03:10 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 29 November 2012 - 02:23 PM, said:

Jarvis Jones looks like a Top 5 pick. Our schedule is pretty weak so we'll be somewhere in the 9-12 range. Where do most mocks have Landry Jones? If he's available in the top of the 3rd round, I can see us getting him.

Next years draft is one of the few drafts I have almost no faith in. Ive never thought that before at least as far as my memory goes. I doubt the draft is going to help us much if at all. The fo is to stubborn to start over.

Most all of us believe (even though we hope otherwise) that there will be more of the same next year. I doubt a couple players in the draft will make much of a difference. Most of us(unlike Rex) dont believe we are close and we need major changes on the roster and management too. Not to mention Westhoff is planning to retire.We have multiple issues on offense and defense and the chances of all of them being corrected in one year is almost zero.

A few things though.... my believe is that we need at least two major changes. If Rex cant get away from his LOYALTY issues. He needs to go. I like the guy but he is a head coach in the NFL. His mouth a side he cant be buddies with his players at all. The only exception might be is if the team was competing on a Superbowl level each year.

Next we need better scouts and Tanny needs to step down as far as bringing in personnel obviously he isn't cut out for that job.

Next...this team isn't going anywhere with Mark for sure. I said this in his second season and I'm still saying it only now I'm not in the minority in seeing it. He hasn't shown any progress and he isn't suited to be a starter in this league. A backup at best.We wont get anything in trade for Mark. No other team would bring him in as a starter. If anyone traded for him it would be as a backup. I think the org is to money hungry to eat the money and at least try a different path whether it be benching him,trading him,or releasing him.

All this is just echoing what most of us believe. I dont have much faith in having a good season next year. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 03:27 PM

View PostROBJETS, on 29 November 2012 - 03:10 PM, said:

Next years draft is one of the few drafts I have almost no faith in. Ive never thought that before at least as far as my memory goes. I doubt the draft is going to help us much if at all. The fo is to stubborn to start over.

Most all of us believe (even though we hope otherwise) that there will be more of the same next year. I doubt a couple players in the draft will make much of a difference. Most of us(unlike Rex) dont believe we are close and we need major changes on the roster and management too. Not to mention Westhoff is planning to retire.We have multiple issues on offense and defense and the chances of all of them being corrected in one year is almost zero.

A few things though.... my believe is that we need at least two major changes. If Rex cant get away from his LOYALTY issues. He needs to go. I like the guy but he is a head coach in the NFL. His mouth a side he cant be buddies with his players at all. The only exception might be is if the team was competing on a Superbowl level each year.

Next we need better scouts and Tanny needs to step down as far as bringing in personnel obviously he isn't cut out for that job.

Next...this team isn't going anywhere with Mark for sure. I said this in his second season and I'm still saying it only now I'm not in the minority in seeing it. He hasn't shown any progress and he isn't suited to be a starter in this league. A backup at best.We wont get anything in trade for Mark. No other team would bring him in as a starter. If anyone traded for him it would be as a backup. I think the org is to money hungry to eat the money and at least try a different path whether it be benching him,trading him,or releasing him.

All this is just echoing what most of us believe. I dont have much faith in having a good season next year. Hopefully I'm wrong.


I don't believe a single word that comes out of Rex's mouth and his loyalty is just that. I think he's sticking with what he has because he knows that the cupboard is bare. Any one who see Tebow throw know how atrocious he looks and the fact that Sanchez is guaranteed money for next season removes any incentive whatsoever from going to a QB change. If we had a decent backup, we'd probably do it but a shitty FB behind your incumbent who'll be on the team in 2013 regardless removes any reason for a QB switch. For all his loyalty, Rex never said a peep about pushing vets out of the door. Woody, Leonhard, J-Co, Richardson (who retired but said he'd come back if the Jets called), TJ, Jenkins etc etc. None of those guys got any special treatment from Rex... his loyalty is up there with his faith in Gholston.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 05:25 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 29 November 2012 - 03:23 PM, said:

Jarvis Jones looks like a Top 5 pick. Our schedule is pretty weak so we'll be somewhere in the 9-12 range. Where do most mocks have Landry Jones? If he's available in the top of the 3rd round, I can see us getting him.


Holy f*** Landry Jones is god awful
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 06:51 PM

View PostSecondHandJets, on 29 November 2012 - 03:27 PM, said:

I don't believe a single word that comes out of Rex's mouth and his loyalty is just that. I think he's sticking with what he has because he knows that the cupboard is bare. Any one who see Tebow throw know how atrocious he looks and the fact that Sanchez is guaranteed money for next season removes any incentive whatsoever from going to a QB change. If we had a decent backup, we'd probably do it but a shitty FB behind your incumbent who'll be on the team in 2013 regardless removes any reason for a QB switch. For all his loyalty, Rex never said a peep about pushing vets out of the door. Woody, Leonhard, J-Co, Richardson (who retired but said he'd come back if the Jets called), TJ, Jenkins etc etc. None of those guys got any special treatment from Rex... his loyalty is up there with his faith in Gholston.

I actually like Rex because I think he is cool even though he doesn't know when to stop running his mouth.

Id like to agree with you but Rex`s actions say different.If Rex doesn't have loyalty issues then the only other explanation is that he is a total dumb-ass or as others suggested maybe Shitchez has something on Rex.

I will give you a perfect example. The Packers vs. Giants game. The Packers were destroyed. Rodgers had a bad game except for one long bomb to Jordy Nelson(the only td the Packers scored). Rodgers was getting down the field but be was also screwing up a lot because of great coverage and him being hit and under tremendous pressure all night.

Probably some of the most pressure if not the most Ive ever seen Rodgers in all night. With that in mind Rodgers is one of the top 3 qbs in the league. He got benched with around 6 minutes left in the 4th quarter.

The benching was more for precautionary reasons than anything as we all know. The game was decided with no chance of a comeback. So why put Rodgers through anymore physical or mental stress,or chance of injury????? A common sense move. Whether the backup was shitty or good made no difference because it was still common sense to put him in.

Yet Sanchez is never benched for any reason no matter what the score. Whether Tebow or Mcelroy are both bad or one of them turns out good in games makes no difference at all in situations where the game is out of hand. Any intelligent good coach will put backups in out of hand games. It might be rare but even Tom Brady gets benched during some games when they are to far behind or real far ahead.Its well known by everyone that backup qbs get little to no snaps with the 1st team.Especially the third string qb.

Also some people dont want to here about Mcelroy. The man made it to the NFL and the Jets have kept him around so obviously they think he has something to offer.Also people knock his preseason games which I dont get. When he plays in the final preseason game he may not have been playing against the elite 1st teamers but he was playing against some 1st teamers and 2nd teamers,and mostly players that already made the team. By the last preseason game most of the scrubs are already gone from the team yet people delusionally act like the 4th game was like the 1st preseason game
Also there have been coaches that cut or at the least bench players mid season just for fumbling to much,playing bad,legal problems,causing problems with the team,etc. Rex does none of this.

So explain to me how this isn't loyalty.I dont care who the hell he puts behind center even if its the team janitor. When the game is out of hand most every team will bench their 1st string qb and any elite players. Rex doesn't.I dont know of any other team that refuses to follow this practice with their star players. Something is obviously wrong with this. Its either loyalty or something else.

The the coaching staff have an obligation to bench their top players in out of hand games. The fans want to see it and so should the coaches. How in the mother f*ck can the team ever find out what you have in your backups if you literally refuse to never put them on the field under any situation. Its sheer stupidity.

At this point it wouldn't surprise me if mark had a broken neck and was still starting. I just dont understand what is going on with this coaching staff.Bunch of f*cking morons if you ask me.

If Kaepernik was a backup here with the Jets he would never see the field yet in San Fran Aleez Smith loses his job even though he was having a pretty damn good year.

Our coaching staff and fo have some serious issues period.
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Posted 29 November 2012 - 07:35 PM

It would seem to me that if we have a top 10 pick, a pass rusher might be our most logical choice with the way this draft is shaping up to be. Jarvis Jones has some kind of medical ref flag, I think its a back condition or something. He is a awesome player though. Mingo doesn't have the sack production in college, but he has the looks of a edge rusher. Real explosive off the line, you can see the talent.


At QB, maybe the Jets can find a veteran QB to compete against Mark since they are pretty much stuck with Mark next season with his guaranteed salary. Trade Tebow somewhere. Alex Smith and Matt Flynn could be available.
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